
Shadowborn |

I watched the women's fencing competition last night, Shadowborn, and it was great! Dang those ladies were FAST! Go USA! I generally don't play fighters, but now I'm jonesing to take the swashbuckler prestige class! With extra potions of Haste!
I know what you mean. Those women are quick! I never realized that today's fencing gear was so bulky though. I watched them come out for the match and said "Wow, they're a lot chunkier than I'd expected..." Then I saw them interviewed after the gold medal match was over and realized that most of it was padding/sensors.
Your fighter will seem a lot better though...all the speed with a lot more swash and buckle.

avidreader514 |

I'm watching the Canadians break all kinds of personal and Olympic records every time they take to the pool and still come up short...darn you, mutant Phelps!
My kids are getting a big kick out of watching track and rowing. They're just starting to understand the concept of racing and like getting excited about crossing the finish line.

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I'm watching the Canadians break all kinds of personal and Olympic records every time they take to the pool and still come up short...darn you, mutant Phelps!
I kept wondering why the media was treating the guy like some kind of rockstar...okay I get it, he's a great swimmer, blah blah blah...
Then I saw him swim last night. Ye gawds, the man is some sort of human-dolphin crossbreed! He beat the rest of the field by two body-lengths!

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avidreader514 wrote:I'm watching the Canadians break all kinds of personal and Olympic records every time they take to the pool and still come up short...darn you, mutant Phelps!
I kept wondering why the media was treating the guy like some kind of rockstar...okay I get it, he's a great swimmer, blah blah blah...
Then I saw him swim last night. Ye gawds, the man is some sort of human-dolphin crossbreed! He beat the rest of the field by two body-lengths!
Phelps is pretty amazing, he dominates most of the races he's in. That team race where the U.S. just edged out France was awesome to watch.

Shadowborn |

My kids are getting a big kick out of watching track and rowing. They're just starting to understand the concept of racing and like getting excited about crossing the finish line.
Better nip that in the bud right now. If you allow them to gain the concept of winning and losing you're certain to cultivate low self-esteem when they don't finish first. Just let them play with the concept that it's all for fun and everybody wins no matter who crosses first...
*snort* BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Sorry, I couldn't keep that up with a straight face. I'd just make sure they also take note of good sportsmanship and comaraderie between atheletes.

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Here is, what I consider to be a pretty funny article about Men's Handball in the Olympics. Enjoy!

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I find it funny that the commentators are talking about China prmoting Harmony, and not mentioning it comes from the barrel of a gun over there.
They're promoting Harmony, they made no promises about acheiving it flower-child style. The Chinese have always had a thing for extremely paternalistic states. Then again if the United States were over 2500 years old, we might not be that much different.

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Wait until you get to the end :)
I know what you mean and I was floored. And I honestly think that we could not replicate that feat here in America. Culturally we're simply not that group-oriented. There's a lot that the Chinese government has to answer for, but I think that watching the Pagent was an extremely educational and thought-provoking experience. I was amused that the drummers were told to smile more so that thier sheer number (1500!) would be less intimidating.

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Zaister wrote:14 hours I think.That's impossible. Highest time difference you can have is 12 hours.
No - thats not quite right.
When it is noon for you, it could well be 2 in the morning somewhere else and while they are only 10 time zones away, they could be 14 hours ahead of you. Or 10 hours behind you, depending on perspective and location.

Joey Lafyatis |

Or 10 hours behind you, depending on perspective and location.
Exactly. It is considered 10 hours behind not 14 hours ahead. It is very technical, but it has to do with what day it is. For example. 2 in the morning here on Monday would be 4 in the afternoon on Sunday there (10 hours behind), not 4 in the afternoon Monday (14 hours ahead).
Trust me on this. Highest time difference is 12 hours. Such as Eastern America (New York) and China (Beijing)

Zaister |
Of course Beijing is 14 hours ahead of US Mountain Time, and not 10 hours back. When it is noon on a Monday in US Mountain Time, it is already early Tuesday morning in Beijing, so saying Beijing was "behind" is patently absurd.
Joey, your example is wrong. It is always later in China than in the US. Or the next day already.

BabbageUK |

I normally watch the Olympics but felt a bit disconnected with this one, don't know why. My wife has been watching it much more closely though, so I've felt a lot more connected recently.
Especially after what the newspapers here are calling the 'Great Haul of China' by the British athletes over the weekend. Wow. Simply amazing.
Congratulations to all athletes of all nationalities - just for being there!

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Looks like some people are trying to rain on Phelps' parade.
That article pisses me off.

BabbageUK |

Looks like some people are trying to rain on Phelps' parade.
That article pisses me off.
I'd like to know why it pisses you off. The article I read didn't say anything about it being easy, or simple - and even said he was an excellent athlete, the best swimmer ever, but was taking issue with the people describing him as the best "Olympian" ever.
It's far too early to be described as the best "Olympian" in my opinion. For anyone to achieve that accolade in my book they'd have to be competing and *winning* in a number of different pursuits, or to have consistently won the same event over many Olympics.
Feel free to disagree of course, even passionately, but your anger implies you've read something I haven't.

BabbageUK |

Okay, well fair enough. Our opinions differ. I agree that he is an excellent athlete, a superb swimmer - the world's best swimmer and 8 gold medals is a phenomenal achievement. No-one I know disagrees with any of that.
I hold 'greatest Olympian' to mean something other than you do, so that's where we diverge. I guess that's what makes things so difficult - the fact that one phrase can mean different things to different people, yet have no definitive conclusion.
That apart, I still say well done to all Olympians - even those that just turned up and went home on the next bus, so to speak. I couldn't have even got that far.

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Yay! The Canadians finally have some medals to show for themselves. Y'know, I bet we'd win more medals if more of the events were on ice. like the shotput, parallel bars or 100m dash. hell, we'd even win the triathalon if it was on ice. don't change anything else about the events. just put them on ice. or add in some highland games. sure we'd get silver after scotland, but noone else can come close in the "throwing a log" event, or "Bagpiping obstacle course".
also, congradulations once again to the Canadian olympic team. You guys rock at rowing. and apparently wrestling.

Bill Dunn |

The tone of the article suggests that he didn't do such a great thing, which he did. That's what makes me mad. So what if he got the medals as a swimmer instead of a runner? He still has achieved the greatest amount of gold medals, making him the greatest Olympian.
The tone of the article cheeses me off too. The writer deserves a kick in the junk for it.
That said, there's a bit too much hooplah right now about "greatest olympian". I can see a good argument arguing for a bit more longevity. But competing more broadly being a necessary component? I don't think so. The pace set in swimming is pretty grueling, condsidering they get it all done in the first 8 or 9 day pressure cooker. I'm willing to give Phelps the credit for doing that well.And I'm NOT willing to give the writer credit for emphasizing the difference between the long jump and sprinting. Carl Lewis was a fantastic athlete, but plenty of sprinters compete in the long jump and do well. It's Lewis's 4 games' performance that's the interesting point there, not that he competed in sprints and long jump.

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Okay, well fair enough. Our opinions differ. I agree that he is an excellent athlete, a superb swimmer - the world's best swimmer and 8 gold medals is a phenomenal achievement. No-one I know disagrees with any of that.
I hold 'greatest Olympian' to mean something other than you do, so that's where we diverge. I guess that's what makes things so difficult - the fact that one phrase can mean different things to different people, yet have no definitive conclusion.
I agree to disagree as long as you do :)

BabbageUK |

Agree to disagree? I'm not sure I can. This is an internet forum after all - we have to have a huge flame war and satisfy Godwins Law. It's traditional.
:)
Oh alright then. Let's start a tradition where that DOESN'T happen. :)

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Agree to disagree? I'm not sure I can. This is an internet forum after all - we have to have a huge flame war and satisfy Godwins Law. It's traditional.
:)
Oh alright then. Let's start a tradition where that DOESN'T happen. :)
Damn it! I paid good moeny for ringside seats!
Throws down popcorn

Shadowborn |

Like the wrestler who threw his medal on the ground and stormed off the podium because he only won Bronze?
Well, there are going to be exceptions to the rule. I like that since he threw a tantrum about it, the committee took it from him. Now he doesn't have to be content with the lousy bronze.
Worse still is the Jamaican runner who started trashing his opponents with gestures while he was still 15 meters away from the finish line. That was just uncalled for. It would have been poetic justice if one of them had managed to put on a burst of speed and beat him while he was showboating.

veector |

Thunderbolt Kid wrote:Watching the Olympics, Everyone?Lord, no. I dread this every four years...
The audacity of the media to assume that "we" care so much about the Olympics that they cover it non-stop for three weeks is mind-boggling.
I'm with ya Lee! STOP TAKING AWAY MY STORIES FOR A MONTH!

veector |

Cuchulainn wrote:Phelps is pretty amazing, he dominates most of the races he's in. That team race where the U.S. just edged out France was awesome to watch.avidreader514 wrote:I'm watching the Canadians break all kinds of personal and Olympic records every time they take to the pool and still come up short...darn you, mutant Phelps!
I kept wondering why the media was treating the guy like some kind of rockstar...okay I get it, he's a great swimmer, blah blah blah...
Then I saw him swim last night. Ye gawds, the man is some sort of human-dolphin crossbreed! He beat the rest of the field by two body-lengths!
I think he's been genetically engineered by the USA to have extra large hands and feet. That's what the media says anyways. The hands and feet I mean.

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There's a new editorial that points out that if you look at medals that are awarded by an objective standard, i.e. you cross the finish line first, score more points, etc., rather than a subjective standard, i.e. the judges award points based on how well they like what you did, then the U.S. is doing much better in the gold chase compared to China than it would seem. It also asks some questions about the judges and some of the questionable calls they have made lately.