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RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

With a little inspiration from the dmtools chatroom, I came up with this:

The Tarrasque MTG Card.

It's for a card creation contest at another forum, but I thought I'd share.

(Last week, I posted a card vaguely in homage to our favorite lawyer: Sebastian)


Ross Byers wrote:
(Last week, I posted a card vaguely in homage to our favorite lawyer: Sebastian)

White? srsly?

Do me. Do me.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Ross, I don't think I've ever seen that kind of split green-black symbol in the casting cost.

Does it mean "three points of either black or green mana, and then 4 other" or "three points of mana froma source that could produce both black and green, and then 4 other"?

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Hybrid mana costs were introduced about two years ago.

B/G means 'one black or green mana'. So you could pay:
GGG4
BGG4
BBG4
GGG4
for the Tarrasque.

I made it a hybrid card because that was the requirement for the round. That said, the Tarrasque makes pretty good sense as a Black/Green card.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

CourtFool wrote:
White? srsly?

I needed a name for an Inquisitor. It seemed appropriate.

CourtFoo wrote:
Do me. Do me.

I just whipped this up: No art, though.

The Exchange

Ross Byers wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
White? srsly?

I needed a name for an Inquisitor. It seemed appropriate.

CourtFoo wrote:
Do me. Do me.
I just whipped this up: No art, though.

Do you have a program to slap cards together that quick or just experience at a drawing program?

BTW- Sebastian is the white cleric?!?! I am so sad.....

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I use Magic Set Editor. It really is a great program.


Ross Byers wrote:
I just whipped this up: No art, though.

Thanks. Hmmm, a 2/2 for only RR? I am cheap. I would be great for a red weenie deck.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

How dare you bastards question my devotion and faith to Ponythulu...I mean...Daisy, Goddess of Ponies and Sunshine...oh yes...sunshine...

Edit: Ross, I had to show my wife that card. She shook her head and said something like "I thought you were a nice guy..."

Mha ha ha!


Ooh ooh! Pick me, pick me! :D

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Lilith wrote:
Ooh ooh! Pick me, pick me! :D

Try this

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Holy cow, Ross; the Lilith card is undercosted! There are all manner of evil things that card can do.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Chris Mortika wrote:
Holy cow, Ross; the Lilith card is undercosted! There are all manner of evil things that card can do.

None of them are worse than what Dragon Blood can do.


Chris Mortika wrote:
Holy cow, Ross; the Lilith card is undercosted! There are all manner of evil things that card can do.

Heh heh heh... >:)


I demand a card.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Ross Byers wrote:
None of them are worse than what Dragon Blood can do.

Thanks for the link. Dragon Blood's boost costs mana. Lilith, Cookiebringer can pile on the +1/+1 counters as long as something on the board can untap her. She can do so even when your land is tapped out.

She can do so on herself, on her first turn out.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Chris Mortika wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
None of them are worse than what Dragon Blood can do.

Thanks for the link. Dragon Blood's boost costs mana. Lilith, Cookiebringer can pile on the +1/+1 counters as long as something on the board can untap her. She can do so even when your land is tapped out.

She can do so on herself, on her first turn out.

Neh. I'd almost say the card is underpowered. The ability to give out +1/+1 counters is not that exciting. If you haven't followed magic for the past few years, I'd take a look at the recent sets to get an idea of the power curve. The Lilith card is well within it (it'd be a bomb in limited, but no one would ever play it in constructed).

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Chris Mortika wrote:


Thanks for the link. Dragon Blood's boost costs mana. Lilith, Cookiebringer can pile on the +1/+1 counters as long as something on the board can untap her. She can do so even when your land is tapped out.

If you can afford to untap her repeatedly after playing a creature, you deserve the bonus. The fact that she can only pump new creatures is a rather severe limitation.

Chris Mortika wrote:
She can do so on herself, on her first turn out.

No, she can't, unless she gains Haste somehow. Summoning sickness.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Ross Byers wrote:


No, she can't, unless she gains Haste somehow. Summoning sickness.

It's been too many years since I've played Magic. I knew that creatures couldn't attack on their first round; I didn't realize that they couldn't be tapped.

(I could have sworn that "Forest, tap Forest for Elf, tap Elf..." was a standard opening maneuver... Maybe it's a change in the rules over the years.)

Liberty's Edge

In response to someone's question:

The friggin' split lands are from one of the friggin' new sets (which suck, by the way. 4e and MtG are growing horribly close together). The reason I don't know any of the new sets is the fact that I stopped buying after Scourge, and stopped playing after Kamigawa (I started with Ice Age). Young whippersnappers! (Aw, who am I kidding...)

I wish I could be as cool as Sebastian or Lilith...

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Runelord of Greed wrote:
I demand a card.

They already made one: Aurification.

I thought a spell that turns things to gold was appropriate.

Liberty's Edge

Chris Mortika wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:


No, she can't, unless she gains Haste somehow. Summoning sickness.

It's been too many years since I've played Magic. I knew that creatures couldn't attack on their first round; I didn't realize that they couldn't be tapped.

(I could have sworn that "Forest, tap Forest for Elf, tap Elf..." was a standard opening maneuver... Maybe it's a change in the rules over the years.)

From what I understand, the rules/power curve is an exponential one. Don't get me started on the "New Magic". It's like the New Math, except more confusing.

"Base 8 is just like base 10, really. If you're missing two fingers."
- Tom Lehrer, "The New Math"

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

In response to someone's question:

The friggin' split lands are from one of the friggin' new sets (which suck, by the way. 4e and MtG are growing horribly close together). The reason I don't know any of the new sets is the fact that I stopped buying after Scourge, and stopped playing after Kamigawa (I started with Ice Age). Young whippersnappers! (Aw, who am I kidding...)

Do you mean the Hybrid mana symbols? They were introduced nearly three years ago in Ravnica block, right after Kamigawa, actually. (Ravnica is also one of the most popular and well designed magic blocks of all time.)

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
I wish I could be as cool as Sebastian or Lilith...

I'll try to make a card for you when I get home.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
From what I understand, the rules/power curve is an exponential one. Don't get me started on the "New Magic". It's like the New Math, except more confusing.

The rules curve is expoential: Each card can interact with every other card, so the complexity of the rules is (Number of cards)^2.

The power curve is a bell curve, that is some cards suck, some are broken, and most are average. The middle of the curve has been goosed recently...by a lot. It may ebb back down in the future, though. For instance, Mirrodin block had a ridiculous high power level, while Kamigawa block was below average.

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

"Base 8 is just like base 10, really. If you're missing two fingers."

- Tom Lehrer, "The New Math"

Tom Lehrer is awesome.


Ross Byers wrote:
Runelord of Greed wrote:
I demand a card.

They already made one: Aurification.

I thought a spell that turns things to gold was appropriate.

I approve.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Ross Byers wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
From what I understand, the rules/power curve is an exponential one. Don't get me started on the "New Magic". It's like the New Math, except more confusing.

The rules curve is expoential: Each card can interact with every other card, so the complexity of the rules is (Number of cards)^2.

The power curve is a bell curve, that is some cards suck, some are broken, and most are average. The middle of the curve has been goosed recently...by a lot. It may ebb back down in the future, though. For instance, Mirrodin block had a ridiculous high power level, while Kamigawa block was below average.

Agreed. Plus, multi-colored cards have also been goosed up as compared to mono-color cards. Just by virtue of Lilith costing both white and green mana, you've got more room to make her more powerful. And as a legend, you get even more room to increase her power.

Liberty's Edge

Ross Byers wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

In response to someone's question:

The friggin' split lands are from one of the friggin' new sets (which suck, by the way. 4e and MtG are growing horribly close together). The reason I don't know any of the new sets is the fact that I stopped buying after Scourge, and stopped playing after Kamigawa (I started with Ice Age). Young whippersnappers! (Aw, who am I kidding...)

Do you mean the Hybrid mana symbols? They were introduced nearly three years ago in Ravnica block, right after Kamigawa, actually. (Ravnica is also one of the most popular and well designed magic blocks of all time.)

Looks like I quit at the wrong time...

And yeah, I still think of Odyssey block as "new". I'm out of touch.

Ross Byers wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
I wish I could be as cool as Sebastian or Lilith...
I'll try to make a card for you when I get home.

Cool!

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
And yeah, I still think of Odyssey block as "new". I'm out of touch.

I started playing in Mirrodin (Darksteel, specifically.) Took me way too long to realize Shatter isn't actually a good card.

And Odyssey cycles out of Extended this fall.


This is some great stuff! You should do all of the regulars!

And I still play, though I started with Ice Age and took time off for Tempest and Urza blocks (the wrong time, I know). Sebastian's right about the changes in power levels.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Shiny, ask and you shall receive:
Shiny, Eldritch Master

Also, I found this one in an old file, and while it's not exactly purpose made, I'll post it for Gary. The Great Eye

Liberty's Edge

Ross Byers wrote:

Shiny, ask and you shall receive:

Shiny, Eldritch Master

Ha! Nice!

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Ross Byers wrote:


Also, I found this one in an old file, and while it's not exactly purpose made, I'll post it for Gary. The Great Eye

You do realize that like 5% of the posters here will understand what that card does, right? ;-)


Sebastian wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:


Also, I found this one in an old file, and while it's not exactly purpose made, I'll post it for Gary. The Great Eye
You do realize that like 5% of the posters here will understand what that card does, right? ;-)

Less. I'll have to go look at the Future Sight notes for fateseal. Didn't care for the set enough to understand most of the mechanics.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Sebastian wrote:
You do realize that like 5% of the posters here will understand what that card does, right? ;-)

You're being generous. I'll decode it: Fateseal was called 'evil scry' in development. It means do the same thing as scry, but to your opponent's deck instead.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Ross Byers wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
You do realize that like 5% of the posters here will understand what that card does, right? ;-)
You're being generous. I'll decode it: Fateseal was called 'evil scry' in development. It means do the same thing as scry, but to your opponent's deck instead.

I'm not sure if scry is common knowledge either. Or flash for that matter. :-D


Flash will be understandable if you explain it. Scry will be a tad more difficult. At least flash means "play this anytime you could play an instant", which is an old ability.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Sebastian wrote:
I'm not sure if scry is common knowledge either. Or flash for that matter. :-D

Scry is 4 years old.

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Ross Byers wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
I'm not sure if scry is common knowledge either. Or flash for that matter. :-D
Scry is 4 years old.

Yeah, but it's from the third set in a block and then came back briefly in the last set of Time Spiral. My experience with lapsed magic players is that they know the core mechanics from the late 90s, possibly things like flanking or phasing, and thereafter, their knowledge gets very spotty.*

Heck, to be honest, I am not 100% certain I know what scry does. You look at the top x cards and can put them on the bottom of your library right? Do you get to rearrange them if you put them on top?

*Though oddly, they always proclaim to understand banding, but are never able to answer questions correctly proving that fact.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Lilith's card got art!


Ross Byers wrote:
Lilith's card got art!

Yay! I has ur cookies! :D

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Scry wrote:

501.8a To "scry N" means to look at the top N cards of your library, put any number of them on the bottom of your library in any order, and put the rest on top of your library in any order.

Fateseal wrote:
501.9a To "fateseal N" means to look at the top N cards of an opponent's library, put any number of them on the bottom of that library in any order, and put the rest on top of that library in any order.


Congrats, you wandered into the Comprehensive Rules. Don't you have something better to do, like say make more of those wonderful cards?

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Lathiira wrote:
Congrats, you wandered into the Comprehensive Rules.

DCI Certified Rules Advisor since 2007.

Lathiira wrote:
Don't you have something better to do, like say make more of those wonderful cards?

Who's next?


Ooh, pick me!

And my condolences for being a Certified Rules Advisor. Unless you like explaining rules to people who should know them better?

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Lathiira wrote:
Ooh, pick me!

Ask and ye shall receive.

Lathiira wrote:
And my condolences for being a Certified Rules Advisor. Unless you like explaining rules to people who should know them better?

As long as I know what I should.


Ross Byers wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
Ooh, pick me!

Ask and ye shall receive.

Lathiira wrote:
And my condolences for being a Certified Rules Advisor. Unless you like explaining rules to people who should know them better?
As long as I know what I should.

Ooh, thanks! Come to think of it, where's yours?

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Lathiira wrote:
Ooh, thanks! Come to think of it, where's yours?

Here!

Those aren't my colors, but they are the colors of my favorite Kamigawa block deck.

Also, yeah. Planeswalkers. They're a bit weird.

Dark Archive

yeah do a Ross Card...and me!

The Exchange

I could use a card of me.

I played Magic when it first came out and still have all my original cards. I quit after a couple of years but I love going through the cards sometimes. I keep thinking of selling them but I can't bring myself to do it, it's around 500 cards of goodness that I can't get rid of.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Fake Healer wrote:
I could use a card of me.

How does False Cure suit you?

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