I like the Dragon and Dungeon .pdf format. It fits my screen.


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Liberty's Edge

Okay. I'm still not planning on going 4e. But I have to say that I really like the way WotC has formatted its .pdfs for Dragon and Dungeon e-zines. Easy to read on my computer screen - no need to scroll up and down a page - it's all there.

WotC did something right here.

I know I'll be a minority with this next statement, but I'd like to see Paizo take a similar approach with its .pdfs. Granted, the problem is that Paizo's .pdfs are replicas of its hardbounds.

But as a twist, the way the Star Wars Saga Edition books are crafted, if Paizo eventually went to that size and style, .pdf replicas would fit the computer screen perfectly.

Just thought I'd throw this out there.

Sovereign Court

Saurstalk wrote:

Okay. I'm still not planning on going 4e. But I have to say that I really like the way WotC has formatted its .pdfs for Dragon and Dungeon e-zines. Easy to read on my computer screen - no need to scroll up and down a page - it's all there.

WotC did something right here.

I know I'll be a minority with this next statement, but I'd like to see Paizo take a similar approach with its .pdfs. Granted, the problem is that Paizo's .pdfs are replicas of its hardbounds.

But as a twist, the way the Star Wars Saga Edition books are crafted, if Paizo eventually went to that size and style, .pdf replicas would fit the computer screen perfectly.

Just thought I'd throw this out there.

Gotta agree, that's one advantage of online delivery I've seen WOTC capitalize on.

It's also made me wish to see other pdf products formatted in that way, so you're not the only one, but I really don't see it happening with Paizo. It's too much to ask to have a landscape format for pdf but keep the hardcopies in standard format.

And besides, the point is moot for me; I ultimately prefer having the actual book in my grubby little hands!


I can't STAND reading pdfs. I hate them with a passion, though they are sometimes useful so a necessary evil.

The widescreen, landscaped format, though, is very easy to read. I've found myself actually forgetting that I'm reading a pdf, which never happened before. This is, of course, balanced by the fact that they no longer will look right if printed. I'm not sure where I stand on that.

Best case scenario would be they do double the work and make a landscaped version for me to read on my computer and a portrait version for me to print from. That would be amazing. No chance in Hell, but it would be amazing.


I really like the landscape format too, its much easier to read on my computer screen. Since the articles are released in manageable chunks, I find myself reading them in-depth instead of skimming them, like I did for the last couple of 3.5e releases.


I spend at least 3 hours a day, during the work week, reading PDFs. Things like the amount of content, page layout, font size, etc are certainly nice. I tend to read PDFs on a several different PCs, some that can support 1600 x 1200 display, others at 800 x 480 (!).

The biggest things for me are full support for searching, accurate page numbers (i.e. PDF doesn't begin on page 0) and bookmarks/indexing. After I've read through the content once, the PDF becomes more of a reference tool and less a book.

The other thing that bugs me is a PDF with composite art (B&W, Line, Color, etc) with a resolution of less than 300 DPI, but I can understand how that kind of thing is a luxury (file size, etc.)

I'd also like to mention that PDFs and Online Delivery are the shape of things to come. Paper and transport/mailing prices are only going up.

Liberty's Edge

I like it too. Does anyone know if you can download the entire magazine yet? Or is it article-by-article?


Its article by article until the end of the month.


I don't like it.

Most use of these articles will be at a table, reading from paper copies. The format is great for your screen, but not useful when most will actually need it to be useful.

IMO :)

Liberty's Edge

Depends on if you become accustomed to using a laptop at gaming. While I'm still a paper and book fiend, I keep all my character sheets in .wpd and .doc form on my laptop. So, currently, I print before I play. But it's not necessary.

Liberty's Edge

Right, using my Mac at the table is old hat for me, since I'm big on media presentations for the players. I used to play with a group at the Ft Wainwright hospital and we used the Proxima to display the map on the table; I used the laptop for mood music, to show pictures, etc.


I like it cause it both fits my screen and has worthwhile content.

Scarab Sages

Tatterdemalion wrote:

I don't like it.

Most use of these articles will be at a table, reading from paper copies. The format is great for your screen, but not useful when most will actually need it to be useful.

IMO :)

I actually did like it, but I agree with you that it doesn't work for paper. Maybe if you could switch between the two formats.....


Actually I like the way it looks on paper too. My question would be why not make the char sheets landscape, it seems a lot more readable and you can fit more of the important info across the top where it is easy to get to.

Hell, I'll do it now.


drjones wrote:
Hell, I'll do it now.

And, if you could find a way to post said character sheets, that'd be spiffy.

I'm not fond of the current WotC sheets...


Before I made a fool of myself I checked the enworld homebrew board and I was not disappointed:

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=229026 looks pretty damn good.

Sovereign Court Contributor

drjones wrote:

Before I made a fool of myself I checked the enworld homebrew board and I was not disappointed:

Linked for you! looks pretty damn good.

Dark Archive

I like it a lot. And it prints out fine, it's just the standard 8.5 x 11 in landscape.

Wotc would have saved themselves a lot of grief if they had just come out with this format to begin with.


Holy crap jones! That sheet is be-yoot-tea-full! Muchos thanks for posting it!

(If you hadn't realized, I REALLY like this sheet!)

Cheers! :)


re: Character sheets.

Thanks muchly. Those are excellent. Kudos to the creator.

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