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Is Gorum, CN god of weapons and battle really in the same class as Lamashtu and Rovagug? Is this a holdover from the wars with the Shoanti? Did Torag's (LN god of the forge, &c.) clerics pay somebody off? Or did you guys just mean Norgorber? I find the idea of the god of secrets and murder maintaining a shrine down at the Pantheistic Hall a little hard to believe.
Maybe they don't want some guys running around telling everyone that being armed is cool and that the best way to solve a dispute is to get bloody over it.
Maybe they don't want some guys running around telling everyone that being armed is cool and that the best way to solve a dispute is to get bloody over it.You make them sound like the NRA...
Well, he's CN and god of strength, battle, and weapons, with domains chaos, destruction, glory, strength, war. Not exactly the role model for small children in a city.
Having a goddess that tells you to sleep around and always get back at people and have no scruples in general might be not so thrilling, but those things don't disrupt city life and business in general.
But a harmless tavern brawl turning into a massacre, that's not someone you want, it's bad for tourism. Have half a dozen of those and it will all over the Pathfinder Travel Companions.
Maybe he's more the god of savage barbarian dudes up in the Holds of the Linnorm Kings and Mammoth Lords? A chaotic god of war probably doesn't have much staying power in a city as lawful as Korvosa. I would see Gorum's faithful--along with the congregations of Rovagug and Lamashtu--as WAY too disruptive for a city. The followers of more shady evil powers (like Norgorber, Zon-Kuthon, and Urgathoa) are probably able to blend in with the populace and hide in the dark places in the city's underbelly. I just don't see priests of the war god staying idle in a city where war really isn't the focus, much in the same way I don't see monstrous priests of Lamashtu and destruction-obsessed priests of Rovagug fitting in.
lol hey now, an armed society is a polite society :)Maybe they don't want some guys running around telling everyone that being armed is cool and that the best way to solve a dispute is to get bloody over it.You make them sound like the NRA...
"Shut your ugly face up or I blow it away with my 10gauge!"
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"Shut your ugly face up or I blow it away with my 10gauge!"
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Xandar, elven adventurer and aspiring diplomat:
"If all you've got's a 10-gauge, I'll say whatever I f****** want."
(reaches into his coat, pretending that he has some sort of weapon there)
Having a goddess that tells you to sleep around and always get back at people and have no scruples in general might be not so thrilling, but those things don't disrupt city life and business in general.I'd love to have such a godesss.. can I be one of her Chosen? :P
Go and ask her. Her name's Calistria.
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Maybe they don't want some guys running around telling everyone that being armed is cool and that the best way to solve a dispute is to get bloody over it.You make them sound like the NRA...Well, he's CN and god of strength, battle, and weapons, with domains chaos, destruction, glory, strength, war. Not exactly the role model for small children in a city.
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Right, but the text that excludes him would seem to imply that Norgorber, god of greed, secrets, poison and murder is just fine and might even keep a shrine down at the local pantheistic church. I can see the LN(E) society being OK with Asmodeus especially since they're Chelaxian. Zon-Kuthon I can see being tolerated since envy, pain, darkness, and loss are all things people might make offerings to avert or mitigate. For the same reason, Urgathoa, the NE god gluttony, disease and undeath might just be barely acceptable. The last two mostly because of plot points involving them; you may have to or want to offer the goody-goody types a morally acceptable reason to not go berserk at the Asmodeus influences that are so distinctly Korvosan by presenting them with less insidious and more agressive evils.
There are two other reasons that argue against Norgorber being tolerated. First, in a place like Korvosa, you woud expect there are strong forces that want to make darn sure that secrets, poison, and murder are the exclusive perogatives of the State. Second, keeping an open shrine to a god of secrets makes no sense. I don't doubt that Father Skinsaw has a cell of cultists in town, and we hear little about it because most of the customers have already been there, but why would they ever keep a public presence? Anyone going near it would be automatically suspected of: paying blackmail (and therefore being guilty of something worth paying hush money to keep quiet), offering blackmail material on others for sale(and therefore being worth following, robbing, kidnapping or murdering for what you know), trying to procure poison, or maybe looking to commission a murder for hire.
It might be another story if it was St. Gorum of the Shoanti, but so far, the Shoanti have been made to sound more like animists. I suppose Gorum would be popular with them, but so would Erastil, Gozreh, and Desna.
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Remember where this is coming from. Korvosa has had about 300 years of friction and conflict with the Shoanti, after the city founders basically invaded Shoanti land and forced them up into the Cinderlands. That, plus the fact that Korvosa's socitety is less tolerant of chaos than it is of evil pretty much means that worship of a "barbaric god" like Gorum is frowned upon by the city. Doesn't mean there are NO worshipers of Gorum in Korvosa, but it does mean that they're quiet about their worship.
Right, but the text that excludes him would seem to imply that Norgorber, god of greed, secrets, poison and murder is just fine and might even keep a shrine down at the local pantheistic church.
I know. It's because greed is the way of life for many merchants (and you need them to make a city work), secrets are for everyone, and the thing about poison and murder is that it doesn't disrupt city life at large. Some nice poisoning and backstabbing is unlikely to spill out on the street and thousands of innocent bystanders get poisoned or backstabbed by poison bottles or stillettos flying wild.
Second, keeping an open shrine to a god of secrets makes no sense.
You think that's his real shrine? It already worked!