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Nero24200 wrote:


And quite frankly those would be the silliest runelords I've ever seen.

I beg to differ.

Because of your insolence, my giant, eight-legged tarrasques with oversized teeth will hunt you.

What? There's only one Tarrasque?

That was before I cloned it.


Paul Watson wrote:


Comprende. Although given the wealth of the Catholic Church, it does strike me as a little hypocritical that he can complain about other people's wealth. Alternatively, the Pope's going to Hell for breaking his own mortal sin which would be deliciously ironic. ;-)

Maybe he's got a note from his boss.


Epic Meepo wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
The 7 deadly Sins are classifications of Venial and Mortal Sins, like the topics in JEOPARDY!

I'll take Lust for 1000.

(And hopefully it's a Daily Double.)

This is the sin of getting aroused at the sight of roleplaying game core rulebooks that are 500 pages or thicker.


snobi wrote:


I don't believe being attracted to people under age X is any more of a sin than being attracted to people over age X.

Oh, yes, yes it is.

X shouldn't be a line in the sand (but then again, so little should be), but being attracted to small children definetly is infinitely worse than being attracted to adults.


Whimsy Chris wrote:
Okay, I'm going to address the elephant in the room...that is the Runelord of Social Injustice. We all know half-orcs get paid less for doing the same work as a human

Yes. We all know, and approve.

Whimsy Chris wrote:


and the vertically challenged (dwarves) are forced to live in the underground ghettos.

Forced?

No one is forced to do anything - you can see that by the fact that no dwarves are foced to clean sewers with their beards.

Whimsy Chris wrote:


Halflings constantly complain about being called what their name implies: That they are half a thing.

Yeah. Unlike humans, they're only half mad.

Whimsy Chris wrote:


I see this as something the PCs (or the Politically Correct) will have to stop once and for all.

I hate political correctness. I want it shot. I want it short in the arse.

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Reckless wrote:
Epic Meepo wrote:
Jared Ouimette wrote:
The 7 deadly Sins are classifications of Venial and Mortal Sins, like the topics in JEOPARDY!

I'll take Lust for 1000.

(And hopefully it's a Video Daily Double.)

fixed that for you.

You can keep your video. I'm all about doin' stuff in real life. ;P

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KnightErrantJR wrote:

The original story from Fox News really contorted itself to make this look like something that it was not. This was from a discussion that Pope Benedict had with the bishops about how there is a lack of a sense of sin when doing things that are "modern," that were not thought of in previous ages.

The sins that were called out aren't "new," but they are sins that many Catholics do not consider to be sins, which the Vatican does.

The Seven Deadly sins have never been a dogmatic part of the church that delineated what was and wasn't a mortal sin. They were a popular shorthand of their day used as a spiritual teaching tool. It was no more Church canon than Dante's Inferno or Paradise Lost.

Pope Benedict isn't "creating" new sins, so much as elaborating that, according to the Church, these things are considered sins.

Fox News excerpted the original article, which also was not originally in English, and put their own spin on it, trying to make it look like the Pope is creating Church doctrine when he was discussing the modern condition.

I respect that many of you don't agree with the Church on this, nor do you agree to their authority, and that you have other beliefs. I'm actually glad to hear dissenting opinions on matters like this, to know what other people are thinking. On the other hand, there is a line between disagreeing with something, and even having reasons for it, and actively denigrating it. I would respectfully ask that you try to keep in mind that for some people, this relates to their own personal beliefs.

Well said, it's amazing how a story can be taken and spun into something ridiculous by the media.


"The new deadly sins include polluting, genetic engineering, being obscenely rich, drug dealing, abortion, pedophilia and causing social injustice."

I agree that something the Pope says in a conversation is NOT the same as Church Cannon.

I begin to believe that -anything- a FOX News anchor says is NOT the same as the truth.

But even if it were...

Polluting: Ok, I can understand that this is a bad thing, in our current situation. But at what scale? Is throwing an apple core out the window "polluting"? Id say no, because its bio-degradable. What about throwing a plastic bottle out the window? Id say yes. But what about throwing a plastic bottle away in a trash can? While it isnt the same as dumping toxic chemicals into the water or burning huge mountains of coal or releasing flourocarbon emissions....that plastic bottle still ends up somewhere. Most likely in a landfill. So, is that "pollution"? If so, then what are we do do? Stop using anything plastic, ever?

Genetic Engineering: Ok here I have HUGE problems. About a quarter of the world's population goes to bed hungry EVERY DAY. People starve to death. And so far the BEST way to combat this is through genetic engineering. Despite what the whackadoos will have you believe, there is nothing "wrong" about genetically engineered grains. Humans have been enaging in genetic manipulation of animals and plants for millennia. Weve just had to do it the slow, inefficient way of using selective breeding, until recently. Now we can directly manipulate the genetic codes of plants to make them hardier, able to grow in areas where they wouldnt grow before. And what do we get? Ignorant people screaming about "Frankenfoods" and scaring the governments of third world nations through lies and misinformation, so much so that tons and tons of genetically engineered grains, which would feed the hungry and the poor, are quarantined and left to rot on the docks. And people die from hunger with their salvation in sight.

Which is the bigger sin? The creation of genetically manipulated food? Or the refusal to distribute that food, which results in hundreds of thousands of deaths?

Being obscenely rich: Pope Pot? Its Cardinal Kettle for you on line 2. The Catholic Church is one of the wealthiest institutions in the world, and it has gotten there by taking money from its "flock". Many of whom are poor and can ill afford it. Generousity is a virtue, I agree. But Pope Benedict has a lot of nerve on this one.

Drug dealing: In the context of illegal, harmful drugs, I have no problem with this one.

Abortion: I guess this one depends on where you fall on the issue. If you truly believe that life begins the minute the egg is fertilized, then I can see how aborting that egg would be a sin. But thats because its -already- a sin to take a life. So this is an unneccessary addition. However, that means that you also have to decide how you feel about the medical fact that one third of all pregnancies spontaneously self-abort.

If you believe that "life" begins with the first heart-beat, then to you, aborting before the heart is formed would not be a "sin". Likewise if your metric is the first brainwave. The idea that a child is "alive" the moment the egg is fertilized is a fairly recent one, especially for the Catholic Church, which used to hold that a child was not "alive" until it took its first breath. So this one seems mostly motivated by politics, to me.

Pedophilia: The definition of the "appropriate" age has changed over the years. But Ill agree with the basic idea that if youre forcing yourself on someone else, -especially- someone who is too young to understand what youre doing, then you should probably take a pitchfork in the backside and roast for a few millennia.

Causing social injustice: Like stockpiling billions of dollars of treasure in your vaults, purchased with the money that the faithful gave to help the poor? Like supporting the practice of slavery? Like telling people that condoms are sinful, and thus contributing to the spread of AIDS? Like denying the Holocaust? Like hunting down and executing people for the "crime" of disagreeing with you over what kind of invisible man lives in the sky, and calling these things "Crusades" and "Inquisitions"? Like promoting a culture of shame and self-loathing and claiming that only through YOU can people be saved from an eternity of suffering after they die?

Yeah, soemone needs to stop that kind of thing from happening. Right now.

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