You're reading way more into this than you should. I suspect that the designers call it 4.0 because it fits in the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 progression and for no other reason.I frankly wouldn't be surprised at all if the books don't even say "fourth edition" anywhere on them. I suspect very shortly WotC will refer to the game as "Dungeons & Dragons," without any sort of number qualifier whatsoever.
They almost seem to be behind schedule on 4.0. I do not think they even have the time to worry about later editions or iterations of the rules right now.
Since I word in a software company I tend to agree with Erik, Everything gets a .0 attached to it because when you talk about stuff versions like this it happens. So I don't think they are planning on a 4.5 anytime soon.
Can I also agree with Erik? 'Cause man I love doing things like that.
Seriously though, yes I agree.Edit: Yeah! new page!
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You're reading way more into this than you should. I suspect that the designers call it 4.0 because it fits in the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 progression and for no other reason.
I frankly wouldn't be surprised at all if the books don't even say "fourth edition" anywhere on them. I suspect very shortly WotC will refer to the game as "Dungeons & Dragons," without any sort of number qualifier whatsoever.
They almost seem to be behind schedule on 4.0. I do not think they even have the time to worry about later editions or iterations of the rules right now.
Oh no! They got to Erik!!! Quick, anyone have any extra tinfoil? I don't think my hat is thick enough!!!
Oh no! They got to Erik!!! Quick, anyone have any extra tinfoil? I don't think my hat is thick enough!!!
LOL, nice.
Heck, my friend's daughter named her new kitten Mittens 2.0 after their older cat.
LOL, doubly nice.
Oh no! They got to Erik!!! Quick, anyone have any extra tinfoil? I don't think my hat is thick enough!!!You're reading way more into this than you should. I suspect that the designers call it 4.0 because it fits in the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 progression and for no other reason.
I frankly wouldn't be surprised at all if the books don't even say "fourth edition" anywhere on them. I suspect very shortly WotC will refer to the game as "Dungeons & Dragons," without any sort of number qualifier whatsoever.
They almost seem to be behind schedule on 4.0. I do not think they even have the time to worry about later editions or iterations of the rules right now.
You better be careful Sebastian. We might start thinking you have a sense of hunour.
:P
Wow. Wheeties taste odd this morning?
The people here on both sides of the 4E debate try to keep it civil. Please tone it down some. These boards are largely self-moded. We'd like to not have Paizo mod it for us.
I think we should ban CourtFool. He is just askin’ for it. Look at how he is dressed.
I'm so fatigued by this ongoing debate over 4th, I'm not entirely sure why I'm posting. I don't want to convert any body to my way of thinking. I don't want to tell people they're wrong for their decisions about 4th edition or 3rd edition. I don't want to argue the finer points of game design or why one system is better than another. I definitely don't want to insult anybody, nor do I want to be insulted by anyone.
I will say that the OP is probably right (though whether it will be called 4.5 is up in the air), and that it really doesn't matter. Wizards will eventually have to revise, or come out with a new edition. I understand why the grognards are posting as they do, I am a grognard. A thick beard if you will. And no, I'm not happy with the fluff changes, but to each his own. I'm sure individuals on the boards here wouldn't like some of the house rules that I, or people I play with use.
Most "grognards" beef is with the killing of the sacred cows, or what appears to be "video-gamy" conventions. Many of us would probably welcome many of the new mechanic changes. But WotC PR for 4th Edition has been lacking, and some what insulting in the past. Now anything that could be taken as a slight, whether it really is or not, becomes one.
I'm interested in 4th edition. I want 4th edition to be successful, for the good of the game. I don't intend to use 4th edition, though I've stated in the past if Paizo switches I may consider picking up the bare minimum to run their products. My concern about 4th edition, ultimately is whether or not those companies, whose products I greatly enjoy, will continue on in some capacity.
I will say, I'm tired of the lashings that both sides have been giving each other. Not one side is killing the game. There is room enough for both views, and remarkably enough many more than that when it comes to mechanics (Hero, and C&C are two examples I see referred to frequently here, as well as True20). Paizo's boards are remarkably civil. Most of the posters here are quite awesome, and I've got many good ideas from both lurking and posting on these boards. I like Paizo's boards because I'm made to feel comfortable here. There's such an edge in the air these days from 4th edition that it has become exhausting. It certainly can't be easy for the editors and publishers that frequent these boards. I know that there's a lot of bitter feelings on both sides, but we need to go back to what makes us a community.
All hail the fatbeards!
Hmm...I'm somewhat chubby and only have 2 days growth...so, I probably don't deserve a fullblown "hail"...
How about a friendly "Hey There" and a casual wave?
<evil grin>
I'm so fatigued by this ongoing debate over 4th...
Well said, my friend. Well said.
All hail the fatbeards!
On this note... I deserve a fanfare of trumpets, not just a hail.
On this note... I deserve a fanfare of trumpets, not just a hail.All hail the fatbeards!
Again, well said. Fatbeards unite!
Hey, I was listening to this video and she let it slip about 4th Edition.
Desperate as ever, eh, Luis?
You're reading way more into this than you should. I suspect that the designers call it 4.0 because it fits in the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 progression and for no other reason.
don't forget 2.0 and 2.5
and 1.0 and 1.0 with UA
i still hat the 3.11ed for Workgroups version.
All hail the fatbeards!
thanks mang.
I'm old, skinny, and clean shaven.
I'll be old in 3 days, and I shaved this morning.
Hey, I was listening to this video and she let it slip about 4th Edition.
LISTEN CLOSELY
Video Answer on converting 3.5E material to 4E
Did you catch what she said?
She said 4.0
That's right. I don't want to hear "Oh, that's not what she meant." She slipped. What other reason is there to call 4th Edition 4.0 when it obviously implies that there will be a 4.5E?
Scott Rouse is such a liar, as he has been since the few weeks before 4th Edition was announced and continues to be, about there never being a 4.5E. Her statement alone already slipped what they have planned. 4th Edition is so much change, that you're definitely going to have players find problems with the game they couldn't find and then here comes 4.5E! Same thing happened with 3.0 and 3.5E.
Oh man, WotC cracks me up so much.
Lol. You need to get over yourself.
You're reading way more into this than you should. I suspect that the designers call it 4.0 because it fits in the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0 progression and for no other reason.don't forget 2.0 and 2.5
and 1.0 and 1.0 with UA
i still hat the 3.11ed for Workgroups version.
All hail the fatbeards!thanks mang.
Does all this numbering of game systems mean that the higher number systems are better than the lower?
If so, then 3.1415 was Gamma World (or maybe The Marrow Project).
And any RPG that requires everyone to be nude will start with 1000.
Augh! Necromancy, says I!
Begone, foul Dwimmerlake, Lord of Carrion!
......and also, cookies.
- Senator
This is all tabloid fodder....
If they make a 4.5 big deal, don't purchase it if you don't like it.
If the "grognards" don't want to accept something, they can deal with it.
These "ah ha! We got you WoTC" things are really tiring. They're a company, they need to uphold their objectives for making money/selling games. I personally never felt them to be anything "evil" like people like to portray them. Oh well banter on :)
These "ah ha! We got you WoTC" things are really tiring.
I agree. I think the best thing that can happen to this thread is for it to fall back into the archives. To make sure that happens, I'm locking it. If something momentous happens that means this topic suddenly requires more discussion, a new thread can be created.