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I appreciate the vote of confidence, DF. But Sean's Rise of the Runelords is my first foray into a PbP game in years. I'm thoroughly enjoying the experience again. Jessa and Blackwing essentially give me two characters to play at the same time. And they're more than enough with my schedule.

I have the luxury right now of being able to post both at home and while I'm at work. But that may not last forever. Occasionally, I have freelance RPG projects that can tie up my time at home. And, if things go crazy at work, I have to buckle down there, too. And I'm also the DM for 6 players every other Wednesday night at my FLGS.

So I don't think I'll look for another game just yet. I'm still getting back in the groove with the current one. Maybe when Curse of the Crimson Throne comes out and there's a reliable, fast-paced group forming, I might look for another one. For now, this is where I'm staying.

--Neil

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DitheringFool wrote:
Tarren Dei & NSpicer - I threw you under the bus HERE...

Fine with me but there are no details. ... I've put my name in on that lottery for Conquest of the Bloodsworn Vale PBP. ... I'm enjoying this one, but i can handle two.

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Aww. No love for the rest of us?

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Ross Byers wrote:
Aww. No love for the rest of us?

Hi Ross, put your name in here for the Conquest of the Bloodsworn Vale PbP.

:-)

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Ross Byers wrote:
Aww. No love for the rest of us?

Actually I'd love to drag you into it..and ManPig for that matter.

Two, maybe three, games is doable, but not at the expense of the others... I missed that you weren't heavily invested elsewhere. Go chime in!

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DitheringFool wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Aww. No love for the rest of us?
Actually I'd love to drag you into it..and ManPig for that matter.

What is it? There doesn't seem to be a game starting there...

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Tarren Dei wrote:
DitheringFool wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Aww. No love for the rest of us?
Actually I'd love to drag you into it..and ManPig for that matter.
What is it? There doesn't seem to be a game starting there...

How did you reply before I sent it?!? Weird...

Anyway, no it looks like someone posted for interest in a game looking for a DM. Maybe if we make a lot of noise...

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DitheringFool wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
DitheringFool wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Aww. No love for the rest of us?
Actually I'd love to drag you into it..and ManPig for that matter.
What is it? There doesn't seem to be a game starting there...

How did you reply before I sent it?!? Weird...

Anyway, no it looks like someone posted for interest in a game looking for a DM. Maybe if we make a lot of noise...

I'm up for another game ... Let's see if any of us getting picked in the lottery and, if not, recruit a DM to run a second game ...

Sean
DitheringFool
Tarren
Ross

Anyone else?

I'd DM but I think I need more PbP experience. Still not sure how combat is going to look and feel ...


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

Man, I am really glad for these PbP games. I've had two RL games in the last three months, I think. I've been getting more and more work, which is good, but it screws my schedule without warning sometimes. Today was going to be a RL game day for me, but I had to bow out because of work. If it weren't PbP, I'd be getting in no gaming at all.

I'm giving careful consideration to running a third campaign. Possibly running Expedition to Castle Ravenloft. Possibly even running it in d20 Modern.

But I haven't decided yet. I think three is going to be the limit of PbP games I can run at one time and still get anything done. As it is right now, I constantly worry that I'm not keeping everybody here entertained.

Anyway, great game so far. Lot's of really great character development. And soon will be goblins.

Gengar, two more cards left in the reading (it's a five card spread). I'll try and finish the reading before I go to work this morning, but it might not be until later tonight. If I get a chance to post from the theater while I'm working, I will, but no promises. Long posts are a pain on my phone.

Then we'll deal with any other extraneous business, and move on to the festival.


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30
Tarren Dei wrote:
I'd DM but I think I need more PbP experience. Still not sure how combat is going to look and feel ...

We'll get a fight going soon enough in this game.

And yeah, combat is tricky, PbP. I keep meaning to read some other PbP threads and see if there's any techniques for combat I can pick up.

Scarab Sages

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3
Tarren Dei wrote:
Anyone else?

I got four PbP games at the moment. Two as players. Two I'm running. If I start a fifth my wife will hit me with something heavy.

That said, I can use another player in my Call of Cthulhu Tabloid game (d20 rules), just started. Anyone of you would be welcome.

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Wicht wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Anyone else?

I got four PbP games at the moment. Two as players. Two I'm running. If I start a fifth my wife will hit me with something heavy.

That said, I can use another player in my Call of Cthulhu Tabloid game (d20 rules), just started. Anyone of you would be welcome.

I don't know Call of Cthulhu ... familiarity with the rule set is probably helpful, eh?

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Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3
Tarren Dei wrote:
Wicht wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Anyone else?

I got four PbP games at the moment. Two as players. Two I'm running. If I start a fifth my wife will hit me with something heavy.

That said, I can use another player in my Call of Cthulhu Tabloid game (d20 rules), just started. Anyone of you would be welcome.

I don't know Call of Cthulhu ... familiarity with the rule set is probably helpful, eh?

It's d20. If you have 3e downpat you can probably make it.

The only difference is the sanity check rules but thats just a percentile check.


Hey Sean,

I've been lurking here (great game so far guys!) and noticed this post. I was wondering how to speed up PbP combat and recommend you take a look at Aubrey's Rise of the Runelords. He manages to get through three 8-pc combats in roughly two weeks. For PCs who don't want spoilers, he has a couple of other games as well, though I haven't read them.

Since I'm here anyway, if you ever need a temp stand-in for a PC and don't feel like doing it yourself, let me know.

btw I love the Raven-Mitnal pairing!


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Just a note here, too (Hi Jonventus!):

I have to run out for a couple of hours to deliver some speakers to storage, but when I get back, I've got a mostly free afternoon and evening, so I will finish Gengar's reading, and move everybody else along as needed. I think we'll be ready for the events of the Swallowtail festival by tonight or tomorrow.

Also, I'll go check out Aubrey's PBP. Thanks for the rec, Jon.


Male Raven (Magical Beast) n/a
Jonventus wrote:
btw I love the Raven-Mitnal pairing!

Ooh! A charter member of the Blackwing fan club! Awesome!

Notice, I purposefully left out the hulking barbarian? He's just a sidekick. Much like my "assistant" Jessa. ;)


Male Human of the Shoanti Shriikirri-Quah Tribe Barbarian 3
Blackwing, Jessa's Familiar wrote:
Jonventus wrote:
btw I love the Raven-Mitnal pairing!

Ooh! A charter member of the Blackwing fan club! Awesome!

Notice, I purposefully left out the hulking barbarian? He's just a sidekick. Much like my "assistant" Jessa. ;)

limelighthoggingchatterboxbirdsayswhat?


Sean, Minister of KtSP wrote:


Also, I'll go check out Aubrey's PBP. Thanks for the rec, Jon.

Cool, I'm not sure if he does anything really special, other than post frequently. He uses a simple grid system and asks everyone to keep track of movements on paper at home so they know the game state. The players also chip in with initiative reminders, and post out of order in Spoilers if someone is taking too long to update, or if they know they'll be afk when they're turn comes up.


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

Oi. So, what was supposed to be a couple hours of work turned into the twelve hour work day from hell. With sincerest, exhausted apologies, the posts I promised this morning will have to wait until tomorrow.

On the up side, I have tomorrow off, and can post all day.

Sorry gang. I hate to leave you hanging.

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FYI...I intend for Jessa to meet Brodert Quink and Master Gandethus at the Curious Goblin the evening before the Swallowtail Festival. So she'll likely miss having dinner with everyone at the White Deer inn.

In the interests of moving the game along, however, there's no need to roleplay out the entire encounter at the Curious Goblin. I know folks are anxious to get to the meat of the adventure. So, I'm comfortable with saying she had an opportunity to discuss Quink's theories about the Old Light and gained at least a bit of insight into what he knows about ancient Thassilon.

Game on!
--Neil

Scarab Sages

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3
NSpicer wrote:
In the interests of moving the game along, however, there's no need to roleplay out the entire encounter at the Curious Goblin.

Ditto on dinner at the White Deer.

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NSpicer wrote:
I know folks are anxious to get to the meat of the adventure.

Oh, I don't know, I think everyone is having a blast!

Gengar and that your priest are meandering about in front of the White Deer if anyone wants to join us (I thought the ranger was there but Genagar can't seem to find her)

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DitheringFool wrote:
NSpicer wrote:
I know folks are anxious to get to the meat of the adventure.

Oh, I don't know, I think everyone is having a blast!

Gengar and that your priest are meandering about in front of the White Deer if anyone wants to join us (I thought the ranger was there but Genagar can't seem to find her)

I'm enjoying this without a doubt. But I'm also agreeable to skipping ahead to the next day.

For now, assuming it is lunchtime day before the festival, Mitnal and Shantare have both ended up at the Rusty Dragon.

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I tried to add a couple of fill-in posts for Jessa and Blackwing's activities. Hopefully, they fit into what you had planned, Sean. If not, adjust as necessary...

Thanks,
--Neil

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Not to spoil anyone's fun, but wouldn't Jessa's dress revert in an hour? (Like Cinderella at midnight.)

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Ross Byers wrote:
Not to spoil anyone's fun, but wouldn't Jessa's dress revert in an hour? (Like Cinderella at midnight.)

Yep. Not the hairstyle...but the highlights, certainly. And the dress will certainly change. She's still got an extra prestidigitation on hand, if necessary, for an additional hour somewhere. Expect her to make an appearance throughout the first couple of hours at the festival...then a quick wardrobe change after lunch.

Of course, some DM's have gone with the old school interpretation of prestidigitation so that some of its effects are more long-lasting. It used to depend on the type of alteration you made with the spell. But under 3.5 rules, your point is well-made, sir.

--Neil

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I think Tome and Blood had a good set of more-concrete rules for prestidigitation. Besides letting it play tindertwig in a pinch, they said out that if you actually have dye or thread, then you can make permanent changes, even if it's not quite on par with what a real tailor could do.

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Ross Byers wrote:
I think Tome and Blood had a good set of more-concrete rules for prestidigitation. Besides letting it play tindertwig in a pinch, they said out that if you actually have dye or thread, then you can make permanent changes, even if it's not quite on par with what a real tailor could do.

Found it. Page 80 in Tome and Blood. Entitled 'Fun With Prestidigitation'.

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Ross Byers wrote:
Found it. Page 80 in Tome and Blood. Entitled 'Fun With Prestidigitation'.

Not that I'm averse to the idea, but unfortunately, I don't have any of the splat books, so Jessa's "fun with prestidigitation" might be a bit more limited. ;-)

--Neil

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NSpicer wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Found it. Page 80 in Tome and Blood. Entitled 'Fun With Prestidigitation'.

Not that I'm averse to the idea, but unfortunately, I don't have any of the splat books, so Jessa's "fun with prestidigitation" might be a bit more limited. ;-)

--Neil

It's not too much more than the PHB description, just more specific. You can reshape a tiny object (permanently), but the result is crude and fragile. You can temporarily flavor or color an object. You can create a crude two-dimensional figment. You can make a small jet of fire from you hand that has all the properties of a tindertwig. You can levitate small objects. You can gather items into piles, like collecting all the coins in an area. (In the case of things like coins, it only stacks them, not sorts them.) You can stitch cloth or leather, temporarily with just magic, or permanently if you have thread. Dye isn't mentioned, but seems a fair extension of the stiching/thread rule since you can color an object temporarily with just magic.

Then there are the effects I call 'semi-permanent'. That is, they do not end when the spell effect ends, but can be reversed normally. That is, an object cleaned with Presitidigitation remains clean even after the hour, but can be soiled normally. These effects are: cleaning, polishing, dirtying, dampening, drying, heating, cooling, and tying two objects together.

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Ross Byers wrote:
It's not too much more than the PHB description, just more specific. You can reshape a tiny object (permanently), but the result is crude and fragile. You can temporarily flavor or color an object....You can stitch cloth or leather, temporarily with just magic, or permanently if you have thread. Dye isn't mentioned, but seems a fair extension of the stiching/thread rule since you can color an object temporarily with just magic.

That sounds much more like the old 2nd Edition prestidigitation...which I prefer. But I'll leave it to Sean to decide whether the magic can work that way. I've already posted that the spell waned in an hour. But clearly, Jessa is interested in improving the design of that particular cantrip. Maybe she'll eventually find the resources to create a 0-level makeover or tailoring spell. Kind of a combination illusion/transmutation effect...

--Neil

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NSpicer wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
It's not too much more than the PHB description, just more specific. You can reshape a tiny object (permanently), but the result is crude and fragile. You can temporarily flavor or color an object....You can stitch cloth or leather, temporarily with just magic, or permanently if you have thread. Dye isn't mentioned, but seems a fair extension of the stiching/thread rule since you can color an object temporarily with just magic.

That sounds much more like the old 2nd Edition prestidigitation...which I prefer. But I'll leave it to Sean to decide whether the magic can work that way. I've already posted that the spell waned in an hour. But clearly, Jessa is interested in improving the design of that particular cantrip. Maybe she'll eventually find the resources to create a 0-level makeover or tailoring spell. Kind of a combination illusion/transmutation effect...

--Neil

Or maybe just a 1st level spell: Prestidigitation, Greater.


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

I'm fine with minor appearance effects lingering longer than the duration as written. It's not like you're asking for a 0 level disguise or alter self spell.

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Sean, Minister of KtSP wrote:
I'm fine with minor appearance effects lingering longer than the duration as written. It's not like you're asking for a 0 level disguise or alter self spell.

Cool. I'll try to indicate Jessa "growing" into her mastery of extending it then. We can chalk it up as ongoing spell research that just hits a variation of the normal prestidigitation that's more specific to a makeover and tailoring type of effect. For now, I'll just keep roleplaying the limited variety until the opportune moment arrives to make it last longer.

--Neil

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Hey guys, over in another game MythrilDragon has turned me on to a great idea I thought I would share. I have added an Initial Reactions to Fellow PC's section to Gengar's character sheet. As the adventure evolves I'll update his opinions - right now they are what they are.

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Yep. He's a dwarf all right.


Male Human of the Shoanti Shriikirri-Quah Tribe Barbarian 3

"Who are you people and what am I doing in the wrong thread?" asks an astonished Mitnal.

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Mitnal hasn't formed many opinions of some of you yet, but I've added his on his sheet as well.

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Tarren Dei wrote:

Mitnal hasn't formed many opinions of some of you yet, but I've added his on his sheet as well.

I'm just teasing, but how small was Mitnal as a 10 year old? Halflings are more like the size of toddlers.

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Ruano now has his impressions up as well.

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Ross Byers wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:

Mitnal hasn't formed many opinions of some of you yet, but I've added his on his sheet as well.

I'm just teasing, but how small was Mitnal as a 10 year old? Halflings are more like the size of toddlers.

Good point. I fixed it.

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Perfect. I laughed out loud. Which got me funny looks, because I'm in a computer lab supposedly writing code.

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Sweet! I love the impressions!


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

Heh, so I only just noticed that I had incorrectly transcribed Father Zantus' name as Father Zanthus.

I've gone back and fixed the name in his alias, but other posts where I typed his name incorrectly will stay.

It's ultimately trivial in the grand scheme of things, but I felt compelled to correct myself.

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We're in round 2, right?

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I think so. Lemme see...

Surprise round - Goblins win init.
Goblin runs up to Ruano.
Ruano wacks him with staff.

Round one - Goblin stabs Ruano.
Ruano misses.

Round two - Goblin stabs Ruano.
Ruano misses (presuming a 5 misses).

Yes. We are currently in round 2.


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

Yep. The goblin attacks are the cycle point. The last set cycled us into round 2.

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I've been thinking about ways to denote which language a multi-linguial character is using, without needing to specify in text. While this may be fairly obvious when talking TO someone, Ruano talks to himself and Spot quite often. So far, I've used </> instead of "/" for Druidic, since no one else in the party can understand it. However, I still have two languages to take care of for Ruano.

From this point, I will be using the follow notation for Ruano's speech:
"/" - Common
</> - Druidic
'/' - Halfling
|/| - Sylvan
Italics - Inner monologue


Male, but you really don't want to know how to check gender on a beholder... Human. You just can't beat that extra feat and those extra skill points. Gamer 20 (specialist school - DMing)/Theater Tech 15/Writer 10/ Slacker 30

That reminds me of David Brin's Startide Rising. There were something like eight different alien languages in the novel, plus two different non-English dolphin languages. He had a system of tildes, slashes, colons and pound symbols to indicate which language was being spoken.

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Sean, Minister of KtSP wrote:
That reminds me of David Brin's Startide Rising. There were something like eight different alien languages in the novel, plus two different non-English dolphin languages. He had a system of tildes, slashes, colons and pound symbols to indicate which language was being spoken.

I've read some of Brin's stuff: Earth and Kiln People. He's an interesting author, but he has a drastic misunderstanding of the Uncertainty Principle.

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