I'm a old school grognard I like Humans,elves,half-elves, dwarves,halflings,gnomes and half-orcs for my players to be. I have never allowed drow, duergar, minotaur, loxo, preymantis men, lizard men,tieflings,dragonborn men etc, to be allowed as a playable races.
What PC races have you Banned in your games?
For the record, I hate elves, dwarves and halflings.
This is only slightly off-topic, but I've always hated Orcs. Don't know why, they just seem pretty useless in the generic thug/hood/goon sort of way, thus I never allow Orcs and by extension Half-Orcs. So not totally off-topic...
Anything else is totally up for review before I'd allow it. I might love it (warforged) or hate it (dragonborn), but before it becomes a character the player and I would have a loooooonnnnnnggggg talk...
Forgot to mention, I also dislike intensely the "new" races from the Races of... books, like the goliath and the floaty halo angel looking things...
I've always wondered what the attraction was for orcs/half-orcs? Do people treat them like fantasy Klingons/Worf?
I feel sorry for Dm's in 4e when player ask to play a tiefling(AKA fanboy favorite Hellboy).
And what the hell is up with the warforged!How the hell do they heal! made of wood and metal, do you have to go to town and see a blacksmith and a carpenter, "Yeah it's gonna be week before I can gets you parts for your warforged?".
This is only slightly off-topic, but I've always hated Orcs. Don't know why, they just seem pretty useless in the generic thug/hood/goon sort of way, thus I never allow Orcs and by extension Half-Orcs. So not totally off-topic...
Anything else is totally up for review before I'd allow it. I might love it (warforged) or hate it (dragonborn), but before it becomes a character the player and I would have a loooooonnnnnnggggg talk...
Ah! An Eberron-player ha entered our midst! Kill it!
*Looks at others who are busy not killing it*Oh, yeah, forgot. Dang it, Keith Baker!!!
This is only slightly off-topic, but I've always hated Orcs. Don't know why, they just seem pretty useless in the generic thug/hood/goon sort of way, thus I never allow Orcs and by extension Half-Orcs. So not totally off-topic...
Anything else is totally up for review before I'd allow it. I might love it (warforged) or hate it (dragonborn), but before it becomes a character the player and I would have a loooooonnnnnnggggg talk...
Ah! An Eberron-player ha entered our midst! Kill it!
*Looks at others who are busy not killing it*
Oh, yeah, forgot. Dang it, Keith Baker!!!
Actually, it's interesting you say that, even in jest. Until recently, the only thing about Eberron I liked was the idea of warforged. But I've run out of decent FR novels to read and so I have reluctantly picked up some Eberron fiction and I have to tell you... the setting is starting to intrigue me...
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I feel sorry for Dm's in 4e when player ask to play a tiefling(AKA fanboy favorite Hellboy).
And what the hell is up with the warforged!How the hell do they heal! made of wood and metal, do you have to go to town and see a blacksmith and a carpenter, "Yeah it's gonna be week before I can gets you parts for your warforged?".
Well, yeah, that is it. You can use Craft (Blacksmith) or another one (forget) to heal hp, assuming you don't have access to repair spells. One of the limitations of being a warforged.
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I feel sorry for Dm's in 4e when player ask to play a tiefling(AKA fanboy favorite Hellboy).
For the record, Hellboy is a full demon, just raised as a human. Though I have to say, the 4e picture of the tiefling does look much more like Hellboy than the 3E tiefling. In 3E they are supposed to be far removed demonic heritage (>25%). Perhaps 4E makes them more fiendish (50%)?
Oh, and I generally let people play a race once until I see it detracting from the game, though I dislike anything with a level adjustment.
Though Whisper gnomes? Never again.
I really don't disallow any races unless the player is misusing it or it's abilities- that's the fault of the player, not the race.
IMC there are aasimar, tieflings, gith and were. The last is a bestial race, similar to gnolls.
Craig
I dislike creatures with a level adjustment of +3 or more.
If its a +2 I warn my player they will need a ton of experiance just to reach 2nd level and it usually scares them off.
Ive had only two occasions where a player wanted to be a race that had a level adjustment...Once I had a Goliath and once a Teifling.
I also wont allow campaign spacific races unless its in the campaign setting (no Kender unless Dragonlance. No Warforged unless Eberron).
Gno Gnomes!
Gnome hater! Inthe name of Glittergold, I call upon the sacrifice (of 5,000 gnomes)to smite this ne'er do gooder!
oh yeah I forgot kobold's are only a fodder race used so 1st level characters can get to 2nd level.
Playing Keepers can be fun...
...if your idea of fun is to screw up someone's game.
SNARF!
As of yet, I ban nothing. I simply warn my players that they will be treated as is appropriate for a member of their race, with appropriate reasonable modifications based on how they present themselves visually (coated in gore VRs reasonably clean) and verbally (demanding VRs asking nicely).
I make use of diplomacy, intimidate, and sense motives, on both the sides of the PCS and NPCS.
To that end, I have seen arrogant elves be forced to sleep in the woods outside of town "where them pointy eared folk belong (NPC quote, isolated human town)", and I've seen a generous silver dragon wyrmling and his ogre bodyguard sleep in an inn because "if his coin be good, who cares if he walk on four legs, or who he calls a freind? (another NPC, same party, same place).
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Gno Gnomes!*cries*
Well, it's not entirely true. There are Some Games where I think it permissible to use gnomes.
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I don't allow any of the races from the 'Races of' books.
Most of them are kinda sorta other classic races revamped anyway. Goliaths are what Half-Ogres shoulda been. Raptorans are what Aarakocra coulda been. Illumians are out of the question. Just no. I do find the Killorans interesting, but I'd consider using them in a world with no Elves, just Killorans in the elvish 'natureboy' role. Dragonborn (the ones from Races of the Dragon) are far too specialized to be useful. Spellscales are too quirky for my tastes.
Core races, all good. Monster Manual races that can work as player races, such as Orcs, Goblins, Hobgoblins, Kobolds, Gnolls, etc. also fine.
Anything not in the Core books is optional anyway, so it's not a question of 'banning,' so much as saying, 'I'm not *adding* that to the setting.'
Not really a ban, but my group uses Orcs instead of Half-Orcs.
A bit off-topic not a race, but I've banned all lycanthropes. I had a wizard who wanted to be a natrual weretiger...no story or RP reason. He just wanted to be good in combat and be able to cast spells.
It's a shame I've had some cool werewolf characters.....
Fizz
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Not really a ban, but my group uses Orcs instead of Half-Orcs.
A bit off-topic not a race, but I've banned all lycanthropes. I had a wizard who wanted to be a natrual weretiger...no story or RP reason. He just wanted to be good in combat and be able to cast spells.
It's a shame I've had some cool werewolf characters.....
Fizz
Banning all Lycanthropes is just plain smart. Don't need more Heathys running about...
Yeah, I'm having enough trouble of killing dat wascawwy wabbit!
*Bam bam bam*
Missed again!
Not really a ban, but my group uses Orcs instead of Half-Orcs.
A bit off-topic not a race, but I've banned all lycanthropes. I had a wizard who wanted to be a natrual weretiger...no story or RP reason. He just wanted to be good in combat and be able to cast spells.
Fizz
Man I really hate that guy...
Fizz
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Banning all Lycanthropes is just plain smart. Don't need more Heathys running about...Not really a ban, but my group uses Orcs instead of Half-Orcs.
A bit off-topic not a race, but I've banned all lycanthropes. I had a wizard who wanted to be a natrual weretiger...no story or RP reason. He just wanted to be good in combat and be able to cast spells.
It's a shame I've had some cool werewolf characters.....
Fizz
You'd love Eberron then. They're extinct.
You'd love Eberron then. They're extinct.Banning all Lycanthropes is just plain smart. Don't need more Heathys running about...Not really a ban, but my group uses Orcs instead of Half-Orcs.
A bit off-topic not a race, but I've banned all lycanthropes. I had a wizard who wanted to be a natrual weretiger...no story or RP reason. He just wanted to be good in combat and be able to cast spells.
It's a shame I've had some cool werewolf characters.....
Fizz
I like lycans. I love shifters.
I hate when munchkins want to be them. Yeah so I cast fireball and then go weretiger and pounce...WHAT!? YOU CAN JUST DO THAT!?!
I really love a good roleplayed lycan. I used the druid varient shapeshift, and just said I was a werewolf. It worked.
Fizz
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I like lycans. I love shifters.
I really love a good roleplayed lycan. I used the druid varient shapeshift, and just said I was a werewolf. It worked.
Okay, I'm familiar with shifters, but what is a "lycan" (other than a term used to describe werewolves and shapeshifters in general)? If this is a race you're referring to, where might I read player stats for such?
Okay, I'm familiar with shifters, but what is a "lycan" (other than a term used to describe werewolves and shapeshifters in general)? If this is a race you're referring to, where might I read player stats for such?I like lycans. I love shifters.
I really love a good roleplayed lycan. I used the druid varient shapeshift, and just said I was a werewolf. It worked.
I was using it instead of lycanthrope. Lycanthrope is a template in D&D. There is also lycanthrope "class/racial" levels on the WotC website. They basiclly give you all the were-X stuff over X number of levels. There are other settings that have playable werewolves. ie werewolf. I do believe Green Ronin makes so werewolf settings too.
Fizz
Kender... nuff said.
WHAT?!
You'd love Eberron then. They're extinct.
I think that they're just very, very rare. Isn't there one in the Eldeen Reaches somewhere?
That's a werebeaver.
It is not!!!
You banned...kobolds?! How could you? how could you?
*Sobs*
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Depends on the campaign.
I'm sort of a purist and like to stick with everything from the PHB. Although, seems every campaign i run allows anything and everything published, both official and unnofficial(upon approval)... including classes. Ah well, it does make things interesting.
It's all about the fun-factor.
FYI: my fav's are the halflings, gnomes, and kobolds.
Side concern: are the rumors true about the elimination of gnomes and halflings in 4.0? Apologies for the semi-jack of this thread with my last question.
Being that halflings and gnomes are my favorite races, i felt it to be a calculated risk of being pelted by pies by asking the 4.0 question.
Thoth-Amon
