RotR Are the Core books enough?


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How much material (feats, prestige class's, ect) are from books other than the core books (PHB, DMG, and MM)? I was planning on converting RotR to C&C but may consider running it as is (3.5) if it can be done using only the core books.


Maliki wrote:
How much material (feats, prestige class's, ect) are from books other than the core books (PHB, DMG, and MM)? I was planning on converting RotR to C&C but may consider running it as is (3.5) if it can be done using only the core books.

I'm sure James or one of the other Paizo guys will give you an "official" answer. But Pathfinder (and Gamemastery modules) or designed using the OGL.

Basically, they "assume" the core three books, and if they include anything else, they give you whatever info you need to run the encounter. So if you only have the Core (or the SRD), and Pathfinder, you will have no problems.

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What mevers said.

You only need the core three rulebooks. Anything else we bring in from other sources gets reprinted in the book.

The philosophy behind Pathfinder is to give you everything you need to run the adventure that isn't in the core rulebooks. :)


Mike McArtor wrote:

What mevers said.

You only need the core three rulebooks. Anything else we bring in from other sources gets reprinted in the book.

The philosophy behind Pathfinder is to give you everything you need to run the adventure that isn't in the core rulebooks. :)

How do you get permission to include portions of non-OGL books? I thought Wizards wasn't giving permission anymore?

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doppelganger wrote:
How do you get permission to include portions of non-OGL books?

They don't. They use non-core OGL books. Made by people other than Wizards of the Coast.

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Ungoded wrote:
They don't. They use non-core OGL books. Made by people other than Wizards of the Coast.

What Ungoded said.

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While Paizo hasn't gone hog wild on the amount of non-WotC OGL material I think you'll find that quite a few companies (Green Ronin for example) were doing d20 material better than WotC was.

While there was an over-abundance of d20 stuff put out quite a few of products put out were of far superior quality than WotC material.

I'll have to say it - the Paizo Pathfinder material is for me, the equivalent of running or playing the old 1st edition classics like Against the Giants or Queen of the Demonweb Pits. Yes - it's that good.

Greg Volz
Natural Twenty Gaming

Ungoded wrote:
doppelganger wrote:
How do you get permission to include portions of non-OGL books?
They don't. They use non-core OGL books. Made by people other than Wizards of the Coast.


Thanks for all the replies, now if I can get my players to give 3E a try, I'll give 3E another go.


I second the Green Ronin nomination. If the backstory of RotR allows, the Exarchs of Sin from the Book of Fiends will feature prominently.

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rugbyman wrote:
I second the Green Ronin nomination. If the backstory of RotR allows, the Exarchs of Sin from the Book of Fiends will feature prominently.

Unfortunately, it appears that most of the flavor in Green Ronin's Book of Fiends isn't open content. I've been looking at that book for some time and would LOVE to use monsters from there, but since the flavor's not open content, I'm not sure how to use them since we'd basically have to come up with NEW flavor. At which point it doesn't really matter which monster you use to fill a dungeon associated with monsters of a certain type of sin... except that it does, because many readers will assume it's a mistake if we come up with new flavor for those critters.

Of course, the monsters in Book of Fiends tend to skew either toward the higher CR range or into themes that are adult enough that if we included some of them, these message boards would probably explode...


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