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James Keegan wrote:
Here he is, punching Drakthar's goblins like it's his job. Because he's a monk, and therefore, it is his job.

Hah!

Reminds me of me, when I was still human and still excited about 2nd level spells!

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Updated DeviantArt page.


Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question

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Aramil Xiloscient wrote:
Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question

Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Aramil Xiloscient wrote:
Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!

In my experience, ethics can rarely withstand cash.

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Arctaris wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Aramil Xiloscient wrote:
Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!
In my experience, ethics can rarely withstand cash.

The indignance of the righteous can, though. It's why I have no money.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Aramil Xiloscient wrote:
Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!
In my experience, ethics can rarely withstand cash.
The indignance of the righteous can, though. It's why I have no money.

So that brings up the question: is it better to be rich and unrighteous or poor and righteous?

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Arctaris wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Arctaris wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Aramil Xiloscient wrote:
Somebody bought a print of one of my pieces!!!!!!!! The print in question
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!
In my experience, ethics can rarely withstand cash.
The indignance of the righteous can, though. It's why I have no money.
So that brings up the question: is it better to be rich and unrighteous or poor and righteous?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather be poor.


Finally updated my website after months of neglecting it. There's now a whole fantasy section separate from the other crazy crap.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!

What's unethical about the Prints feature on dA?

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Lilith wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!
What's unethical about the Prints feature on dA?

No, it's not that selling stuff is unethical, it's that I find that pawning my stuff off as anything other than amateurish dreck is like dialing back the odometer on a used car. Pretentious.

I'm sorry if I was unclear on that. I try not to judge people.


Ah! I understand. :P


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Lilith wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Sweet. I don't enable purchase on mine for ethical/OCD reasons, so it's good that someone on Paizo has an *active* DeviantArt page. Props!
What's unethical about the Prints feature on dA?

No, it's not that selling stuff is unethical, it's that I find that pawning my stuff off as anything other than amateurish dreck is like dialing back the odometer on a used car. Pretentious.

I'm sorry if I was unclear on that. I try not to judge people.

Makes sense. I can't imagine charging anything for the 'art' that I do.


Updated Deviant art page.

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Updated DeviantArt as well.

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Rest in peace, Gary.


Check out my animations!

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Yet another update.


A deviantart as well. Feel free to peruse, though it's mostly writing.

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QUESTION FOR JAMES KEEGAN:

Would you object to my using this drawing for a t-shirt? I'll only be making one, and I'm not going to be selling it. Just thought I should ask.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

QUESTION FOR JAMES KEEGAN:

Would you object to my using this drawing for a t-shirt? I'll only be making one, and I'm not going to be selling it. Just thought I should ask.

Hmmm. If you put my website on it or some kind of indication of credit, I have no problem.


James Keegan wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

QUESTION FOR JAMES KEEGAN:

Would you object to my using this drawing for a t-shirt? I'll only be making one, and I'm not going to be selling it. Just thought I should ask.

Hmmm. If you put my website on it or some kind of indication of credit, I have no problem.

Keegs... make your signature: Jamesmkeegan.com


Here is some of my art on Deviant Art

Paizo Employee Director of Narrative

The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

QUESTION FOR JAMES KEEGAN:

Would you object to my using this drawing for a t-shirt? I'll only be making one, and I'm not going to be selling it. Just thought I should ask.

Dude, can I buy one of those shirts? ;)

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James Keegan wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:

QUESTION FOR JAMES KEEGAN:

Would you object to my using this drawing for a t-shirt? I'll only be making one, and I'm not going to be selling it. Just thought I should ask.

Hmmm. If you put my website on it or some kind of indication of credit, I have no problem.

Alright, will do. Thanks, man.


Now i'm a deviant too!


Polevoi wrote:
Now i'm a deviant too!

Very evocative illustrations, Polevoi! Thank you for sharing your work.


Thanks!

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Polevoi wrote:
Now i'm a deviant too!

Sweet.

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I like this one. Make your own judgement.

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Rorg.

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My latest.


Shiny, some unsolicited suggestions for you, based entirely on what I can see on your page (not a member, so I couldn't go into the full bunch of them)...

Spoiler:
The smartest advice I ever got about making art is this: Making a good piece isn't entirely about talent; you need to be willing to spend time on it, look at other artists to see how they set up and solve problems and then have a bit of raw talent to make it work. You've got raw talent, I think your work will just benefit more from looking at a lot of artists and really sitting down to plan your work. I used to always rush into my stuff; I couldn't wait to get started and crank out a finished piece. But after a while, I sat down and realized that the best things I did came from being deliberate and thinking the whole thing out. Make a few little drawings in a pad of the subject you want to draw and try out a few different versions. They don't have to be awesome and detailed: in fact, you're better off keeping them as general as possible. Maybe even scan them and mess around on the computer. The important thing is to get a composition layed out, an idea of lighting and things like that.

Then, look for reference. If you have friends, some clip lights ($5-15 at a department store; the big industrial kind that clamp on anything) and a digital camera, you can get them to pose for you. If you don't have that, check out flickr and the library for some good photos. The best monsters come from the natural world and if your library is like mine, there are a crapload of free old National Geographics laying around for free. Grab 'em. Real life pictures of animals, other cultures (where fantasy cultures come from; Donato Giancola swears by this huge book about African jewelery for making his characters look really distinctive) and landscapes are all over the place. As long as you modify them to fit what you want to do, they're a great resource.

The major thing that you get at an art school that you might not arrive at on your own is the stress on observation. I wish I could pull everything straight from my head. I would love it. But to really get nice and specific and real looking, you need to see it in real life in front of you or in a photograph. Everybody does it that way, if they're smart, because even if you are investing time in gathering up the reference you're ultimately saving yourself time struggling later. And as much as they suck and are totally boring, still lives will teach you a lot about space, shape and light. Just set up one every few days (with one light source and a piece of white paper or something to reflect light) and draw it as best you can. You'll be amazed at how it can change the way you look at things. Get your friends to sit down and read or watch a movie or something and draw them while they sit there. Doesn't have to be great, just get as close as possible and don't stress if they move. Just keep drawing them.

The more you observe and record, the more you train your brain for when you want to sit down and make something up.

If you really put all that work in up front and slow down, the final result may really amaze you. Look at lighting, look at textures and ask yourself how to work it into what you're doing. I see a lot of shots straight on or right in profile in your work; try looking at people in different angles. I'm just as guilty of anyone as picking the icing off the cake and going for a guy just standing in white space, but what you really want is to get interraction and scene happening. Even if it's just a guy picking up a penny on the street, it's interraction. There's something happening there. If character design is what you want to do, do a character in 360 degrees. Then do gestures, facial expressions. Do they smile? Do they glower? Make soup? Cast spells? Try to show it. Be ambitious; drawing is one of the safest things in the world you can do and no one has to see if you mess up.

Tony Diterlizzi started his career with computer paper, highlighter markers and other office supply materials. I know cartoonists that only work with the stuff they can buy at Staples. Don't sweat the bullshit like fancy pants supplies; just get out there and try to push yourself outside of your comfort zone.

Here are people I look at:
Zoltan and Gabor
Adam Rex
Jon Foster
Guy Davis
Wesley Burt

Probably a few you've seen before, but there you go. Keep drawing.


James Keegan wrote:

Shiny, some unsolicited suggestions for you, based entirely on what I can see on your page (not a member, so I couldn't go into the full bunch of them)...

I don't know if Shiny gave a rats ass, but this is good advice. I am going to apply it to [secret project].

:-)

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James Keegan wrote:
Shiny, some unsolicited suggestions for you, based entirely on what I can see on your page (not a member, so I couldn't go into the full bunch of them)...

Thanks a friggin' TON for the advice. It's probably the first actual suggestions I've been given in years. Seriously, thanks.

I'm also a big Tony DiTerlizzi / Adam Rex fan, so I appreciate you popping me the links. I'll take a look at all of them. A couple of other guys I've been attempting to study are Ray Pettibon, rk Post, and Paizo's own Kyle Stanley Hunter.

Again, I really REALLY appreciate the input. You're the friggin' MAN.

Peace out,
Shiny


No problem, man. It's all stuff that I only know because someone else said it to me, you know? All those other guys are awesome, too. I saw a great Pettibon show a few years ago at the Whitney in New York. I especially like his Gumby drawings.

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China Mieville has infected my DNA. Seriously.

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Meh...

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For some reason, people like this.


Hey Mr. Shiny, you like Spring Cleaning too?


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
For some reason, people like this.

OHMYGARL it's HEATHY!

Oh, wait. Nevermind.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
For some reason, people like this.

It's nice. Reminds me of a NYC street art vibe, like how fun Haring's stuff used to be.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
For some reason, people like this.

I like the lion quite a bit. That I am a liar pic should have been the sleeve for Henry Rollins casingle or 45 of Liar. It's great.


Trey wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
For some reason, people like this.
It's nice. Reminds me of a NYC street art vibe, like how fun Haring's stuff used to be.

I was in "Bassy" Bob Brockman's studio two years ago, and Haring grafiti still smothers the tiny, decrepit lobby. I love the way his art still pops up in the cracks.


Hey, Shiny. That lion's pretty strong. Try inking it, making the lines clean and black and then coloring it. Try a few different versions. And maybe try to make a few more.

As for Keith Haring, across the street from where I work in NYC there's a public pool that isn't in use anymore that Haring did a mural for. It's actually really great; he did a lot of work for the benefit of inner city kids. I have a photo of it somewhere, along with the plaque that tells all about it.

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The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
For some reason, people like this.
I like the lion quite a bit. That I am a liar pic should have been the sleeve for Henry Rollins casingle or 45 of Liar. It's great.

Hey, thanks!


James Keegan wrote:


As for Keith Haring, across the street from where I work in NYC there's a public pool that isn't in use anymore that Haring did a mural for. It's actually really great; he did a lot of work for the benefit of inner city kids. I have a photo of it somewhere, along with the plaque that tells all about it.

There's also that handball wall in a playground you see when driving south on the FDR.

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This is your fault. You made me think about Haring, and I drew... something.

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Don't know if I've uploaded this before...


Recent-ish stuffs:

Ranger with some issues...
Shelyn, the Eternal Rose
Fan Service! (NSFW, here's a work-in-progress version)

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