I got a player that is hooked on warlock. In the past 5 characters we have made he has done a warlock three times. Anyways he wants to do some homebrew invocations. I was wondering if any one has some home brew ones of their own.
I'm a big fan of homebrew stuff. And I've learned its the most dangerous thing out there to campaign balance. I'm not saying don't do it, just make sure you do it well, smart, and methodically.
First: Dragon Magic has a few new invocations (tecnically Dragonfire Adept Invocations, but they bridge over fine), as does Complete Mage. You may want to explore those before adding in homebrew.
After that, use the invocations already printed to give benchmarks of power. A lot of people consider the invocation Flee the Scene to be overpowered. But notice that its range is cut to short: 25 +5/2 caster levels. So a 20th level warlock can only Dimension Door 75 feet. Compared to the 20th level mage who can hit 1200 feet. Granted, the mage doesn't leave behind an afterimage, but the mage CAN escape out of the dungeon that is 100 feet underground.
Im totally not mentally here right now, so I'll end now. Hope this helps.
Sure Dave, I've got some that I made up. Eight invocations and a new ring. Email me at zetazombie@yahoo.com and I'll send you the file.
Could I e-mail you as well for the invocations. I'm a big fan of the warlock.
I would really appreciate if you sent me the invocations as well. My address is wraith6@raresteeds.com. Thanks.
I don't have a specific invocation to post, but I have thought about the warlock's powers somewhat. It seems rather odd to me that they get no summoning or ability to command/control fiends. Might I suggest an invocation similar to hold person that only works on Outsiders (perhaps only evil ones or those with the Evil subtype, even)?
Alternately/additionally, the Complete Mage has an invocation which allows a warlock to shapechange into a bezekira (and, unlike polymorph, grants more of the creature's natural abilities). You could make more along this line that allow the warlock to transform into the shapes of demons. This may also be a good idea for a PrC.
I might work with that hold outsider idea. My player is going to be taking bloodline levels out of unearthed Arcana and he is interested in dealing with devils.
On a side note, this same player once told me bards don't have enough offensive spells. Never happy
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On a side note, this same player once told me bards don't have enough offensive spells. Never happy
....that's like saying wizards don't have enough healing spells or that barbarians don't get enough sneak attack. Bards are not an offensive class (well, okay, they can be "offensive" but not on the battlefield if you know what I mean...). I will not delve into a rant, however, and shall return to the thread at hand:
Warlock invocations are very tricky to develop because they ignore many of the 'balancing factors' of traditional spells by dint of being able to be cast at will.
A least eldritch essence invocation that I came up with was eldritch cloud. It allows you to shape your eldritch blast into a bubble around you, granting you concealment for one round (20% miss chance) and deals eldritch blast damage to any other creatures occupying your square (useful against swarms and grapplers).
That's really all I've got for now.
I've got four with a bit of a diabolical flavor to them, but I'm not going to publish them here because they're still a campaign secret and two of my players visit these boards occasionally. I tried to make them balanced, but haven't playtested them yet. If you want them, e-mail me at abatai@yahoo.com.
It would be cool to collect a fair number of these and post them online someplace. The warlock is actually one of the cooler non-core classes that WotC came up with, and I wish there was a little more expansion/support for them.
I'm a big fan of homebrew stuff. And I've learned its the most dangerous thing out there to campaign balance. I'm not saying don't do it, just make sure you do it well, smart, and methodically.
I agree whole-heartedly here, with only one minor grumble: when figuring out balance, it seems to me that you'd want to compare power levels at certain common levels: when the ability is first available, when the ability seems most over-powered, and at the maximum level for your campaign. A simple comparison at 20th level strikes me as inadequate, as most campaigns do not reach 20th level.
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Sure Dave, I've got some that I made up. Eight invocations and a new ring. Email me at zetazombie@yahoo.com and I'll send you the file.Could I e-mail you as well for the invocations. I'm a big fan of the warlock.
Feel free. I'll check my email this evening when I get home.
And to Arctaris: I've noted your email address and will include you as well.
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I have two. Keep in mind these aren't as powerful as some of the other invocations available, more flavor than anything else.
Lesser Eldritch Essence Invocation:
The Wrath of Angels: A good aligned warlock can summon the fury of angels. His blast issues forth as flickering blue holy fire that scorches evil beings. The damage done is treated as Good damage and effectively gives the Warlock the Smite ability against evil creatures.
Lesser Invocation:
Dead Man's Tongue: Allows the Warlock to use the Speak with Dead spell.
Lesser Invocation:
Dead Man's Tongue: Allows the Warlock to use the Speak with Dead spell.
I like Dead Man's Tongue. Frankly it's a spell that I think is under utilized. As an invocation it's both useful and nice flavor for a character.
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Has anyone ever played/seen a multiclassed Warlock/Sorcerer or Wizard? How well did it work? Any opinions on this?
I'm more into flavor than power gaming, I know it won't be the most efficient build. I like some aspects of the warlock, but to make the character a little more versatile, it might be nice to know some other tricks. The sorcerer and warlock overlap nicely in the sense of natural magical ability.
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Minor Threadjack Alert:
Has anyone ever played/seen a multiclassed Warlock/Sorcerer or Wizard? How well did it work? Any opinions on this?
I'm more into flavor than power gaming, I know it won't be the most efficient build. I like some aspects of the warlock, but to make the character a little more versatile, it might be nice to know some other tricks. The sorcerer and warlock overlap nicely in the sense of natural magical ability.
I'm actually getting ready to play one in a game this weekend. I'm a warlock/necromancer and I'm shooting for the Eldritch Theurge PrC from the Complete Mage. I'll let you know how it works out.
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I'm actually getting ready to play one in a game this weekend. I'm a warlock/necromancer and I'm shooting for the Eldritch Theurge PrC from the Complete Mage. I'll let you know how it works out.
Yeah, let me know how it is.
I've been thinking about playing a character with one level of noble (more story driven than anything else) and multiclassing between warlock and sorcerer.
Since I was about 12, I've really liked Marvel's Black Tom Cassidy. I've always wanted to play a character loosely based on him, but before the warlock came out with its eldritch blast, no other class would allow a comparable character. Lame, I know, but it's an itch that's 15 years overdue for scratching.
I was just thinking he might not be so one dimensional if he had other capabilities as well, aside from just being arcane artillery.
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I was just thinking he might not be so one dimensional if he had other capabilities as well, aside from just being arcane artillery.
Yeah, the Eldritch Theurge PrC is practically a must for a multiclassed warlock/arcanist. Being able to deliver touch spells with your eldritch blasts and full casting progression for BOTH classes? Yeah, I'll take that.
Can't believe I hit the board w/ a Warlock question and found a warlock thread in the top ten posts...
I'm about to play a new character in a game tomorrow - 5th level PCs - and have run into a question. My PC is a Human Ftr1/Warlock4 and is taking the Eldrich Glaive invocation from Dragon Magic. Complete Arcane never clearly addressed (to me, at least) if a Warlock's EB benefitted from Weapon Focus (ranged spells). If the Warlock is using the Eldrich Glaive blast-shape invocation, does he still benefit from Weapon Focus, Point-Blank Shot, et al? Does Eldrich Glaive do STR bonus damage (or, in my case, take a STR penalty) on a successful hit?
Can't believe I hit the board w/ a Warlock question and found a warlock thread in the top ten posts...
I'm about to play a new character in a game tomorrow - 5th level PCs - and have run into a question. My PC is a Human Ftr1/Warlock4 and is taking the Eldrich Glaive invocation from Dragon Magic. Complete Arcane never clearly addressed (to me, at least) if a Warlock's EB benefitted from Weapon Focus (ranged spells). If the Warlock is using the Eldrich Glaive blast-shape invocation, does he still benefit from Weapon Focus, Point-Blank Shot, et al? Does Eldrich Glaive do STR bonus damage (or, in my case, take a STR penalty) on a successful hit?
I would say that Eldrich Glaive would not benefit from Weapon Focus (ranged spells) or Point-blank Shot. It now has a physical form so you would need Weapon Focus (glaive) to get a bonus to hit.
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I'm actually getting ready to play one in a game this weekend. I'm a warlock/necromancer and I'm shooting for the Eldritch Theurge PrC from the Complete Mage. I'll let you know how it works out.Yeah, let me know how it is.
I've been thinking about playing a character with one level of noble (more story driven than anything else) and multiclassing between warlock and sorcerer.
Since I was about 12, I've really liked Marvel's Black Tom Cassidy. I've always wanted to play a character loosely based on him, but before the warlock came out with its eldritch blast, no other class would allow a comparable character. Lame, I know, but it's an itch that's 15 years overdue for scratching.
I was just thinking he might not be so one dimensional if he had other capabilities as well, aside from just being arcane artillery.
I've thought about doing a Black Tom kinda character in the past as well. Let me know how it goes!