I have taken to pronouncing Sahuagin as "Sah-WA-jin," actually.
I pronounce it Sa-huah-gin (gin like gimp)...
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My wonderful DM and his wife, a player in our game, have a penchant for pronouncing various words in the DnD vernacular in unexpected ways. After sitting quietly confused for five minutes listening to him repeatedly say "Buh-Starred" sword , I asked what the hell he meant. He was referring to a bastard sword my PC had found and stated that "Buh-Starred" was the original pronunciation. They also say "Leak" for Lich.
Well if he claims to be using the original pronunciation for buhstarred ...
The bastard sword, or contemporary espée bastarde, is a type of sword dating from roughly the early 15th century. It received its name for fitting into neither the one-handed sword family, nor the "two handed sword family", thus being labelled a "bastard."[Origin: 1250–1300; ME < AF bastard, ML bastardus (from 11th century), perh. < Gmc (Ingvaeonic) *bâst-, presumed var. of *bôst- marriage + OF -ard -ard, taken as signifying the offspring of a polygynous marriage to a woman of lower status, a pagan tradition not sanctioned by the church; cf. OFris bost marriage < Gmc *bandstu-, a n. deriv. of IE *bhendh- bind; the traditional explanation of OF bastard as deriv. of fils de bast “child of a packsaddle” is doubtful on chronological and geographical grounds]
So the original pronunciation of Bastard seems to be Bastard
3. In college I was shown (in old dictionaries nonetheless) the pronunciation for bastard (when referring to swords) as buh-stard.
Ahh-well I could be wrong though :)
Further...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lich
–noun British Obsolete
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
\Lich\ (l[i^]ch), n. [AS. l[=i]c body. See Like, a.]
A dead body; a corpse. [Obs.]
In Roman Catholicism or the Church of England, the "lychgate" is a covered area at the entrance to the cemetery where the casket awaits the clergy before proceeding into the cemetery for proper burial, "lych" being a word meaning body or corpse derived from Old English.
(According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychgate)
A lychgate, also spelled lichgate, lycugate, or as two separate words, (from Old English lic, corpse) is a gateway covered with a roof found at the traditional entrance to a (British) churchyard.
The word lych entered into composition constantly in Saxon, thus, lych bell, the hand-bell rung before a corpse; lych way, the path along which a corpse was carried to burial (this in some districts was supposed to establish a right-of-way); lych owl, the screech owl, because its cry was a portent of death; and lyke-wake, a night watch over a corpse (see Lyke-Wake Dirge).
Lastly LICH is the Long Island College Hospital :)
Just for your sake, seems like he is either misinformed or just making stuff up to defend his position. I would hope the former. Or perhaps I am wrong, personally I would start calling the sword a claymore rather than a buh-starred sword.
At any rate it seems that if Buhstarred is the original he could at least stick with the original of Lich which seems to be lic, which would be better than 'Leek'
And Drow rhymes with Bow no matter how you look at it.
"All bastards is bastards but some bastards is Bastards"
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Well just today I heard someone say something that I've had to endure since David Bowie wore a Tina Turner wig and tightpantsed his past past muppets.
Labbernith.
It's pronounced lab-uh-rinth.
And one of my regular DM in 1980 was a guy named Paul Barret who said pissonics instead of sci-onics, org, instead of oh-grr, and orc jelly instead of oke-rr.
But I mispronounced a few billion words myself. That's what lernin' be fer.
We have a couple of guys in our group that seem to be much like your DM.
Patrick's kind of a different animal (he once stared at a lava lamp for close to an hour).
For example, one time, he was acting as the guy 'recording' everything that was going on in the proto-version of Dirk Gently's Amahra setting. He transcribed "Blessed is the Dark Lord, the Creator, Tenma" as "Bessed is a Dark Ord, the Crater, Temma." He got razzed. Badly.
Even worse is Alex (AWED on Paizo). He once stated that an NPC was "wearing all black, but none of his clothes matched." He also used to make the 'brassiers' and 'Pissonics' mistakes quite frequently.
I am also reminded of a high school history teacher I had once that insisted 'Bushido' was pronounced 'Booda-show,' and pronounced 'Daimyo' as 'Domino.' He was a moron.
It's spelled "brassiere."
Before they added the 'br' the assiere used to hold up saggy butts. We've come so far so quickly with clothing technology. What could possibly next?
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It's spelled "brassiere."Before they added the 'br' the assiere used to hold up saggy butts. We've come so far so quickly with clothing technology. What could possibly next?
So does that mean that brassieres are used to hold up brass? I wasn't aware that they were part of a military officer's uniform. I thought that an officer could get court martialed for wearing one of those! Times have changed...
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So does that mean that brassieres are used to hold up brass? I wasn't aware that they were part of a military officer's uniform. I thought that an officer could get court martialed for wearing one of those! Times have changed...It's spelled "brassiere."Before they added the 'br' the assiere used to hold up saggy butts. We've come so far so quickly with clothing technology. What could possibly next?
But the FEMALE officers can!!! I know. it's messed up.
I'm gonna go to the Dairy Queen Brazier store and buy a dilly bar.
Dairy Queen BrazierDon't those hold up Dairy Queens? Wait, no... that's a robber. Right.
Ooo, that was good!
We have a couple of guys in our group that seem to be much like your DM.Patrick's kind of a different animal (he once stared at a lava lamp for close to an hour).
For example, one time, he was acting as the guy 'recording' everything that was going on in the proto-version of Dirk Gently's Amahra setting. He transcribed "Blessed is the Dark Lord, the Creator, Tenma" as "Bessed is a Dark Ord, the Crater, Temma." He got razzed. Badly.
Even worse is Alex (AWED on Paizo). He once stated that an NPC was "wearing all black, but none of his clothes matched." He also used to make the 'brassiers' and 'Pissonics' mistakes quite frequently.
I am also reminded of a high school history teacher I had once that insisted 'Bushido' was pronounced 'Booda-show,' and pronounced 'Daimyo' as 'Domino.' He was a moron.
Such mispronunciations are the spice of life.
As Sam Weiss pointed out, there's the whole golem/gollum example. I used to say gollum even after having a golem article published in Dragon. Derr.
Booda-show and Domino? That's just dumb.
Dragon Compendium... official pronounciations to most of them.
But how do you pronounce Dragon Compendium?
Golem
Pronounced go+lem, not gollum.
The first is a magical construct, the second a scuzzy thing that steals your ring of power.
Completely different!
Out of all the awful mispronounciations we've covered here, this is hands down the most common I've run across over the years.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that every last one of my players (ten people across two groups) pronounced that word wrong until recently. I had opportunity to school each group once, within about a month of each other. I was in awe -- out of almost a dozen people, all of whom I considered intelligent, informed individuals, only I knew the correct pronounciation.
To be fair, outside of D&D, it's actually a pretty obscure word, originating in Jewish lore.
Little known fact -- the somewhat cheesy 1980's horror fantasy, The Keep, starring Scott Glenn, Jurgen Prochnow, and Sir Ian McKellan?
Movie about a golem.
I am also reminded of a high school history teacher I had once that insisted 'Bushido' was pronounced 'Booda-show,' and pronounced 'Daimyo' as 'Domino.' He was a moron.
I have several good friends who (I learned while plaic Magic games) pronounce the word "oubliette" as OB-a-let.
I'm pretty sure all of them have seen the movie Labyirnth, where you can hear the word pronounced correctly.
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To be fair, outside of D&D, it's actually a pretty obscure word, originating in Jewish lore.
Yes, I know.
And barring a few random pre-Christian demons that are generally shared in Middle Eastern folklore, it is pretty much the only creature in D&D from Jewish lore.It has to be pronounced properly!
:)
Other Golem Trivia
A golem appears in the Books of Magic comic series.
Okay,
AZ-MO-DEE-US
or
AZ MO DAY' US
The second is correct but how many, even knowing this, will pronounce it this way?
-W. E. Ray
Not me. It's "Az-MODE-ee-us" to me and it's stayin' that way! "Az-mo-DAY-us" sounds too much like Mozart's first name.
Asmodeus, Asmodeus
Damn me, Asmodeus...
::Falco rolls over in his grave::
AZ-MO-DEE-US
or
AZ MO DAY' US
The second is correct but how many, even knowing this, will pronounce it this way?
I can't not pronounce it that way. It's the correct way to pronounce it. The first way sounds ridiculous to me, like a pokemon, or a small time comic book villain.
Not the name of a D&D monster, but anybody want to take a shot at the correct pronounciation of "Ozymandias"?
Here's one that I always do that drives one of my players absolutely crazy (since she plays a necromancer). For some reason I pronounce necropolis, necrinonmicon, and necrophidius all correctly (as in the first part sounds like 'neck'), but I pronounce necromancer and necromancy like 'nee-crow-mansie'.
I know its wrong but I just find it so hard to give up. Does anyone else pronounce it this way (I don't want to be the only one).
I do now.
Yes! If enough people convert my player's head will explode :)
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I pronounce necromancer and necromancy like 'nee-crow-mansie'.Someone at a Vampire LARP I used to go to pretty often pronounced 'necromancy' like that. Made my soul cringe. Finally, one day I showed up with a hacksaw and a garbage bag and that was the end of that.
My friend Pat (y'know, the "Dark Ord a Crater" guy) pretty consistently pronounced it as 'nickermancer' for the first few years that he played D&D. Then he stopped, for some reason.
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My friend Pat (y'know, the "Dark Ord a Crater" guy) pretty consistently pronounced it as 'nickermancer' for the first few years that he played D&D. Then he stopped, for some reason.
Hehe. My wife is a 'knickermancer.' She can make my knickers rise from the......
....nevermind. :)
Turnabout is fair play; he made Amadeus roll over in HIs grave.Asmodeus, Asmodeus
Damn me, Asmodeus...::Falco rolls over in his grave::
You are wise. That was a bit of a crime, wasn't it?
Not the name of a D&D monster, but anybody want to take a shot at the correct pronounciation of "Ozymandias"?
It seems that there's no reason to be able to pronounce that one unless you read the Watchmen or teach Shelley.
Wait, that's me.
AH-zee-MAN-dee-us is the most common pronunciation.
AHZ-mahn-DEE-us or ahz-MAHN-DEE-us (second syllable is long) sounds smooth and more mysterious. And dropping a letter from the pronunciation of a poly syllabic word is always a good way to add some faux sophisitication to your Shelley and Moore expertise.
Or pick your own pronunciation. The title is given to a long dead power, and with all dead languages, whoever sounds the coolest when he says it gets the best press. Who cares if he's right.
It seems that there's no reason to be able to pronounce that one unless you read the Watchmen or teach Shelly.
Wait, that's me.
Which? Watchmen reader, Shelly teacher, or both?
How do you pronounce Bysshe?
I always said Bish. But it may be Bye-sh. You've got me curious for an official answer.
I have never had anyone tell me they knew authoritatively how to pronounce Bysshe. I say BYE-sh.
I teach Shelley, but I can't keep a straight face when I say his name, and it's not just the middle name.
Online (interesting):
Bysshe rhymes with fishy.
Bysshe's initial phoneme is the same as in bicycle.
and those posted here.
Online (interesting):
Bysshe rhymes with fishy.
Bysshe's initial phoneme is the same as in bicycle.
and those posted here.
Does that last part suggest Bye-she?
Perc-ee Bish-ee Shell-ee?
That just doesn't sound good-ee.
BYE-ss
BYE-ss
Ah! Thank you, sir. Now I be much smarter. :)
which syllable of Pelor is emphasized?
which syllable of Pelor is emphasized?
Ask Fonzie.
AYYYYYYYYYYY!
I rhyme him with 'say more'
Is this thread "jumping the shark?"
Fonzie in shorts. What a move.