Thank you for the best years of Dragon and Dungeon


Dragon and Dungeon Transition Discussion

Grand Lodge

I have to admit that the announcement has saddened me. I remember when picked up my first issue of Dragon (#34) and said "Wow!"

Then, over the years there was no more wow.

Then along came Paizo. And Dragon breathed a new fire into the game at last. And for the first time I decided a subsciption to Dungeon was in order.

I have watched the release of 3.0 spark new interest in the game, then the horrible decision to revamp it it with a neutering 3.5 (a huge mistake by WizCo, in my opinion).

But while WizCo was producing products of lesser value, each issue of Dragon and Dungeon increased the value of the line. In my opinion, D&D would have stagnated into a pool of green slime, if it was not for Paizo's careful development of the magazines.

And now they are dead. Yes I know they will go to an online format. But let's face it. Dragon and Dungeon magazines are now dead. Let us just hope that WizCo, or SOMEONE steps in to produce something to keep the spirit alive (High hopes and expectations for Pathfinder).

That being said, I have one more statement to make. In the long history of D&D there are three names that stand out above all others. Gary Gygax, Monte Cook, and yes by golly I will say it, Erik Mona! There are dozens of others worthy of mention, but these three individuals have defined D&D better than anyone else.

Gary and Dave Arneson created our beloved hobby and to them we owe it all.

Monte and Skip and others breathed new life into a dying game. To them we owe much.

And then there is Erik... After the owners of the D&D name let the line decline, his vision of the magazines led to a new format that kept it all from decaying into the cesspool that 2nd Edition eventually fell.

And in conclusion, I want to thank the folks of Paizo for creating the BEST YEARS of Dragon and Dungeon Magazines. You did not let them fade quietly into the good night, but roused them to the best that they could be.


Indeed, thanks guys.

Here's looking at you, Erik.


Yup yup. It was the quality I was seeing in the earlier web supplements that convinced me I had to get a subscription to Dungeon for Savage Tide, and I haven't been disappointed yet (Well, there is the fact that I want to run the adventures from each new issue now instead of the X months down the road it'll take me to get to that adventure.) Paizo puts out solid products, and I'm sad to see Dragon and Dungeon leaving their more than capable hands.


In the past, prior to Paizo taking over Dragon and Dungeon, I had never had a subscription. After seeing how awesome the adventure paths were and how dedictated Erik and his staff were, I decided I couldn't miss an issue.

So naturally it's a no brainer that I transferred over my account for the month to month basis.

Looking forward to the Pathfinder!! Although I will miss Dungeon and Dragon (rolled my first character in 1979), I consider myself lucky to have been a part of it's heyday.

Grand Lodge

And just to throw in my biggest COMPLAINT about Paizo... too much darn good stuff. Hey there's only so much I can work into one campaign and only so many adventures I can really run.

Maybe that is a partial reason behind the change. Paizo was doing TOO good of a job!


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So, filling out my back issues quotient just now as the final step in my "transition," all the sadness I felt in April 20th has returned.

I've been playing DnD since the late 80s and had Dragon subscriptions on and off since then. But the mags under the helm of Paizo are what I consider to be the "golden years." After years of shifting content and trials and errors, Mona and crew managed to pull the magazines into a cohesive collection worth having a steady subscription to.

Pathfinder would have hit my wallet a little too hard, so I won't be along for that journey, but I still look forward to future Gamemastery products and such that Paizo will be offering.

Thanks so much, staffs of Dungeon and Dragon. I'll miss the monthly contributions to my game. A lot.


As a player of Dungeons and Dragons before it was called that (Original Name was Chainmail around about 1975). I have seen the coming and goings of many supplements. But the loss of these two great mags will leave a hole that will be hard to fill. I have read the magazines on and off since issue #1 for both. I hope that something will come along to fill the space left behind.
Paizo has done a great job and Kudos to all that have been on the staff of bothe of the mags.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Thanks, guys. It's been an honor.

Onward!

--Erik

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