#141: A critter in every pot


Dungeon Magazine General Discussion

Liberty's Edge

So James Jacobs has the job, he doesn't have to get elected or anything. So what's he do? He promises a new monster in every Dungeon magazine.
(sniff)...thankyou...thankyou... (leaves before his unwolfmanlike blubbering causes too much undue embarrassment...)


<starts misting up too>

I was thrilled when I read that as well. I was so disappointed at the lack of updated creatures (and creatures in general) in the MMIV that I'm thrilled to see Paizo stepping up to fill the void. :)


This was both good and bad news for me. On one hand, YAY! On the other hand...I don't subscribe to Dungeon!

I'll have to get a subscription as soon as I get a hold of the money... :)


Sorry, but I wasn't nearly so thrilled with the esteemed Mr. Jacob's announcement. I only recently began a subscription to Dragon (been a Dungeon fan from the beginning). One of the reasons I originally abandoned Dragon was out of disgust for the ridiculous glut of new monsters, new spells, and new magical sh-..er, stuff. But better it have a home in Dragon than to take up valuable adventuring space in my beloved Dungeon. I've been playing D&D for over almost three decades and haven't tired of the "classics". While I admit that the living shipwreck was playable and interesting, not nearly the "ugh!" I expected it to be, good authors of the Dungeon adventures should (and almost always do) include new monsters or interesting variations/development of existing ones. That is more than enough for me. The prospect of even more page space going to such worthless frivolity leaves me cold.


Hm . . . I've been reading Dragon for a long time, and I'm hard pressed to remember a time when it didn't have new spells, monsters, and magic items on a fairly regular basis. Heck, even before the current 3.5 mindset, even as far back as 1st edition, it had alternate classes too . . . but monsters have always been a staple, and in fact, monsters from Dragon have often become a staple of what is considered the "norm" in D&D after a few years . . .


Lady Aurora wrote:
The prospect of even more page space going to such worthless frivolity leaves me cold.

Uh, I was under the impression that the Wandering Monster feature is part of the CW section of the magazine, and if anything it would take up a CW slot each issue instead of taking away from the adventure section.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

The Wandering Monster is indeed part of the Campaign Workbook. It's not "robbing adventure content" at all, and there won't be a Wandering Monster in every issue (there'll still be a new monster in every issue, though). As for the old classics, many of the Wandering Monsters won't be new monsters at all, but updated monsters like the slithering tracker.


I think the Living Shipwreck was a great monster idea, and I'm glad this new column is taking over Monte's spot. His advice was pretty good, but it was getting a little stale after so many episodes. Please encourage new and original monsters in this section rather than just variations or reprints of old monsters.

Contributor

Who said this new column was taking over Monte Cook's Dungeoncraft column? I haven't had a chance to look at 141 yet (though I did see Monte's column in it). Is this said somewhere in the issue?


Actually I beleive Wolfgang Baur is taking over Monte's column, if I remember correctly.


Sorry, I misread that. Dungeoncraft is staying but is being written by Wolfgang Baur. I conflated the two events.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Wandering Monsters isn't replacing anything. It's an addition to the Campaign Workbook, which has other sections (The City, The Cast, The Journey, The Dungeon, and Critical Threat).

Dungeoncraft returns in issue #143 with Wolfgang Baur at the helm.


Krypter wrote:
Sorry, I misread that. Dungeoncraft is staying but is being written by Wolfgang Baur. I conflated the two events.

Sweet. Monte is great, but Wolfgang Baur is awesome. I definitely need to subscribe to Dungeon. :D


What happened to Monte? I hope he's OK!


Just a question, if Wandering Monster is part of the Campaign Workbook, we can submit monsters, correct?

I have a lot of stand alone monsters that I can't sumbit to Dragon since they are merely one monster and not a group of them.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

MaxSlasher26 wrote:

Just a question, if Wandering Monster is part of the Campaign Workbook, we can submit monsters, correct?

I have a lot of stand alone monsters that I can't sumbit to Dragon since they are merely one monster and not a group of them.

Yes, we are indeed looking for wandering monsters for Dungeon. Submit them using the existing ones as guidelines (1,250 words please.).

Liberty's Edge

Cry havoc, and release the dogs of war!
Let the wild rumpus begin!
It's just a grey render, man.


Sorry it took me a while to reply to you KnightErrantJR, but let me just clarify. I didn't return to Dragon because it had stopped or even significantly pared down on what I early described as a "glut of new monsters, spells..." etc. I returned partly because I had found myself picking up stray issues for good articles at my FLGS and partly because I was hungry for details on AoW found in the Wormfood articles (and now continued in Savage Tidings). I was impressed by what I consider a marked increase in the quality of the magazine in the last couple years (good job, Mr. Mona!). Anyway, that's the reason I subscribed to Dragon recently.
I apologize for the brain cramp regarding the new wandering monster information as being part of the CW and not impinging on adventure space, as was clearly explained in the editorial. Still, I maintain my opinion that such information already has a comfy niche over in Dragon and I'd prefer it *didn't* wander over into Dungeon. Just my opinion, of course.

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