Can the info on who is next up for the Demonomicon be revealed? The article on Dagon was fantastic by the way :)
Hmm... Obox-ob or Pale Night would be pretty cool. Malcanthet? Probably a bit to 'mature' in content for general reading...
Maybe Juiblex?
they're not going to say, until it gets broken by some other source. :)
my theory? Graz'zt or Orcus. Demogorgon is being saved til' the next one following, IMO. :)
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In the recent Expedition to Castle Ravenloft release they made mention of a demon lord named Chernovog (my spelling might be off). He wasn't in the Fiendish Codex, but it would be cool if they did a Demonomicon article on him. I've read about that particular name before, but always associated with Russian/Slavic Mythology.
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Can the info on who is next up for the Demonomicon be revealed? The article on Dagon was fantastic by the way :)
If I were a betting man, I would put money on Shami-Amourae (Queen of the Succubi) next because of her involvement in the Savage Tide. The one after that is almost certainly going to be Demogorgon as it was confirmed in the letters section of Dragon 347 that a Demonomicon article on Demogorgon would be done to go with the STAP. So for that to happen, they will need to do him in one of the next to Demonomicon articles. JMHO, but we shall see.
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In the recent Expedition to Castle Ravenloft release they made mention of a demon lord named Chernovog (my spelling might be off). He wasn't in the Fiendish Codex, but it would be cool if they did a Demonomicon article on him. I've read about that particular name before, but always associated with Russian/Slavic Mythology.
I haven't picked up Ravenloft, but it was probably a reference to a demon based on a character from Slavic tradition named Czernobog. (and he's a neat character in Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods')
My guess is that since Koshchei has recently been detailed, they will veer away from the Russo/Finnish/Slavic flavor for the next couple of articles.
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In the recent Expedition to Castle Ravenloft release they made mention of a demon lord named Chernovog (my spelling might be off). He wasn't in the Fiendish Codex, but it would be cool if they did a Demonomicon article on him. I've read about that particular name before, but always associated with Russian/Slavic Mythology.I haven't picked up Ravenloft, but it was probably a reference to a demon based on a character from Slavic tradition named Czernobog. (and he's a neat character in Neil Gaiman's 'American Gods')
My guess is that since Koshchei has recently been detailed, they will veer away from the Russo/Finnish/Slavic flavor for the next couple of articles.
Czernobog/Chernovog are roughly the same person. Different spellings depending on which worshippers you are talking about.
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I would love to see demonlords that are not covered in FCI. Still seems somewhat of a cheap move to use the demons already covered instead of giving new demonlords. Yes, the articles differ a little bit, but it's still buying the same things twice.
I completely disagree. Because of the constraints of space, it just wasn't possible to fit in all the information about the Demonlords that they wanted to. The Demonomicon articles add tons of added value to the lords presented in FCI. In that respect, I think it is money well spent. The background info provided along with Thralls, followers etc., gives me tons of tools to flesh out my campaign that weren't present in FCI at all. That is as it should be. Think of the FCI as the "Monster Manual" of demons, and the Demonomicon articles the "Everything else" articles about the Demon Lords. These articles along with the AP support articles are the primary reason I felt compelled to subscribe to Dragon when I subscribed to Dungeon. They are amongst the most awesome articles ever to appear in Dragon. Doing them on Demon Lords written in FCI makes sense to fill in the gaps that book couldn't get to. I have absolutely no problem with that, and quite to the contrary I am immensely grateful they are taking space in Dragon to cover the Demon Lords from FCI.
I would love to see demonlords that are not covered in FCI. Still seems somewhat of a cheap move to use the demons already covered instead of giving new demonlords. Yes, the articles differ a little bit, but it's still buying the same things twice.
Hardly. The Fiendish Codex entries aren't nearly as deep as the Demonomicon articles. Not only do the Demonomicon articles describe each Demon Lord in more depth, they offer a cultist prestige class, advanced versions of the stats found in the FC, an aspect (different from the versions found in the Miniature's Handbook or the FC Web Enhancement), information on a demon lord's cult on the prime material, sample minions and heralds... it's like saying that the Core Beliefs articles are like buying the description chapter of the PH over again.
Probably a bit too 'mature' in content for general reading...That shounds like a challenge!
Shounds? James, drinking and succubi don't mix!
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Wait...
Think of the FCI as the "Monster Manual" of demons, and the Demonomicon articles the "Everything else" articles about the Demon Lords.In thise case it's still wasted money, only with the FCI being the waste, as Dragon has stats too.
Except for the Dragon stats are generally highly epic, whereas the FC stats are in the 21-23 range, perfect for use as a 20th level end game villain. Also, the FC has the planes the lords are from described, for when the heroes want to take the fight to the demon, instead of the other way around.
These articles along with the AP support articles are the primary reason I felt compelled to subscribe to Dragon when I subscribed to Dungeon. They are amongst the most awesome articles ever to appear in Dragon.They would be just as awesome about new demons. I believe the first article about Lupercio or Lynkhab would be even more awesome than the 20th article about Orcus.
What's the last article written in Dragon about Orcus? His wand might be mentioned from time to time, and there was the Fiendish Footprint adventure (in Dungeon, mind - and not everyone gets both magazines) - but those were just teasers for the real thing. When I run a group of players through the Fiendish Footprint, I want to be able to sick a bunch of Orcus cultists on them when they destroy the artifact, then follow it up with one of Orcus's personal heralds, before bringing in the big baddie himself.
I'm not saying a Demonimicon about a previously unmentioned Demon Lord wouldn't be pretty cool - but so is one on a Demon Lord that I, as someone who never played 1st edition, and never got a chance to play any of the cool modules that made that Demon Lord a legend, have never really known too much about. "Well, uh, Orcus has this wand thingy and he likes undead (I think) and he looks kind of like Ganon..." is about all I know about Orcus (well, that's not true any more, especially since I have the FC), and I'd like to know more about him and how he interacts with the Prime. That's what the Demonomicon articles are about.
Do I sound a bit rambly? Gah, need sleep.
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Think of the FCI as the "Monster Manual" of demons, and the Demonomicon articles the "Everything else" articles about the Demon Lords.In thise case it's still wasted money, only with the FCI being the waste, as Dragon has stats too.
These articles along with the AP support articles are the primary reason I felt compelled to subscribe to Dragon when I subscribed to Dungeon. They are amongst the most awesome articles ever to appear in Dragon.They would be just as awesome about new demons. I believe the first article about Lupercio or Lynkhab would be even more awesome than the 20th article about Orcus.
I think we will have to agree to disagree. I personally hope they hit all the Demon Lords in FCI with Demonomicon articles before they start on the more obscure ones. For me the ones listed are all I will likely tap for my games anyway. While I am certain articles on Lupercio or whoever will be good when they get around to writing them, the others have more immediate use to me. To each his own. I consider both well worth the money and will spend accordingly. If you disagree, you can spend your resources accordingly. Personally I think they are both indispensible and would be among the first things I would save if I had to pick things in my D&D collection to save from a fire.
actually, that's 3 per year... once every 4 months.
The speculation here is great but the question remains unanswered... Can the next subject be revealed? Maybe?
On a somewhat related topic, could someone tell me the issue numbers of all the Dragons that have the Demononicon in them? I only have the most recent two. Thanks.
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On a somewhat related topic, could someone tell me the issue numbers of all the Dragons that have the Demononicon in them? I only have the most recent two. Thanks.
That I can help you with. The Demonomicon articles thus far have been.
Pazuzu Demon Prince of the Lower Aerial Kingdoms Dragon #329
Fraz Urb'luu Demon Prince of Deception Dragon #333
Zuggtmoy Demon Queen of Fungi Dragon #337
Baphomet Demon Prince of Beasts Dragon #341
Kostchtie Demon Prince of Wrath Dragon #345
Dagon Demon Prince of the Darkened Depths Dragon #349
There was also an article on spells of the Demonomicon in Dragon #336. That particular article tied into the series by talking about the book itself and some of the unique spells therein. The first one to be made using advancement rules from the FCI was Kostchtie. All the rest from now on should be built that way.
Also, the Ebon Maw had a very Demonomicon style article in Dragon #312 which had him statted out along with some of the info that is typical for a Demonomicon article, although the first "true" Demonomicon article was Pazuzu in #329.
Hope that helps. All of them are awesome.
Thank you kindly. They are awesome.