Anything juicy about Nantambu or the Magaambya?
One of my favorite details is kids doing informal boats races in the canals, like how suburban kids play hockey/basketball/soccer in cul de sacs with trash cans as goal posts or whatever. Adorable!
Maybe I missed it, as I'm just now tearing through the book... how do conrasu speak? I see no mouth so is it just a nebulous voice floating from within or something?
I personally think this book is as rich and detailed as some entire RPG settings. Yes, Pathfinder "only" has one world, but each of the 10 meta-regions presented in the CRB, not to mention the areas beyond, hold enough to support entire campaigns. What do you think?I mean, technically it has 11 worlds (not counting the Sun or distant planets), as well as like 20 something major planes; all of which I would love to see more expansive coverage and lore for.
But I digress. I cannot wait to see how other books similar to this one will do in the future.
I'm bit confused of where you get 20 major planets though, like there are like 11 planets in solar system(with several of them being gas giants with dozens of minor moon civilizations) and other ones I can think of aren't really major (Kasath, Droffa/Androffa, Earth), or did ye count most important of the moons as well?
(either way, yeah technically speaking you could do entire campaign in any of the planes if you wanted to. They would be really different and out there campaigns, but nothing technically makes level 1-20 fire plane campaign impossible)
All of the Outer Planes (for which there are 10, if you include the Astral Plane); the Inner Planes (9, if you don't count the Material), and I threw in the Dimensions of Dreams and Time. So, 21 major planes (and dimensions), ripe for full adventures. No reason any of them have to be left only as places to visit. All sorts of things go on within these various locals and amongst those that call it home. Perhaps one day, we could see an adventure that helps remove the Efreeti Dominion of Flame from its seat of power in the Plane of Fire.
And no, I didn't count moons, or anything outside of Golarion's immediate Star System (which I like to call Mother's Embrace, since the Sun is called the Burning Mother on Castrovel).
But, more on topic (while also being relatable to my previous topic): does this book touch on Akiton or the Doorway to the Red Star at all? I have to wait a few more days until I can secure my copy, unfortunately.
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I’m a bit curious about the grippli. Would you be so kind as to shed some light on the froggie folk?
They get a feat to jump on people's heads.
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So... did we just find out the name of an upcoming class? Zazirele, Telandia's fiancé, is listed as a 14th level guardian (pg. 38). I checked back at Telandia's writeup in Legends, and he was listed as a guardian there as well. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now... I could be grasping at straws, but my gut tells me that I'm on to something. If I am correct, then I greatly appreciate how Paizo drops hints for upcoming material in their books. It shows that they're thinking ahead.
Oh, and I absolutely love the book so far!
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So... did we just find out the name of an upcoming class? Zazirele, Telandia's fiancé, is listed as a 14th level guardian (pg. 38). I checked back at Telandia's writeup in Legends, and he was listed as a guardian there as well. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now... I could be grasping at straws, but my gut tells me that I'm on to something. If I am correct, then I greatly appreciate how Paizo drops hints for upcoming material in their books. It shows that they're thinking ahead.
Oh, and I absolutely love the book so far!
Several NPCs have levels in nonexistent classes in 2e.
Several NPCs have levels in nonexistent classes in 2e.So... did we just find out the name of an upcoming class? Zazirele, Telandia's fiancé, is listed as a 14th level guardian (pg. 38). I checked back at Telandia's writeup in Legends, and he was listed as a guardian there as well. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now... I could be grasping at straws, but my gut tells me that I'm on to something. If I am correct, then I greatly appreciate how Paizo drops hints for upcoming material in their books. It shows that they're thinking ahead.
Oh, and I absolutely love the book so far!
Such as...?
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I think they started calling them "guardian", "scientist" etc rather than giving them actual classes in PF 2e. I've noticed that in other Lost Omens books too.
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When presenting micro stat blocks (things like "N male human wizard"), rather than always give the NPC a class, we give them a role. A lot of the time, these roles do map directly to an existing class, but other times it's something else entirely. The role is there to give you a quick understanding of what kind of character they are and what abilities come with the role.
Let's a look at a few micro stat blocks from Lost Omens Legends for some examples.
Sihar, leader of the Bright Lions is listed as "LG Female Human Fighter." That's easy enough to figure out. If you needed to use Sihar as an NPC, you could probably just look at the fighter class to determine some of her abilities.
Within that same entry, we have three other NPCs. One is Sewell who is noted to be a "N female human rebel general." 'Rebel general' isn't a class, so this could be represented in a number of ways. Sewell could be a fighter, but maybe she's got some abilities from the marshal archetype. She could also have brand new abilities that don't come from any class. The important thing is knowing that Sewell is the leader of a rebellion. That might come with leadership-focused abilities, infiltration abilities, or strong combat abilities. Sewell can be whatever type of 'rebel general' you feel works best for your games and your stories.
The other NPCs from that same section include Azeeko (LG male human cook) and Xor Beaninch (CG nonbinary halfling scout). I think both of these characters could be represented in a number of ways. That's the fun and freedom of using a role over a strict class.
In the case of Zazirele, 'guardian' is just another role that notes he is probably focused on defense and protecting others. All that is to say, 'guardian' isn't a preview of a class. It's just a shortcut to determine how you might use Zazirele in your game.
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Luis Loza confirms culinary focused rulebook coming out with playtestable Cook class.
(If you Multiclass into Cook does that make you a Sous Chef?)
I don't think Cook should be a class. It should totally be a research field/subclass of the Alchemist. ;)
Wait a minute... doesn't the Toxicologist already fulfill that role? ;p
-Religion (Multiple Gods with a full page layout and avatar form, and "other gods" with smaller entries in the back)
Could anyone elaborate on this section?
How many gods are there and what's their names and title? Which of them got a full page and avatar form?
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Do grippli have automatic climb speed/a heritage that gives them climb speed? any other ancestries have more speeds than just land?
There is a grippli heritage that improves Climb check results from success to critical success, but no Climb speed.
No special movement speeds for any ancestries by default, but there are ancestry feats granting special movement types.
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-Religion (Multiple Gods with a full page layout and avatar form, and "other gods" with smaller entries in the back)
Could anyone elaborate on this section?
How many gods are there and what's their names and title? Which of them got a full page and avatar form?
All of the below have a full page dedicated to them, with illustration and an avatar section.
Adanye, the Warmth of the Hearth
Angazhan, the Ravenous King
Balumbdar, the World-Shaker
Chohar, the Golden Lion
Grandmother Spider, the Weaver
Kalekot, the Winnower
Lubaiko, the Spark in the DUst
Luhar, the Setting Sun
Mazludeh, Mother of Hearth and Wall
Tlehar, the Rising Sun
Uvuko, the Diamond Ring
Walkena, the God-King
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The gods section is fantastic, pretty much everyone one of them made me want to make a character who follows them.
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I still have to read all closely, but I think I really like Lubaiko based on the quick skim.
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All of this sounds great, it’s getting tougher to wait for my subscription to ship XD
It's weird that you can get a climb speed through a lizard folk heritage (Gecko's Grip) but not as a Grippli.Do grippli have automatic climb speed/a heritage that gives them climb speed? any other ancestries have more speeds than just land?There is a grippli heritage that improves Climb check results from success to critical success, but no Climb speed.
No special movement speeds for any ancestries by default, but there are ancestry feats granting special movement types.
I imagine we will get one in a future supplement. Probably something akin to Ancestry Guide 2.
Oh! On the heritage bit, is there one that makes a grippli a poison dart frog?
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It's weird that you can get a climb speed through a lizard folk heritage (Gecko's Grip) but not as a Grippli.Do grippli have automatic climb speed/a heritage that gives them climb speed? any other ancestries have more speeds than just land?There is a grippli heritage that improves Climb check results from success to critical success, but no Climb speed.
No special movement speeds for any ancestries by default, but there are ancestry feats granting special movement types.
I imagine we will get one in a future supplement. Probably something akin to Ancestry Guide 2.
Oh! On the heritage bit, is there one that makes a grippli a poison dart frog?
yep!
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There’s a tiny mention of a gnoll hoping to found a gnoll nation opposed to slavery and I’m SO keen on it.
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There’s a tiny mention of a gnoll hoping to found a gnoll nation opposed to slavery and I’m SO keen on it.Is she that one opposing certain individual in Katapesh(mentioned also in Lost Omen Legends and certain 1e article) or completely new character?
Totally different!
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Any chance we see a blog post crediting the writers for their sections, the way LOAG had? I’m blown away and want to direct my praise appropriately!
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Any chance we see a blog post crediting the writers for their sections, the way LOAG had? I’m blown away and want to direct my praise appropriately!
Yes, but given the book doesn't actually come out until about two weeks from now, it will be a small wait.
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Any chance we see a blog post crediting the writers for their sections, the way LOAG had? I’m blown away and want to direct my praise appropriately!Yes, but given the book doesn't actually come out until about two weeks from now, it will be a small wait.
No rush! Just glad to hear it’s happening - everyone did amazing work
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I got my PDF!
Anadi (rare ancestry) heritages were interesting. They are as follows:
Adaptive: Humanoid form is a common ancestry other than human, and you are considered to have Adopted Ancestry for it.
Polychromatic: A colorful dancer in all forms.
Snaring: Hooked fangs to grab prey.
Spindly: You move faster in all forms.
Venomous: Poison fangs.
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Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.
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Luis Loza confirms culinary focused rulebook coming out with playtestable Cook class.
(If you Multiclass into Cook does that make you a Sous Chef?)
If there really was a Golarion cookbook I'd buy that in an instant, even though I already have more fantasy recipes than real ones. :D
... and I think a "Chef" archetype with feats to buff the party with special meals would actually be a nice idea to add to the game. xD
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Luis Loza confirms culinary focused rulebook coming out with playtestable Cook class.
(If you Multiclass into Cook does that make you a Sous Chef?)
If there really was a Golarion cookbook I'd buy that in an instant, even though I already have more fantasy recipes than real ones. :D
... and I think a "Chef" archetype with feats to buff the party with special meals would actually be a nice idea to add to the game. xD
There’s a few IRL recipes in this book!
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Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.
Okay somebody's gotta tell me more about the goloma because this is the most monstrous ancestry we've gotten yet and I am here for it
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Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.Okay somebody's gotta tell me more about the goloma because this is the most monstrous ancestry we've gotten yet and I am here for it
Okay, their fixed boost is to wisdom; they have no ability flaw.
They have eight eyes, which they can use to Seek in two directions at once.
Heritages:
Farsight: Has low-light vision.
Frightful: Good at intimidation.
Insightful: Good at perception.
Vicious: Has claw natural attack.
Vigilant: Can cast Detect Magic at will and more easily detect magial traps.
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They have eight eyes, which they can use to Seek in two directions at once.Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.Okay somebody's gotta tell me more about the goloma because this is the most monstrous ancestry we've gotten yet and I am here for it
Eight big ones, then thousands of itty bitty ones in their hair!
Eight big ones, then thousands of itty bitty ones in their hair!They have eight eyes, which they can use to Seek in two directions at once.Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.Okay somebody's gotta tell me more about the goloma because this is the most monstrous ancestry we've gotten yet and I am here for it
For real?
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For real?Eight big ones, then thousands of itty bitty ones in their hair!They have eight eyes, which they can use to Seek in two directions at once.Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse Preview from How It's Played.Okay somebody's gotta tell me more about the goloma because this is the most monstrous ancestry we've gotten yet and I am here for it
Yes. Their "hair" is really more like scallop eye stalks, with little gelatinous eyes on the end of them. They wiggle around and squirm when they look at stuff. It's probably very moist and gross.
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More about Conrasu plz? Is there heritage that related to dex?
No, Conrasu are +Con, +Wis, -Cha; they're big trees, so I don't imagine them being all that dextrous. Heritages are about a greater connection to Axis, a shared healing option, one that helps with difficult terrain, one that gives natural armor (but not proficiency - maybe an error?), or learning a cantrip.
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Okay, so I have to ask: /where/ did Sweetbreath Gnolls come from? I can't think of any game lore or real mythology that could inspire it, and "pheromone breath" feels like such a wild deriction for a hyenafolk option.
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Okay, so I have to ask: /where/ did Sweetbreath Gnolls come from? I can't think of any game lore or real mythology that could inspire it, and "pheromone breath" feels like such a wild deriction for a hyenafolk option.
There was a note in the gnoll turnover on this.
“A widely believed story says that if you meet a [striped] hyena it rises up on its hindlegs and puts its forelegs on your shoulders. Then it breathes into your face and so hypnotizes you. You then have to follow it into its den where it sucks out your brain. The spell can only be broken if somebody meets you while following the hyena, makes a cut in your skin and spills some drops of your blood.”
-Status Survey and Conservation Action Plan: Hyenas, International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, 1998, pg. 96
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Okay, so I have to ask: /where/ did Sweetbreath Gnolls come from? I can't think of any game lore or real mythology that could inspire it, and "pheromone breath" feels like such a wild deriction for a hyenafolk option.There was a note in the gnoll turnover on this.
“A widely believed story says that if you meet a [striped] hyena it rises up on its hindlegs and puts its forelegs on your shoulders. Then it breathes into your face and so hypnotizes you. You then have to follow it into its den where it sucks out your brain. The spell can only be broken if somebody meets you while following the hyena, makes a cut in your skin and spills some drops of your blood.”
-Status Survey and Conservation Action Plan: Hyenas, International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, 1998, pg. 96
Thank you!!
one that gives natural armor (but not proficiency - maybe an error?),
I probably don't think they'd give proficiency for only Medium armor, even as a heritage option. Seems like that would break in places for Cloistered Clerics, Monks, Sorcerers, Wizards and Witches (classes only trained in unarmored defense, not light armor).
I mean, it was wild that Androids got Trained proficiency in simple and martial weapons with the Warrior heritage. So I guess the possibility is there. But personally, I don't reeeeeeally see it.
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Okay, so I have to ask: /where/ did Sweetbreath Gnolls come from? I can't think of any game lore or real mythology that could inspire it, and "pheromone breath" feels like such a wild deriction for a hyenafolk option.There was a note in the gnoll turnover on this.
“A widely believed story says that if you meet a [striped] hyena it rises up on its hindlegs and puts its forelegs on your shoulders. Then it breathes into your face and so hypnotizes you. You then have to follow it into its den where it sucks out your brain. The spell can only be broken if somebody meets you while following the hyena, makes a cut in your skin and spills some drops of your blood.”
-Status Survey and Conservation Action Plan: Hyenas, International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, 1998, pg. 96
For those interested, I found that study online. Chapter 10 documents lots of superstitions about hyenas.
Since nobody’s mentioned it, I gather not, but are there any archetypes or feats (other than ancestry) in this resource?
The lore alone is going to be plenty, but I don’t expect my shipping until the end of the cycle with the heatwave and am impatiently curious.
Since nobody’s mentioned it, I gather not, but are there any archetypes or feats (other than ancestry) in this resource?
The lore alone is going to be plenty, but I don’t expect my shipping until the end of the cycle with the heatwave and am impatiently curious.
I don’t believe so.
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Since nobody’s mentioned it, I gather not, but are there any archetypes or feats (other than ancestry) in this resource?
The lore alone is going to be plenty, but I don’t expect my shipping until the end of the cycle with the heatwave and am impatiently curious.
Like most Lost Omens books this one is more lore than rules, but at 300+ pages there are still a lot of feats, items, NPCs, languages, settlement stats, etc., often as sidebars.
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Thanks :)
Both of my Mwangi-originating PFS characters leveled this week, and I was wondering if I should hold off on starting anything with them until I got my PDF. #totallyselfish
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There are feats scattered throughout the book and there is also a Sorcerer Bloodline called, "Wyrmblessed", which is a Divine Tradition using the divine spell list. It grants abilities related to dragons, like the Draconic Bloodline. It even has the same Bloodline Spells (i.e. claws, breath, wings). But, it stems from the veneration and worship of dragons and/or the blessings of a celestial or draconic power placed upon one of your ancestors.