Well the side treks were only there for two APs, and I guess they didn't really work.
Has there been a statement anywhere that the fiction has actually been removed? or is this all just assumption because the no where near final blurb/image for the product dosent mention it?
No statement as far as I know. All this talk is entirely based on the lack of any mention of fiction in the nowhere near final product blurb.
My contribution to the discussion is merely my own personal preference to be rid of it. :)
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For the record, they've tried side treks a few different times, Iron Gods and Mummy's Mask more recently, Legacy of Fire, and I believe Second Darkness previously.
Personally, I didn't care for them so much in Iron Gods, but Mummy's Mask weren't bad.
I don't care one way or the other about the fiction, so I hope they keep it, for those that do care. :-)
Side treks are fine but I don't think they need them for every AP.
Now fiction! That they do need. :)
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Has there been a statement anywhere that the fiction has actually been removed? or is this all just assumption because the no where near final blurb/image for the product dosent mention it?No statement as far as I know. All this talk is entirely based on the lack of any mention of fiction in the nowhere near final product blurb.
My contribution to the discussion is merely my own personal preference to be rid of it. :)
Not mentioned in the description of this book 1
Not mentioned in the description of book 2 eitherI do not remember the Pathfinder Journal not mentioned in the early description of books in previous APs
I do remember posters regularly asking for APs without a Pathfinder Journal
Not mentioned in the description of this book 1
Not mentioned in the description of book 2 eitherI do not remember the Pathfinder Journal not mentioned in the early description of books in previous APs
I do remember posters regularly asking for APs without a Pathfinder Journal
Right, but we won't know for sure until a) the product description is updated to the final version, or b) Paizo makes a statement either way. Until then, it's all guesswork based on a non-final product description.
this AP sounds so great, I may not have been so exited since Kingmaker.
I can't wait to buy it
are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.
And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
The last 3-4 AP covers where absolutly not my taste (like tha last few APs)
I am sooo happy about this AP
It has been years since I have been this exited for some Pathfinder product.
are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
They are placeholders. The art you see on the covers is art from previous Pathfinder books, such as the Monster Codex.
Looking forward to this.
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"Generic" can be quite nice, especially after a number of APs that were less so. For me, it's always nice to see the old favorites get some air time along with things like high tech, evil PCs, horror adventures and the like.
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are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
The last 3-4 AP covers where absolutly not my taste (like tha last few APs)
I am sooo happy about this AP
These are just cover mockups. Our artists are still working on the final covers.
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Back on topic, sounds cool: do the heroes have to take down a dragon guarded bridge to slow the horde?
I am told this is a Red Hand of Doom reference. I have not read Red Hand of Doom, but James Jacobs did help write it (and outlined this AP), so there are likely going to be some similar themes.
And if you play your cards right, there is an opportunity to explode a bridge!
These are just cover mockups. Our artists are still working on the final covers.are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
The last 3-4 AP covers where absolutly not my taste (like tha last few APs)
I am sooo happy about this AP
Will there be fiction. :-)
Exploding bridge?!! Awesome. :) I had a bridge fall on my paladin in Wrath of the Righteous.
Now I think I'll have my paladin explode the bridge instead. ;)
It sounds like this installment is mainly taking place in Nirmathas,
I do wonder if other chapters will take place in Molthune "proper"...
For some reason, I want to see an encounter take place in that "empty city" built by crackpot Abadaran nobles,
just the idea of useless empty city blocks, maybe with left-over animated object construction machinery,
seems like a hilariously surreal backdrop for an encounter, maybe as coincidental battleground vs. BBEG forces.
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Back on topic, sounds cool: do the heroes have to take down a dragon guarded bridge to slow the horde?I am told this is a Red Hand of Doom reference. I have not read Red Hand of Doom, but James Jacobs did help write it (and outlined this AP), so there are likely going to be some similar themes.
And if you play your cards right, there is an opportunity to explode a bridge!
Explode - Report - Cooperate
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Explode - Report - Cooperate
Stop - Collaborate - Listen
*cheers for exploding bridges*
Will there be fiction. :-)These are just cover mockups. Our artists are still working on the final covers.are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
The last 3-4 AP covers where absolutly not my taste (like tha last few APs)
I am sooo happy about this AP
So, no answer on whether there will be no more fiction, or if it was an accidental omission. :-)
I think Crystal had more to worry about on her plate than answering that right off the bat, Captain.
You know, exploding bridges and stuff.
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That's what the reminder is for. :-)
Hm! Good point captain.
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So, no answer on whether there will be no more fiction, or if it was an accidental omission. :-)Will there be fiction. :-)These are just cover mockups. Our artists are still working on the final covers.are the cover pics the real once ?
they look to consistant between 1 and 2 to be placeholders.And they look amazing. Finally some good pics again, the last onces I liked where Serpent Skull (thecovers, not the AP).
The last 3-4 AP covers where absolutly not my taste (like tha last few APs)
I am sooo happy about this AP
Any answer on this (whether Yes or No) from a Paizonian would start a storm of nerdrage meaning more cleaning work for the mods
Sometimes Schrödinger is best
No idea who Schrodinger is, or was, but I think we, the people, deserve an answer on whether or not a constant staple of adventure paths will still be around.
If they're worried about the reaction (which I seriously doubt) then it's best to get it out of the way sooner rather than later, giving more time for a grieving process is always the best policy. :-)
And I seriously doubt people will burn it down if they don't get their way. :-)
I have all the AP-Issues and some "Pathfinder Tales"-books.
While I like the Tales books, I haven't read a single piece of those "Pathfinder Journals" in all the AP-Issues I read.
I wouldn't mind if they go the way of the dodo.
Wow, okay, this actually took me by surprise. I wasn't expecting an adventure path like this at all. (cracks knuckles and gets out his bag o'dice) Let's do this!
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I mean, when it finally comes out of course. ;)
What you call generic, I call classic.Question, why are you guys looking forward to this Ironfang Invasion AP?
If I look at the description, it sounds very generic? Am I missing a link somewhere? Please enlighten me! ^_^
Amen! Fighting to save your land from invasion? Definitely classic.
Don't forget about blowing up bridges, Four. ;)
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Also we totally have a reason for why we cannot just fight the big bad at early levels. He has an army with him and is probably a badass. That and your a low level Adventurer being attacked by a very old dragon. In short, you know who this bastard is, You want to kill him, but cannot, and the only thing you can do is save what you can and run. After you are safe, then you can start forming a plan to make this general Azaersi pay for stepping on your town... And probably others, but mostly your town.
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Also we totally have a reason for why we cannot just fight the big bad at early levels. He* has an army with him and is probably a badass. That and your a low level Adventurer being attacked by a very old dragon. In short, you know who this bastard is, You want to kill him, but cannot, and the only thing you can do is save what you can and run. After you are safe, then you can start forming a plan to make this general Azaersi pay for stepping on your town... And probably others, but mostly your town.
She. She has an army. :)
Also we totally have a reason for why we cannot just fight the big bad at early levels. He* has an army with him and is probably a badass. That and your a low level Adventurer being attacked by a very old dragon. In short, you know who this bastard is, You want to kill him, but cannot, and the only thing you can do is save what you can and run. After you are safe, then you can start forming a plan to make this general Azaersi pay for stepping on your town... And probably others, but mostly your town.She. She has an army. :)
Rather difficult to tell with a name like that. Thanks for the clarification.