Dragnmoon |
Is this module going to have ties to any map packs or flip-mats? I'm getting myself ready for free RPG day and it would be great to know ahead of time if any of the maps work particularly well.
I don't know about Maps, but they do have a Mini Set for them.
Boxhead Contributor |
Boxhead wrote:Is this module going to have ties to any map packs or flip-mats? I'm getting myself ready for free RPG day and it would be great to know ahead of time if any of the maps work particularly well.I don't know about Maps, but they do have a Mini Set for them.
Yeah, I know about the minis, I'm just hoping that the module uses existing map products to cut down on prep time like many PFS scenarios. I'm not going to have very long slots on free RPG day...
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
Is this module going to have ties to any map packs or flip-mats? I'm getting myself ready for free RPG day and it would be great to know ahead of time if any of the maps work particularly well.
This adventure utilizes Map Pack: City Streets and two new maps designed specifically for this adventure.
John Benbo RPG Superstar 2011 Top 8 |
Arazyr wrote:Flip-Mat: City Streets?That's the one!
I love that flip mat, especially combined with the shops map pack. Makes for some fun/interesting encounters.
Eric "Boxhead" Hindley |
Arazyr wrote:Flip-Mat: City Streets?That's the one!
Sweet! Serendipity says I just ordered that!
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
Mark Moreland wrote:This adventure utilizes Map Pack: City Streets and two new maps designed specifically for this adventure.Will these "two new maps" be something revealed and made available before Free RPG Day?
We do not currently have plans to distribute any content from this adventure prior to Free RPG Day, due to contractual obligations to the people putting on the event. We have permission to distribute digital copies of the adventure to GMs and Pathfinder Society volunteers running this event as a demo at a participating game store, though, so if you want to draw maps ahead of time for a demo, please coordinate with your nearest venture-captain or venture-lieutenant to get your store officially added to the list of stores offering Pathfinder demos.
Feegle |
I'm scheduling this for our store and planning on multiple slots and tables throughout the day. Does this module follow the other Free RPG Day modules to run in about 4-5 hours or should I plan on more time per slot?
I think this one might actually be a little shorter. Remember - it's only a 16-page module, and there are 6 pre-generated characters included inside. That doesn't leave a whole lot of room for a long adventure - though I suspect that James Jacobs has crammed a whole lot of stuff in what pages he had.
Lindsay Markus |
... We have permission to distribute digital copies of the adventure to GMs and Pathfinder Society volunteers running this event as a demo at a participating game store, though, so if you want to draw maps ahead of time for a demo, please coordinate with your nearest venture-captain or venture-lieutenant to get your store officially added to the list of stores offering Pathfinder demos.
I just agreed to GM this at 7th Dimension Games in Jenkintown Pennsylvania for Free RPG Day. I would like a pdf copy so I can easily print the character sheets and so I can have clean digital copies of the maps (I am likely to use a 24" HDTV laying flat as the battle map using MapTools to provide vision blocking and fog of war).
I gather from your comment that such a pdf is possible. I see no Venture-xxx for Pennsylvania. I do see 7th Dimension Games is in your core database.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
For anyone planning on running this, contact your local campaign volunteer; if you don't have one in your region, contact mike.brock@paizo.com to organize an "official" running of this. He's out of the office until next week while at Origins, but he'll get back to you with info on what we can do to help.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
JohnF |
I'll be running this in my FLGS on Free RPG Day. I just tried to create an event for it, but as far as I could see it didn't appear in the list of PFS sanctioned modules.
There's also a link given (on the last page of the module) as the place to visit in order to download the chronicle. There are two problems I see here:
1) This appears to be incorrect - the last part of the link should probably be "additionalResources", not "resources" - at least, that's where all the other chronicles for sanctioned modules can be found.
2) Even when you get to the right page, the chronicle isn't there yet. The modules are getting into the hands of GMs by now - I'm sure I'm not the only one to have gone looking.
Michael Brock |
So will the Chronicle sheet allow for credit for a lower (say 1st or 2nd) level character should one play the pre-gens. I hope so as I like to see Free RPG day as a means to draw in new players.
Yes, it will fall under normal PFS sanctioned module rules, with the exception of 3 xp and 4 pp.
JohnF |
Hi all. We will make sure the Chronicle is available for download before Free RPG Day. It may not be available until the day before Free RPG Day, but it will be made available so it can be distributed on Free RPG Day.
Thanks, Mike - I'll look for the chronicle download again a bit later.
Do you expect this Module to be added to the list of modules on the "Create an Event" page any time before then?
Do you plan on fixing the website (by making 'resources' an alias for 'additionalResources') so that following the link printed on the last page of the module takes you to the right place?
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Chris Lambertz |
Michael Brock wrote:Hi all. We will make sure the Chronicle is available for download before Free RPG Day. It may not be available until the day before Free RPG Day, but it will be made available so it can be distributed on Free RPG Day.Thanks, Mike - I'll look for the chronicle download again a bit later.
Do you expect this Module to be added to the list of modules on the "Create an Event" page any time before then?
Do you plan on fixing the website (by making 'resources' an alias for 'additionalResources') so that following the link printed on the last page of the module takes you to the right place?
I'll see what I can do to make both these things happen. :)
Dragnmoon |
The Chronicle Sheet is now available for download.
The Link Says..
Its Chronicle Sheet and additional rules for running this module are a free download
No rules on how many xp and Fame you get for this
Chris Lambertz |
Chris Lambertz wrote:The Chronicle Sheet is now available for download.The Link Says..
link wrote:Its Chronicle Sheet and additional rules for running this module are a free downloadNo rules on how many xp and Fame you get for this
D'oh. That'd be my fault for using a boilerplate. It is intended to just be the Chronicle Sheet.
Dragnmoon |
D'oh. That'd be my fault for using a boilerplate. It is intended to just be the Chronicle Sheet.
Ugggg, Nothing against You Chris, but I would have preferred that the rules where with the chronicle since this is not a normal Module, and should not follow the Module Rules for PFS.
Though I am sure my Players would Love to get 3 xp and 4 PA for only a couple of hours of play time.. ;)
Michael Brock |
Ugggg, Nothing against You Chris, but I would have preferred that the rules where with the chronicle since this is not a normal Module, and should not follow the Module Rules for PFS.
Though I am sure my Players would Love to get 3 xp and 4 PA for only a couple of hours of play time.. ;)
I guess it is a good thing that the PFS FAQ has been updated then!
Terek |
For anyone planning on running this, contact your local campaign volunteer; if you don't have one in your region, contact mike.brock@paizo.com to organize an "official" running of this. He's out of the office until next week while at Origins, but he'll get back to you with info on what we can do to help.
I have not been able to get a hold of anyone over the last three weeks to get a digital copy for me and the other two dm's running this scenario at the game store this Saturday. I have the scenario from our game store to run it, I just would like to print out the pregens without bending the module to photo copy it.
Is there any way I can get a digital copy of at least the pregens?
Thank you
Dragnmoon |
Is there any way I can get a digital copy of at least the pregens?
Thank you
Is this for PFS? If it is you have to use the PFS 4th level pregens and cannot use the ones from the module.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Dragnmoon |
That could be brutal, the pregens in the book are 5th level. It also recommends being designed for "a group of 6 fifth level characters."
I fully agree, but they did not make the pregens in the module per PFS rules, so Mike said we have to use the PFS 4th level Pregens.
I recommend everyone that has a Pregen death in this module email Mike directly to describe in detail the circumstances behind the death and blame the whole thing on him! ;)
JohnF |
That could be brutal, the pregens in the book are 5th level. It also recommends being designed for "a group of 6 fifth level characters."
This has me seriously worried. This is supposed to be a scenario that can introduce new players to the Pathfinder Society. If I end up with a table of less than six players, several of whom are unfamiliar with the Pathfinder rules, I've got a problem. Faced with:
- A less-than-full table
- Players who don't fully understand their character abilities.
- Pregens (typically less effective than regular PCs)
- Characters one level below what the module was designed for
I see a distinct possibility that this "introduction" could end up killing characters, which is not generally viewed as a good way to attract new players!
And while killing pregens is bad, I don't even want to think about what to do if one or two of the players brings along a level-appropriate PFS character, and that character ends up getting killed.
At this point I'm seriously considering running this as a non-PFS table. This is a module, not a scenario, so by the PFS rules a player must use an existing character, if possible. Playing with a pregen is only legal if the player has no level-appropriate character. (Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play v4.1, page 23).
JohnF |
Further to my last message, I would like to see it legal for me to:
- Allow players with PFS characters to use a pregen, just as if this were a scenario.
- Level-up the PFS pregens so they are level 5.
Fortunately somebody has already built a Hero Lab portfolio for the PFS pregens, so at least I wouldn't be starting from scratch.
Not only am I trying to attract new PFS players - I'm also trying to get the store where I'm running this on Free RPG Day interested in hosting regular PFS sessions. That will be a hard sell if I end up with unhappy players, and embarassing if I have to explain that I'm not actually running it as a PFS event!
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |
That could be brutal, the pregens in the book are 5th level. It also recommends being designed for "a group of 6 fifth level characters."
The adventure was playtested with the 6 included pregens, so if you run it with those it should be balanced. While the pregens aren't legal to use in other Pathfinder Society games, I don't see why you couldn't use them at the table for game demos on Saturday.
Dragnmoon |
While the pregens aren't legal to use in other Pathfinder Society games, I don't see why you couldn't use them at the table for game demos on Saturday.
Sure they can run the the Pregens in The module, the game just won't be a PFS game and they won't get the PFS Chronicle.
Edit: And that maybe a better way to do it for those worried about using the PFS 4th level pregens.
JohnF |
Mark Moreland wrote:While the pregens aren't legal to use in other Pathfinder Society games, I don't see why you couldn't use them at the table for game demos on Saturday.Sure they can run the the Pregens in The module, the game just won't be a PFS game and they won't get the PFS Chronicle.
Precisely. And that's not going to help promote PFS play.
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Thank you Mark,
Yes Dragonmoon expressed my concerns. I have at least two PSF players eager to get killed in, er get credit for the adventure. (We need a strikeout text function.) If they play two 6th level PCs and I don't have enough PFS players to play, then either a) they play it for no credit, no harm no foul (since it's not a PFS game) or they go through with their higher level PCs and a group of newbies with the 4th level pregens and have to 'drag them along'
Maybe I'm missing the intent of the module on free RPG day. *shrug* I thought it was to let newbies 'test drive' higher levle PCs along with veterans, and everyone gets a take home sheet. (And hopefully some product from the FLGS)
Dragnmoon |
Maybe I'm missing the intent of the module on free RPG day. *shrug* I thought it was to let newbies 'test drive' higher levle PCs along with veterans, and everyone gets a take home sheet. (And hopefully some product from the FLGS)
They are there to introduce new players, They are also not written with thoughts towards PFS, that is done afterwards.
It is just us PFS players that have this concern, everyone else (Non PFS Players) they could care less ;)
Mark Moreland Director of Brand Strategy |