Sneak attack a finesse attack?


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i reread the sneak attack rules when one of my players mentioned sneak attacking with a great axe i thought immediately no way has to be a finesse weapon but upon reading sneak attack it doesn't stat that anywhere there's no reason he couldn't do it with a axe by raw from what i see. am i crazy or just missing something?

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vidmaster wrote:
i reread the sneak attack rules when one of my players mentioned sneak attacking with a great axe i thought immediately no way has to be a finesse weapon but upon reading sneak attack it doesn't stat that anywhere there's no reason he couldn't do it with a axe by raw from what i see. am i crazy or just missing something?

There is nothing restricting a rogue from doing a sneak attack with any weapon. Heck, you could sneak attack with an improvised weapon if you wished.

the only restriction on weapons is that you cannot make a non-lethal sneak attack with a lethal damage weapon.

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you can sneak attack with a club if you want.

Any weapon that requires an attack roll (including touch and ray spells)

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You're crazy.

Okay, you're not crazy, but you don't have to be a sneaky rat to be a rogue. You could play a half-orc enforcer who focuses on strength, wields a greataxe and is a nothing like a stealthy halfling. He'd still be a rogue with sneak attack. (And Martial Weapon Proficiency)


the David wrote:

You're crazy.

Okay, you're not crazy, but you don't have to be a sneaky rat to be a rogue. You could play a half-orc enforcer who focuses on strength, wields a greataxe and is a nothing like a stealthy halfling. He'd still be a rogue with sneak attack. (And Martial Weapon Proficiency)

you totally just described the character my player is playing ha! so thats one of the changes form 3.5 that i missed then cool. pssh and people say rogue is weak heck sneak attack was buffed more ways from sunday. rogue on horseback with a lance just sayin >.>

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vidmaster wrote:
the David wrote:

You're crazy.

Okay, you're not crazy, but you don't have to be a sneaky rat to be a rogue. You could play a half-orc enforcer who focuses on strength, wields a greataxe and is a nothing like a stealthy halfling. He'd still be a rogue with sneak attack. (And Martial Weapon Proficiency)

you totally just described the character my player is playing ha! so thats one of the changes form 3.5 that i missed then cool. pssh and people say rogue is weak heck sneak attack was buffed more ways from sunday. rogue on horseback with a lance just sayin >.>

There was nothing in the 3.5 that restricted it to finesse weapons either. I have seen a half-orc rogue/barbarian played before.

Also rogue/druid can be a great combo for a forested area. Who is going to notice the animal that passes by...


vidmaster wrote:
i reread the sneak attack rules when one of my players mentioned sneak attacking with a great axe i thought immediately no way has to be a finesse weapon but upon reading sneak attack it doesn't stat that anywhere there's no reason he couldn't do it with a axe by raw from what i see. am i crazy or just missing something?

There is no (and never was that i recall) a rule against sneak attacking someone with a big honking sword. High strength orc rogues with axes and falchions are vogue for that reason.


Sneak attack with a great axe: a tradition since first edition!


actually it wouldn't be since first in first it was backstab. but you guys got to be messing with me im going to have to go check this out now youve blown my mind.

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Grusk II wrote:
Sneak attack with a great axe: a tradition since first edition!

Real men do their sneak attacks with Improved Unarmed Strike.

Shoryuken!!!

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Rogue + major magic talent + Chill Touch spell = fun!

If flanking it equals (1d6 neg energy damage + 1 str damage + sneak attack) each touch attack. And you can do it as many times as you have rogue levels per casting (and you can cast it twice a day).

The touch attack makes it much easier to hit and if you also take the crippling strike talent, you can drop their str by 3 per hit.

At level 10 with a full round attack this is:

(1d6+5d6)+3 str damage @ +7 melee touch attack
(1d6+5d6)+3 str damage @ +2 melee touch attack

Average of 42 damage and 4-6(depending on if they made their fort save) str damage per round for 5 rounds.


Yar.

It must be done.

Backstab with a Ballista

**warning: contains some offensive language**

~P


Half-Orc Thug archetype rogues with Falchions and Toothy are pretty freaking awesome. Just thought I'd put that out there.

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