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Imbicatus wrote:
thedjvan wrote:

Torag, Torag, Torag. Unfortunately, Torag's domain choices are far inferior to many of the others. This limits you on your domain abilities greatly, but I understand the desire to play the dwarf of Torag. It lends itself more to a caster but you can make it work. Cleric doesn't need an archetype in this case, but you could take your choice of fighter archetypes. I probably wouldn't use any but it's up to you ;)

Torag is great for a battle priest of any class. Ignoring domains/blessings, Defensive Strategist is the best defensive trait in the game. Blessed Hammer gives you spellstrike, and Deific Obedience gives you a +1 to hit, and Stone Strider lets you ignore a huge selection of difficult terrain.

Those are all great things, but none of them address the domains which is what I was talking about. Any of them would be just as good on another build (such as crusader cleric) or whatever other class also so that sort of makes it irrelevant to what I was talking about. Still it's very good info about battle priests and worth bringing up.


LibraryRPGamer wrote:
thedjvan wrote:
1-2 fighter/x cleric. Two fantastic domains (I recommend choosing Cayden Cailean as your deity and picking the demon(under chaos) and travel domains. That gives you a nice swift action self buff and boosts your speed (one of the biggest weaknesses of dwarves). The level(s) in fighter give you proficiency and feats.

If I were to go the Fighter 1-2/Cleric X rout, what fighter or cleric archetype would you suggest?

And, Torag will be my deity - for flavor reasons.

Torag, Torag, Torag. Unfortunately, Torag's domain choices are far inferior to many of the others. This limits you on your domain abilities greatly, but I understand the desire to play the dwarf of Torag. It lends itself more to a caster but you can make it work. Cleric doesn't need an archetype in this case, but you could take your choice of fighter archetypes. I probably wouldn't use any but it's up to you ;)


Disclaimer: these are all my opinions and not necessarily fact.

I feel like warpriest is a trap. It's a mediocre archetype of inquisitor and fervor is just about the only thing it has going for it. Crusader cleric on the other hand has much stronger casting with little loss as long as you play smart with your buffs.

I'm a diehard dwarf fanatic, and I've spent some time thinking about the options for this sort of character build recently. Here's what I've come up with:

1-2 fighter/x cleric. Two fantastic domains (I recommend choosing Cayden Cailean as your deity and picking the demon(under chaos) and travel domains. That gives you a nice swift action self buff and boosts your speed (one of the biggest weaknesses of dwarves). The level(s) in fighter give you proficiency and feats.

20 crusader cleric. A solid choice but you get diminished spellcasting and only one domain. I couldn't pick just one so I eventually ruled this one out but it might be good for you.

20 warpriest. Yuck, imo. I'd go inquisitor instead if you don't like the cleric or paladin options. It has far better
skills and it's mechanics are just as strong. If you insist on going this route, I recommend dual wielding kukris to take full advantage of the warpriest's altered damage dice.

Paladin/stonelord paladin. Both are cool, and you can do well with either. Stonelord is good, especially with a reach weapon, and you can safely dump CHA and only lose LoH per day.

Lastly, battle oracle. This would be harder to pull off since you're forced to use normal dwarf stats. I had my GM okay letting me use a floating +2 rather than the typical, so it was easy for me. You could still do it though, you could simply start with a 15(13 after racial) CHA and you'd be just fine with some CHA headbands as you level. This seems the strongest and easiest choice to me, but you may disagree.

Sorry for any weird typing here, I'm on my phone. Hope this was helpful!