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special materials pretty much got nerfed into pointlessness. Adamantine isn't even good for shields, just compare an adamantine shield to a "sturdy" shield. Adamantine is uncommon and costs more for the same hardness and half the hp of the common sturdy shield.

Agreed. Armor material is pretty well moot except mithril is lighter and orichalum can have another enchant. There are more beasties than I realized that had armor damaging attacks though (half dozen or so). It is still a huge chunk of your wealth tied up in little actual value.

I have seen some discussion that the magic items such as sturdy shield are just templates that can be applied to other materials. Take the difference in hp/bt from the base item (steel shield) to the magic item (sturdy shield) then apply that difference to shields of other materials. Again this is just an exercise, not sure if it based on any clarified rules. Also really works best for shields and maybe weapons.

For the life of me I cannot settle on what I want to do with my Redeemer of Shelyn. I can't decide if I want to go weapon & shield to get shield ally, or go glaive with blade ally, and then after that I can't decide what to do with her feat selection. I mean I want her to be merciful when she can but if a conflict is inevitable (and let's face it, it is) she's able to protect her allies and minimize the harm they come to. But I can't figure out how that would inform the mechanics of this character; it seems a lot of champion feats and features have all manner of ways of protecting others in different ways.

This is a Society character so I can't always guarantee what party she'll be with.

I could use some insight about how certain feat chains affect her role in combat or how feat selections might reflect her philosophy in combat.

Nintendogeek01,

Post got way long: TLDR version: Play whatever you think fits your vision of your character. If it ends up sucking, 2e has built in options to retrain.

Sorry in advance

As a merciful redeemer, you give them the option to back off , glimpse of redemption, and if they don’t you have to protect your team, stop the baddies and capture them if possible. Some options might be a bare hand a shield to grapple/non lethal damage them. You could delve into the domain spells in the passion domain to stop them from hurting others. The rest of her domains don’t seem to fit but you might get some mileage out of protection. Heck, you could even go crazy and pick the “steed” ally and take a wolf that trips the baddies. The extra higher than normal level rune from sword ally is nice but not much in the way of second chances if you want to capture them especially using a glaive.

Level 1 & 2, champion reaction and either flavor oath or tap into a domain,
Level 4 seems a dart toss too unless you want to max out mercy to heal anyone you accidentally killed, level ripe for retraining
Level 6 you have litany against wrath to again show the error of doing bad things, shield warden to protect your team or even the steed if you go with a pup. Litany only lasts a round but good role play option to persuade them to back off when their buddy blows up - edit -but as you said, this might not be an option
Level 8 Good stuff could be a 2nd domain spell, quick Block or second ally, but I find it difficult to get much out of the second without hurting your first pick. Sense evil kinda fits your vision as a role play element, not sure how the dms in society are at incorporation in this passive sense.
Level 10 devoted focus if you took a second focus spell for encounters, sloth seems like a waste of a focus point compared to the passion domain spells, other three are based on chosen ally with the steed seeming mandatory if you want it to keep up, Shield is very nice extra protection for a teammate and radiant is so so as flaming is a level 8 rune and holy is only 1 level away. I can see some retaining on choices here at later levels
Lvl 12 lasting doubt seems the winner, champions sacrifice seems situational when the green elf is about to die
Lvl 14 gives you an additional reaction. Hard for me to look past this.
Lvl 16 and 20 and ally based, need new runes then retrain away the old feats at least
Level 18 is hard to pass up the celestial form but mercy would fit your theme of second chances.

Sorry for the stir up on the topic. I only mentioned it because of the chain of rules that I interpreted to require it. From my reading of the rules, I had put together the following logic.

As people have pointed out, neither the etching section nor the transferring rune subsection mentioned the magical crafting feat where as the Alchemical and Snares sections point to their individual feats.

The second sentence under the “Transferring Runes” does say this requires the Craft activity, because I believe you’re etching the rune on a new weapon/armor/runestone while rubbing out the old etching on the other item.

The second sentence of the Craft activity under the Crafting skill says “You need ... the Magical Crafting skill feat to create magical items....”.

Page 535 Notable Item Traits
“Magical: Items with this trait are imbued with magical energies. ...A character can craft these items only if she has the Magical Crafting feat (page 263).” Everything involved in this process has the Magical trait, including the new +x striking Magic Weapon.

I interpreted all the above that in order to use the Craft activity to create a new magical item by transferring a magical rune to either a new weapon or runestone would require the feat.

Clear as mud...

Looks correct to me

Does the transfer of magical rune stones not require the Magical Crafting feat as well? You are using the capital Craft action to transfer and the feat allows you to Craft magic items. Thoughts?

Just getting started with 2e and based on group dynamics I chose the Champion because of various reasons. These forums have been a treasure trove for answering many of my random questions on the class. However, I have run in to a hitch when looking at the divine ally class feature, namely with the Blade Ally.

I assume my ally can reside in a weapon without a weapon potency rune (not magic) and still get the effect of a property rune. Logically I would see this carrying over to weapons with potency/max property runes by giving them an "extra" effect. For example a +1 holy widget (1 potency & 1 property) could house your ally and give the weapon a second ability such as ghost touch.

If this is the case, how does an extra property effect above other classes stack up to boosting a shield with extra hardness/HP and all of the potential feats to go with it?

I apologize if this was covered somewhere else in the forum. If it has, I would appreciate a point to the correct forum/post. Thanks!