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Kane

Vandora


Okay, because in Month 2 I built a monument (a belltower). So, my lovely townspeople are dedicating another to me? Nice. :)


Wings?

Sadly – your collective team is stumped. It almost literally drives you mad – and in your frustration, Anuk-su hears you. That’s when she decides she needs to talk with her “little sister” (in years, of course).

That answer will be on the “Campaign Thread” – but it is a more lengthy response and will require a “spoiler” – more on that to come.

Do you mean that this "conversation" will appear on the main game board?


In regard to Satoru's vassals, you said he wants to know specifically what types of units I want. Does that mean how many of each "category" of ranger, scout, outrider etc I want? If so, I will get back to you on this tomorrow.


Month 3

1. Ariarh will write to her father, Riordan Kane, and negotiate a trade agreement -- hoping to purchase war-trained mounts for her scouts, guards etc.

Diplomacy: Ry will take 20 for a total of 35.

2. Emmala Bottletech to set up a workshop/stall, to sell potions she has created. Ariarh will ask her to produce CLW potions for her to start with.

Craft-Alchemy: Emmala will take 20 for a total of 33.

3. Akiko (Councilor) to move through the community and speak with the townsfolk of Vandora, listening to their concerns, needs, requests etc and noting them to bring back to the Council to be addressed. She will try to keep the calm/peace. Akiko to gauge general attitudes, welfare, spirits and wellbeing of current Vandorans.

Diplomacy: Akiko will take 20 for total of 28

4. Kyras Starym (Marshall) to take his patrols and determine noteworthy, weak or more dangerous areas/spots/places in Vandora -- in order to determine what fortifications or defences are necessary and report back to Council.

Knowledge, Geography: Take 20 for total of 26


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Account Keeping notation

Treasury (at end of Month 2): 31,625gp & 5sp
reduced by 24,000gp to build library

Earnings (in Month 3 after national tax): 33,787gp

Total gold in Treasury (at end of Month 3): 41,412gp & 5sp


Building/s started in Month 3:

Converting gold into bp == to build Library (6BP)

From Treasury 6BP= 24,000gp, thus reducing the Treasury to 7,625gp & 5sp.

Month 3

Economy check: 1d20 + 25 ⇒ (18) + 25 = 43
Control DC: 32

11-2 consumption=9BPx4000=36,000gp (BGP)
T: 750x10=75,000x5%= 3750gp

36,000+3750gp= 39,750gp

then 15% National Tax to Saravale: 5963gp

Earnings in Month 3: 39750gp - 5963gp = 33,787gp. (approx. 8 BP and some change)


Month 2

1. Asher Jamieson will look into creating a sacred site now that The Temple of the Elk has been restored. Ariarh hopes that this will increase the flow of pilgrims into Vandora, paying homage to the great Erastil. He will send word out to the faithful and to high priests in other lands, provinces etc.

Asher's Diplomacy: Take 20 for a total of 25.

2. Ariarh to create a Druidic order in Vandora. She will send word out across the land, promoting the beauty of her forested barony and the opportunity for Druids to make home in a new land with opportunities to bless farmland/crops and earn a percentage of the farm's yield. Even to teach and pass on their knowledge of nature and healing or provide midwifery service. She will write to her mother who has connection with the druid acolytes in Artume.

Ariarh's Diplomacy: Take 20 for total of 35.

3. Phinneas Higonbothom to put out feelers and determine if there is a market for the extra weapons and armor Satoru has requested that Ariarh purchase. And advise Ariarh the best price to on-sell these items.

Phinneas' Diplomacy: Take 20 for total of 24.
Phinneas' Appraise: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (5) + 9 = 14 (not sure if this is necessary)

4. Ariarh to speak with Isani and/or Phinneas to determine if she can tap into her Celestial bloodline and find a way to activate her dormant "powers" and whether there is a chance she can "grow" wings like her higher-level angelic ancestors.

Isani's Knowledge, Planes aid: take 20 for a total 28 or
Phinneas' Knowledge, Planes: take 20 for a total of 32. (+2 from Isani for total of 34)


Dain GM wrote:
Your only caveat is you can only do 4 of these things per month - I put this stipulation in place because I presumed you and Kae would be doing exactly that - and didn't want things to go crazy. I didn't intend for you to use a "weekly action" to convince the apemen to move in with you because I thought that was a given, and though I don't mind RP'ing it out - I thought these weekly decisions would be the ways to really be working and shaking things up

Um, I didn't "waste" a weekly action on convincing the apemen to move into my province. So, I don't understand why you felt the need to say this.


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My treasury was not correct in my above posting.

So here goes again:

Okay, this is a run down of gold in my treasury:

Starting gold 32,000gp
Earned in Month 1 (after tax to Saravale): 20,638gp
Total of: 52,638gp
Consumption is 5bp to be paid in month 2: 20,000gp
Leaving 32,638gp.

Wages for Council of 10 for the year: (10 x 1000gp) 10,000gp
Living expenses/money given to Satoru to run Dojo: 6,000gp

Remaining gold in Treasury: 32,638gp - 16,000gp = 16,638gp + 2bp (unused from month 1).

Converting some of my gold into BP:

Require 3BP (so 12,000gp). Reduces Treasury to 16,638 - 12,000 =4,638gp

Therefore have 5BP to spend on buildings.

Dain, I'm presuming that Satoru can use the 6000gp Ariarh has allocated him to fit out his 25 vassals?

Income earned in Month 2 (after tax to Saravale): 26,987gp & 5sp

Current Treasury (at end of Month 2): 4,638gp + 26,987gp & 5sp = 31,625gp & 5sp


By my day's end, I'll have my 4 questions posted up for month 2 and then roll for month 3 and then ask the next 4 questions.


So, my control DC remains the same then or does it change too?


Ry uses her 6 bp to build a Graveyard @ 1/2x4bp=2bp and a Monument (Belltower) @ 1/2x6bp=3bp. Total cost 5 bp with 1 bp remaining and placed back in treasury.

Month 2: Economy check : 1d20 + 24 ⇒ (17) + 24 = 41

Control DC: 32

9bp - 2consumption = 7bp x 4000= 28,000gp (BGP)
Population: 3000, that is 750 income earners
5% tax rate in Vandora

You told me that Phinneas bumped up my town's Profession from 15 to 25 but I have no idea what to do with this information as I can't figure out the taxation and rest of formula. Sent you a PM.

Addendum: You also mentioned that the tax we paid to the capital in the first month was for 3 months. So why are we paying the capital again in month 2?

I was trying to follow what Waiph did in Month 2 but his Control DC was 33 and I got confused as to why it changed.


Okay, this is a run down of gold in my treasury:

Starting gold 32,000gp
Earned in Month 1 (after tax to Saravale): 20,638gp
Total of: 52,638gp
Consumption is 5bp to be paid in month 2: 20,000gp
Leaving 32,638gp.

Wages for Council of 10 for the year: 10,000gp
Living expenses/money given to Satoru: 6,000gp

Remaining gold in Treasury: 32,638gp - 16,000gp = 16,638gp + 6bp.

I had 2bp unused from first month and earned another 4bp.

So, I have 6bp to use on building.


Wow, muskets cost a lot. I was not aware they were 1500gp each. (Just got the chance to look at the firearms section in the SRD.)


Can I divide the outriders into Bounty Hunters and Beast Masters? I'm supposed to have 50 outriders -- I could have say, 10 Beastmasters and 40 Bounty Hunters, or some such proportion?

I did that with my second group of 50 straight rangers, but based on race -- I had 20 ape-men chimps (looking after/scouting the perimeter of the city/town from up in the trees) and 30 half-elves (overseeing the Fey forest and lands close by in case of travelling or emerging Evil Fey).


What about Ranger with the Musketeer Combat Style? It's an alternate archetype.


I still don't like it -- neither would Ariarh. I will think of something else.


I have the last 50 of my rangers to stat.

But I must say that I do not believe Ariarh as a druid would agree to the archetype 'Trophy Hunter' even if it instills advantages re tracking to her rangers. I will think of something else.


I like the idea of Druid acolytes and grove workers. I could make them as well if you're patient with me. Can I also make a druid high priest/priestess? If so, would they be level 3 unlike the acolytes at level 1?


I'm still working on the statting of guards and officers and I should get something to you by later today my time or tonight (if I'm running behind schedule).


I don't care about the residential tax payer right now (as I've charged them 5%). I have that worked out. I'm concerned about what rate to charge business and civil services.


Got your pm and read it.

I will be considering Satoru's request for armor and weaponry etc but not at the amount he is requesting because it seems rather ridiculous and also the other baronies may not be relying on/recruiting dex-based fighters nor requiring dastanas and other eastern weaponry, so trying to sell them after spending money I do not have seems like a gamble Ariarh would not take, especially with limited funds. She may need to rp this out further with her Treasurer but even now I have no idea what tax rates he has suggested I'd take on because you said it was too complicated and long to rp so I'm stuck with the simple 5% on residents and I believe Ariarh negotiated 10% of Phinneas' own income for the first three months (then to go up to 15%) to set up shop in her barony. So what rate for businesses and civil services?


That is okay. I'll keep an eye out for the pm. Thanks.


Now, with the current set up of how you want us to do only four skill checks a month, I don't know how or where to fit in trying to persuade/invite the apemen to make Vandora their home if they so choose.

It seems the current structure is strict and inflexible (at least in my opinion) with playing out anything that does not involve the one task per week in the barony creation.

Ariarh would not delegate this out to anybody because the apes are not trusting folk and they know her but not her councilmen. So, it makes sense that she approach them personally.

Please clarify what I can do in game at any time given this foray into barony creations because honestly I have no clue.


I do appreciate the help you have given me, however. I don't mean to sound like some whiny child with my frustrations. Thank you, Dain.


I have no idea where you think I have all this gold to do all these things when Satoru wants me to spend more than I have in my treasury for 400 sets of everything! I have paid him 6000gp on top of the 1000gp for his wage for the year ... and now I have to find more gold for all his grand schemes which I haven't signed off on. I may not purchase all 400 sets of everything -- my call after all, for I have other people to pay and taxes etc as well as the need to build so my province doesn't stay a shanty town.

I need to work some math magic because I need to materialise my own gold mine at this rate. I cannot spend money I do not have basically.

This whole thing will take me time and right now I don't have much of it. Thanks for the info above -- it goes along with some of my own ideas but I will tweak it to suit my needs.

These days we spend more time on the math and very little time using said characters in any real social setting. I don't like that - it's not my thing or my idea of fun (but you already know this about me).

p.s. Re Satoru's vassals - please send the information/sheets when you're ready.


So now I have to design my city guards? In that I mean I have to stat them up? Sigh. This is becoming more a task than fun. I have enough characters to keep track of already. I will think about this.


How many city guards does Ariarh have under Satoru? He said he has 25 vassals who are willing to serve and die for her, but I am unsure if this is the entirety of her city forces.

And to clarify, Ariarh does not have to purchase 400 sets of all these things if she chooses not to, right?


If we first look at the total "raw" cost of the weapons and armor Satoru is asking for:

if it includes longbow composite, the total is 94,250gp
with shorbow, composite, the total is 84,250 gp.

Then factor in the Trade Agreement with the Esserians and the bulk amount purchased, Ariarh would get 50% discount with the longbow order and 40% discount with the shortbow amount order.

Then the cost will end up being:

with longbow composite order: 94,250gp less 50% (47,125 gp)= 47,125 gp
with shorbow composite order: 84,250gp less 40% (33,700 gp)= 50,550 gp

Are my calculations correct?

[Cost break-down:
Studded leather = 400@25gp
Dastana= 400@25gp
Katana=400@50gp
Wakizashi=400@35gp
5000 arrows = 250gp
Longbow, composite = 400@100gp or Shortbow, composite = 400@75gp]


With the compound bows Satoru is requiring, what is he specifically after: longbow composite or shortbow composite?

And I cannot find the cost of the Dastana in the Pathfinder SRD, but found reference to the cost of them in the D&D Arms and Equipment Guide. That states the cost as 25gp. Is this correct?


Week 2 continued ...

With Satoru (Free Action):

"Satoru, with the abundant forests surrounding the Temple of the Elk I believe that a "dexterity based fighter" is more suitable for my needs and those of my people."

"And regarding your 25 strong and loyal vassals, the Yojimbo, I would be honoured to have them serve me and my lands. I will in turn provide them with a home and a community they can be proud of."

Dain, regarding the first condition of the treaty with the Fey, the one “hex” on my barony which must remain forested; no road, no farms on it to show good faith on my side of the treaty, can this be the hex which contains the Fairy Nest itself? I did mention that (though not quite definitively) in my conversation with Pan the Faun before he journeyed back into the Fey forest.

To Kyras,

"I shall have a word to Pan regarding your practical solution for policing of the forests within our province. Next month, I will certainly have him return to the Fairy Nest with my agreement not to develop the land on which they have made their homes and put forward a mutual protection policy. Thank you, Kyras."

Can you clearly state/clarify what Phinneas will be doing for me and the province re taxation. You kind of lost me in your explanation in ooc. Thanks.


This is directed at Yillim.

Lia and Revion will live in Ariarh's province of Vandora. Ariarh will extend Yillim an invitation to live in her barony, if he so chooses to. Yillim may remain in Saravale and make it his home. But he and his large black wolf are welcome in Vandora.


Sorry about that -- Still learning the ropes and I continue to make mistakes. I will be mindful of that in the future. Thank you.

And thanks re the avatars. :)


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MONTH 1

Week 1 : Discuss and get advice from the Treasurer on the appropriate levels of taxation for the people and businesses of Vandora.

Diplomacy with Phinneas Higonbothom: Take 20 for total of 35

"Phinneas, I trust in your business acumen and knowledge of equitable law. I seek advice of the tax I should levy on my people and the businesses established in Vandora. I have currently placed a tentative rate of 5% on the workers of the province. As yet I have no levy for the businesses in my lands. I look to you to give me honest word on the best levy to charge in order to run my lands effectively and keep my people content."
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Week 2 : Get an account from the Warden of the state of the militia.

Diplomacy with Satoru: Take 20 for total of 35

"Satoru, I seek an account of the city guards you are organising for Vandora. How many guards have you employed and do they have the necessary weapons and gear? How goes their training? Do we have enough soldiers?"

Once Ariarh can get an idea of what the state of her militia is then she can write a letter to Delain in Western Brevoy and request weapons, armor and alike to purchase through their trade agreement. And then send a letter to her father, Riordan Kane, in hopes of purchasing mounts for her soldiers.
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Week 3 : Clarify treaty with Fey

Pan's Diplomacy with the Fey: Take 20 for total of 28

Ariarh will ask her Grand Diplomat, Pan the Faun, to travel into the Fairy's Nest (where he hails from) and speak to the Fey on her behalf to seek a treaty or alliance so they can exist peacefully side by side. Ariarh will ask Pan to pass along her promise that she will not touch their land or destroy their home in exchange for allowing her people safe passage through or no harm to her people or foreign ambassadors on their borders.
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Week 4 : Check lands/borders and determine if there are threats of any kind and decide how to resolve the problems.

Diplomacy with Kyras Starym: Take 20 for total of 35

Ariarh will speak with her Marshall and have him and his patrol guards take stock of what creatures and/or threats exist across her barony (currently 2 hexes) -- she will ask Kyras to compile a report, naming the creatures/plants discovered and possible threats and solutions.

"Kyras, I need you and your patrol to ride out and take a look at my lands for there has been trouble in the past with dangerous Fey, Undead creatures, a large fell crow and angry treants. I will not allow my people to be put in danger, especially from those we are unaware of. I will need to know what you discover and solutions to eliminate or reduce the threat. This is an information gathering mission and I do not want you or your men to engage any said creature if you come across them. Have you enough men to patrol the forests of our province?"
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Ariarh is awaiting the arrival of her four hatchling griffons her father has dispatched. She will rear and train them in hopes of utilising them for reconnaissance and air patrols. She will write to her parents again, advising them of her barony and hopes.

Dain: I have created avatars and a simple profile for all my Council members. You have their sheets. Over the next few days I will put up their combat stats, feats, traits etc. But least they have an id on the board for now.


I realise the taxable workers in my province is 750 families (1/4 of 3000 citizens) and you multiplied that figure by 3 for 3 months, but are we actually paying 3 months of tax in advance to the capital? Please clarify.