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w1: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (4) + 4 = 8
w2: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15


1d20 ⇒ 7


Blaziken wrote:
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1d20 ⇒ 1

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Blaziken wrote:
1d6 + 1

1d20 ⇒ 3


I suspect part of the OP's question was whether mithril medium armour would count as light armour for the purpose of enchantments that can only be put on light armour. By my reading, it does.

Mithral wrote:
Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light. This decrease does not apply to proficiency in wearing the armor.


Piecemeal armor rules appear in the chapter titled 'variant rules'. I'd be very hesitant about relying on them for a discussion about mainstream rules for the same reason I don't suggest that regular full plate mail provides DR.

I take your point about the armored coat, though.


LazarX wrote:
Sledge Hammer wrote:
No, they're both regarded as armor and fill he armor slot. You can only wear one at a time.

There are rules about stacking multiple pieces of armor. As it says, whatever gives the bigger armor bonus totally suppresses the lesser item's powers and benefits. You still wind up with the greater weight encumbering you, and whatever other penalties the GM may deem appropriate for your pileup.

In other words, it's a bad idea that gives you no benefits, and problems.

What you want for your purposes would be a magic item that would let you switch out physically one armor and exchange it for the second.

Really? Where are these "rules"? I've only ever seen a similar rule specifically for bracers of armor interacting with normal armor, but nothing about "stacking multiple pieces of armor".


Tryn wrote:

1. As DM I would deny this because you can only wear one suite of armor.

2. Here I would also say NO, because a studded leather has no metal parts which adds real protection.

"Items without metal parts cannot be made from adamantine"
"Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral"

1. This came up in the previous thread. At the very least the armored coat can, and very likely the silk armor as well. Haramaki is the only controversial one.

2. Also discussed in previous thread. Gamemastery guide specifically allows mithral and adamantine studded leathers. Look up the pages in mentioned in the OP.


About Question 1:

d20pfsrd on magic items wrote:


Many magic items need to be donned by a character who wants to employ them or benefit from their abilities. It's possible for a creature with a humanoid-shaped body to wear as many as 15 magic items at the same time. However, each of those items must be worn on (or over) a particular part of the body, known as a “slot.”

A humanoid-shaped body can be decked out in magic gear consisting of one item from each of the following groups, keyed to which slot on the body the item is worn.

Of course, a character may carry or possess as many items of the same type as he wishes. However, additional items beyond those in the slots listed above have no effect.

Depends on how you read the last sentence.

Since that part of the rules talks about magic items, it should be understood as talking specifically about magic items when it mentions 'items' in that last sentence, and their magical effects when it talks about 'effects'. Otherwise, you could use it to argue things like "my eyes and face item slots were already used by magic items before I was blindfolded, so the blindfold has no effect and I can see through it" or "I'm wearing a bracelet, so the manacles that the guards put on me have no effect" (both manacles and bracelets occupy the wrist slot).

The sensible ruling is that magic items work only if worn in the right slot, and any magic item worn in a slot already filled by another magic does not give its magical properties, but non-magical items always work as long as they are used in the right way. That's what I think anyway.

About Question 2:
I've seen people talking about their adamantine haramakis on the message boards. You wouldn't be the first one to have thought about it, and since the haramaki's defensive properties almost certainly come from the chainmail or metal plates, I think it makes sense.


Exiel's puny spell of healing has no effect on the Rider. He does not even seem to notice the spell.

The Rider wheezes through gritted teeth.

The hut...the hut has been captured by Elvanna...as were the other keys... I fear I cannot give more guidance than that you must move against the Jadwiga Elvanna if you are to succeed... I do not suggest that it will be easy...but if you want to save your world, you must save my queen first...

The Rider convulses and cries out in pain again as the ice spreads further. By now, most of his torso is covered in icy protrusions, though his arms still remain free. With trembling hands, he pulls from a belt pouch what appears to be a lock of coarse white hair and a curious leather mask with goggle-eyes and a long beak where the nose and mouth should be.

These are...the two keys I managed to retrive... I...can use what power I have left to re-activate them... and I can give you what remains of my power to aid you against Elvanna...

He takes a deep, shuddering breath, then composes himself and pronounces

I wish you well, mortals... From this point on, you are the Black Riders!

With that, the Rider places the mask and hair under his chin, then with a swift motion pulls a dagger from his belt and plunges it into his neck! Blood flows freely from his ravaged throat, covering the items...or rather, the blood seems to flow into the items, leaving neither stain nor mark! As he does so, a black mist rises from around him and takes the form of six black cowled cloaks that float in the air for a brief moment before flying to each of the six of you!

As the mantles alight on each of you, you instinctively perceive that its powers are at this stage weak, but also raw, and you have a brief moment in which to shape it by your will - molding its power and appearance to suit your preference.

This is where the stat you declared in the discussion comes into play - you will be able to give it a small boost once per day as a swift action for 1 minute. Also, you are able to declare for yourself the appearance that the mantle will take on you: it can be a hooded cloak, a robe, a surcoat over your armour, or whatever else you choose, so long as it is a sizeable and prominent piece of black clothing that you will wear for as long as you have this boon. You will not be able to conceal it in any way - making it into a robe and wearing another robe over it will cause it to dissolve into mist and reform over the other robe. Note however that this does not take up any item slot. Amongst other things, this is meant to make you look cool, so get creative with your descriptions! =)


If you have any questions for the Rider, you must ask them quickly, as it seems that he is struggling for his very breath right now.


As the black-clad rider delivers his chilling message, he convulses violently for a brief moment. You see that the shard of blue ice jutting from his back is slowly turning red, as if it were drawing his very lifeblood from his body, whilst a small patch of ice appears on his chest, slowly spreading over his entire body. He waves off any attempt at pulling the ice shard from his body.

It is useless...this is foul magic, and to touch it would doom you as well... No... you are still needed! Listen well! Through the portals, Elvanna will spread a new ice age across your world, consuming it for all eternity. Even if you manage to close this one, Elvanna will simply open ten more in its place. If you want to save your world, you must find Baba Yaga! Only Baba Yaga can defeat Elvanna. Only the Queen of Witches can undo what her daughter has done.

The Rider pauses briefly to let the brevity of his proclamation sink in.

You must find Baba Yaga's Dancing Hut, and use it to locate her. The hut is a powerful artifact that can cross great distances , even travel between worlds . If you can control the hut, it can take you to Baba Yaga. The hut has many keys objects attuned to the hut-that can take it almost anywhere. I managed to secure two of these keys, but Elvanna stole their power to prevent anyone from using the hut to find her mother. Once they are reactivated, placing the keys in the hut's cauldron will retrace Baba Yaga's path.

The old man suddenly convulses and cries out in agony as the patch of ice on his chest flares violently. It has by now covered his entire torso, jagged protrusions of ice growing throughout it. The original shard of ice protruding from his back is now a deep red, and if it is indeed draining his lifeblood, you wonder that he is still alive.


The old man wheezes.

Is...is this it then? Have...Elvanna's agents... finally *cough cough*...caught up to me? ...

As he regards you, however, hope flickers in his rheumy eyes, and he seems to regain some vitality, if only a little.

No...no you are not, are you? You are not of Irrisen... Then there is still a chance! There is still hope! Hear me, mortals... if you wish to save your entire world from eternal winter... you must listen to what I have to say!

As he makes his pronouncement, he manages to pull himself (or perhaps one of you helps him)into a seating position. He motions to you to lean close, as he carries on in a softer, weaker, but steadier voice.

Once I was called Illarion Matveius, but I am now known as Black Midnight. I am Baba Yaga's Black Rider, harbinger of the Witch Queen's return.

Something has happened to Baba Yaga, mortals! Every hundred years, she returns to Irrisen to place a new daughter on the throne. But
it seems the current Queen, Elvanna, has other plans. Baba Yaga has not appeared as planned, and Elvanna intends to slay everyone loyal to her mother. She hunted down those of us who would herald Baba Yaga's return and has already slain my associates. I am the last of the Three Riders, and Elvanna has pursued me to my death as I am the last remaining threat to her plans!

As for her plans... the fooling whelp thinks to take the place of Baba Yaga herself! She would supplant the Witch Queen and take all of Golarion as her personal kingdom! Irrisen is a land of endless winter, created by Baba Yaga's magic, and Elvanna seeks extend the reach of that magic, to cover the entire world in ice and snow by using portals like this one, thus getting a stranglehold on all of Golarion! "