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Hi, i posted this on the rules forum and didn't get the answer I was looking for/ If this question has been answered please point me to the post.

In the Gods and Magic resource it mentions that the lesser Goddess Sivanah is known for granting her Illusionists the ability to use Shadow conjuration spells to produce a healing spell. It also gives an example of using Shadow Conjuration as the component to making a mask of the Living God Razmir, to mimic a healing effect.

Other posts I have read take this as common knowledge or at least acknowledge the existence of this possibility. So, in this I have a question. I made my first PFS organized character. He is an Illusionist, and a follower of Sivanah. If this is a valid possibility, how does it work? Can the Illusionist cast cure light wounds on himself? He is aware it is an Illusion so therefore would in theory already fail his save. Would he be healed, and if so, for how much? His compatriots, knowing his forte for magic, would they need to fail a will save in order for this to work? I understand the flavor this idea adds to a strange "priest" of a goddess of shadow, but it has opened a little can of worms for me if I wish to expand on my PC in this manner and take advantage of it.

So, it says it in one of the official resources. It's used twice in said book to give it precedent. Various board post have acknowledged it as a fact of sorts. Is it a legit optional rule for Illusionists of this deity? Is it divine or arcane magic. What are the rules for saves and resists and basic function of Shadow Conjuration used in this matter?

thank you for your time
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle

I wanted to add this as an example of what i was talking about I it from the Pathfinder wiki page and references pg.47 of Gods and Magic.

The worship of Sivanah is popular in the countries of Nex, Irrisen, and in the cities of Katapesh, while it is strictly prohibited in Nidal, due to a ban by the country's clerics of Zon-Kuthon. She is also widely worshiped among the illusionists and gnomes of Golarion, who appreciate her devotion to their favorite school of magic.[2][3] Devout illusionists who follow her have been known to be able to mimic divine healing magics by use of their shadow conjuration spells

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Hi, i posted this on the rules forum and didn't get the answer I was looking for/ If this question has been answered please point me to the post.

In the Gods and Magic resource it mentions that the lesser Goddess Sivanah is known for granting her Illusionists the ability to use Shadow conjuration spells to produce a healing spell. It also gives an example of using Shadow Conjuration as the component to making a mask of the Living God Razmir, to mimic a healing effect.

Other posts I have read take this as common knowledge or at least acknowledge the existence of this possibility. So, in this I have a question. I made my first PFS organized character. He is an Illusionist, and a follower of Sivanah. If this is a valid possibility, how does it work? Can the Illusionist cast cure light wounds on himself? He is aware it is an Illusion so therefore would in theory already fail his save. Would he be healed, and if so, for how much? His compatriots, knowing his forte for magic, would they need to fail a will save in order for this to work? I understand the flavor this idea adds to a strange "priest" of a goddess of shadow, but it has opened a little can of worms for me if I wish to expand on my PC in this manner and take advantage of it.

So, it says it in one of the official resources. It's used twice in said book to give it precedent. Various board post have acknowledged it as a fact of sorts. Is it a legit optional rule for Illusionists of this deity? Is it divine or arcane magic. What are the rules for saves and resists and basic function of Shadow Conjuration used in this matter?

thank you for your time
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle

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Oh, and the page that is referenced from the Gods and Magic, look like its p.47. Also in this same resource is the matter of the magic item mask of the god Razmir. it to has shadow conjuration as one of the components in its creation for its "false" priests to mimic healing spells.

thank you for your time
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle

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here is just one reference to her, and what I'm talking about. this is from the Pathfinder wiki page.

The worship of Sivanah is popular in the countries of Nex, Irrisen, and in the cities of Katapesh, while it is strictly prohibited in Nidal, due to a ban by the country's clerics of Zon-Kuthon. She is also widely worshiped among the illusionists and gnomes of Golarion, who appreciate her devotion to their favorite school of magic.[2][3] Devout illusionists who follow her have been known to be able to mimic divine healing magics by use of their shadow conjuration spells

thank you for your time
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle

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Oh, I am totally aware of the normal limitations of the Shadow Conjuration spell. I'm only referring to the case stated in the Gods and magic book and under nearly reference to the goddess Sivanah and her "priesthood".
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle

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HI, this is my first time posting, and I hope I can find a little help. If this question has been answered please point me to the post.

In the Gods and Magic resource it mentions that the lesser Goddess Sivanah is known for granting her Illusionists the ability to use Shadow conjuration spells to produce a healing spell. It also gives an example of using Shadow Conjuration as the component to making a mask of the Living God Razmir, to mimic a healing effect.

Other posts I have read take this as common knowledge or at least acknowledge the existence of this possibility. So, in this I have a question. I made my first PFS organized character. He is an Illusionist, and a follower of Sivanah. If this is a valid possibility, how does it work? Can the Illusionist cast cure light wounds on himself? He is aware it is an Illusion so therefore would in theory already fail his save. Would he be healed, and if so, for how much? His compatriots, knowing his forte for magic, would they need to fail a will save in order for this to work? I understand the flavor this idea adds to a strange "priest" of a goddess of shadow, but it has opened a little can of worms for me if I wish to expand on my PC in this manner and take advantage of it.

So, it says it in one of the official resources. It's used twice in said book to give it precedent. Various board post have acknowledged it as a fact of sorts. Is it a legit optional rule for Illusionists of this deity? Is it divine or arcane magic. What are the rules for saves and resists and basic function of Shadow Conjuration used in this matter?

thank you for your time
the Tattooed Geek
Kevin Lytle