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I apologize if this is in the wrong place.

Half-Dragons have for many years of D&D, AD&D, AD&D 3.5e, Pathfinder 1e & 2e as well as 5e has been on my mind for a long time now. I have without a doubt had an issue with one small feature of these glorious creatures, and I was wondering what the community at large felt about this issue. While I am discussing Half-Dragons here I think this issue can be applied to many other templates of the Half-(type) all together as a whole.
So the issue at hand is this ,template type aside, when applying a template to any base creature why for the love of the goddess does it always say "creature's type changes to" this has bothered me for the longest time now. Frankly why does it not just add the new type to the base creatures type as well?

For an example: Tieflings are Outsider (Natives) adding a half dragon template changes this to Dragon instead of Tiefling Outsider (Native), Dragon (type)

Maybe I am missing something in my long years of playing these games but the term Half does not mean you become the full creature type half-elves for instance do not become Elf nor are half-orcs, Orc's either. Now the most commonly used Half-anything template is Dragon yes, but there are so many other half templates out there and the little research I have done so far all of them change the race type to literally a full version, (discounting Half-Elf and Half-Orc there is no race type change), literally getting rid of the base creatures race all together so why do they get to retain the base creatures stats?
I am sure some of you have maybe had this thought hit you once in your years of playing the games yes? Cause if this question has not popped up once for you then I feel it should have by now because a half species is not a full species of either race. I used Half-Dragon as the example because as we all know from Fantasy RPG lore dragons have a history of screwing nearly anything alive. Some dragons even experiment with creating new races base on their blood so this should not be a surprise to anyone.
For all essential purposes though, Aasimar and Tielfings, are technically already half bloods in their own right. Yet they are consider a race as a whole with many alternate racial archetypes based on their blood heritage. So I propose this thought to you why have Half-(Fiend, Angel, Other) outsider templates when all they would technically create is another Aasimar or Tiefling based on their bloodline? Also speaking of bloodlines there is one major discrepancy I noticed Umbral dragons do not have cold. They have negative energy for a breath weapon thus the Bloodrager Bloodline list under primal dragons is incorrect.
Yes my research even lead me into the bloodlines of some classes cause I wanted to see if having the blood gave you the race type as well. Unlike Dragon Disciple or Dragon Shaman I did not see this as an issue in the classes. I guess my research was a bit more extensive than I stated earlier, still go look for yourselves if you find this post to be incorrect. Currently I am checking into Monster Templates as well.

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Dragon78 wrote:
So is the rougarou's bite damage a d6 or a d4 because the creature's stats say d6 but the 0HD rules says d4?

If you look at the back of the Bestiery pg 302 on the chart a medium sized creature will have a 1d6 bite. Thus I would as a DM determine that in humanoid form this bite would remain a d6 as well. This is further Confirmed when you look at the entry for the Wolf pg 278 as a medium size creature which the Rougarou Change shape's into has. Also by the rules for Change Shape pg 298 they retain their stat abilities and gain any Special Qualities of the new form if any which the Wolf has none so they being a wolfen creature themselves would neither lose or gain anything in the wolf form.

This is just my humble opinion based on the rules set for from the Bestiery books and as a DM of 35 plus years.