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both have no Armor Check Penalty, the breastplate starts with -4 and gets +3 from mithral and +1 from masterwork.

All mithral armor is masterwork so the +3 already includes the masterwork affect. Thus a mithral breastplate has an ACP of -1. The standard way to negate this is to take the Armor Expert Trait.

It says no where that the masterwork bonus is includet in the mithral bonus.

Mithral says:
"Spell failure chances for armors and shields made from mithral are decreased by 10%, maximum Dexterity bonuses are increased by 2, and armor check penalties are decreased by 3 (to a minimum of 0)."

Master work ssays:
"Just as with weapons, you can purchase or craft masterwork versions of armor or shields. Such a well-made item functions like the normal version, except that its armor check penalty is lessened by 1."

My Char is profesioned with medium armor so no problem there and i have to make a decision what armor i buy in the next town.
I just want to make sure i dont miss something.

Hi,

i´m working on my Hunter (Archer) and have read some Archer builds and in almoste all of them they use a mithral chain shirt as Armor.
But when i compare the mithral chain shirt whith the mithral Breastplate i finde the breastplate better.

Do i miss something?

When i assume a Dex bonus of +6 and compare them with a +3/+2 enchantment bonus.

Mithral chain mail:
Armor bonus +4, Dex bonus +6, enchantment +3, summs up +13AC cost 10.100gp

Mithral breastplate:
Armor bonus +6, Dex bonus +5, entchantment +2, summs up +13AC cost 8.200gp

both have no Armor Check Penalty, the breastplate starts with -4 and gets +3 from mithral and +1 from masterwork.

so the only real difference is the weight, mithral chain shirt 12,5lbs vs breast plate 15lbs and if you invest a nother 200 gp to make it a agile brest plate even that is the same.

So why are people use the mithral chain shirt and not the mithral breast plate, what am i missing?

Thanks
Michael

O.k. Thanks.

I thought so but found it so often that i wanted a clarification.

Thanks again.

Hi,

i have read several Hunter building Guides and most of them say whith the combination of Outflank and the Team Feat Coordinated Shot you get an +6 Attack Bonus on your range Attack.

Do you realy get an Flank Bonus on range Attacks?

Thanks
Michael

Thanks for all the answers.

I totaly agree that it depens on the circumstances. Somewere in the wild you don´t want the enemy come at you for a second time.

But.... when you are in the area of an authority be it the city guard or the local pathfinder lodge killing everybody who oppose you seems like vigilantism to me.
I know it is common practice in most groubs and for most PC´s and often easier for the GM but somehow it does not feel right.

And for the example of the paladin who wants to smite all evil and therefor kills all prisoners, dose he also walks throu every city casting detect evil on anybody and strikes down "evil" people no matter the race, age or gender? He propably has a lot to do on the next city council meeting :-)

I think i will recap it as players want that kind of freedom and power to do what they want when they play RPG´s and it is easier and faster especially when you play PFS and you have a time limit.

Hi,

first of i´m not an english nativ speaker so please forgive me my mistakes.

When i last played PFS (Level 1-4) our last encounter was with an human cleric. He was propably evil (none of us checked) because he had a zombie with him, chaneled negativ energie and was involved in slave trade.

When the fight was over he was unconscious (not dead). I wouled have had him stabilized, bound and hand over to the authority. But our thief killed him.

Later on that got me thinking, in PFS it is not allowed to play an evil character but is it allowed for a good or neutral character to kill an unconsious or helpless (sleeping) enemy?

I will define it a bit more and say a race an PFS player is allowed to play (without a boon).

I would say no because it is an evil act.

What would you say?

Greetings
Michael