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Dark Lurker of Psionics wrote:

10ft ladders are more common than 10ft poles.

I can think several places in my town where I could buy the ladder, with many options on style, materials and quality.

I don't know of any place that would have a 10ft pole in stock. Most lumber is in 6ft or 8ft sizes, most paint poles would be 4ft to 6ft, aside from expanding pruning poles saws, that 10ft pole would be special order.

That’s because modern ladders have to conform to OSHA requirements and other safety standards. If you look at a modern ladder, even the most simple (and cheap) one available at a national chain hardware store, you’ll find that it is most likely reinforced by steel bars, held together by steel rivets, and quality tested to ensure that it can withstand the advertised maximum load.

On the other hand, the type of ladder one imagines would be commonly found in the average D&D general store would literally consist of nothing more than two ten-foot-long sticks (read: poles), some wooden rungs (little poles), and a handful of nails (not necessarily good nails).

So while it would take a considerable expenditure of time and energy to disassemble a modern ladder (even with modern tools), it would take no more than two or three minutes to tear apart a medieval ladder, with nothing more than a hacksaw or hatchet.

Keep in mind that (in my campaigns, at least) there is no D&D equivalent to OSHA. Who exactly is going to be enforcing 10ft pole quality regulations? If a 10ft pole is too low-quality to be usable, then it should be obvious (filled with knotholes, rotting, etc.). That’s not something a PC should find out when he’s climbing across a bottomless pit. He shouldn’t have to ask if the pole is constructed to meet Waterdeep Builder’s Association code.

As others have already stated, it would be immensely useful if 10ft poles came with extra features, like reinforcement, or joints so they could be collapsed. However, those things need to be specifically added to the item description. Otherwise, DMs will assume they aren’t part of the normal item. In the 3.0 Arms and Equipment guide, such poles cost extra. They cost an inordinate amount, but still more than the standard pole. I think the standard price is fine for a 10ft pole that collapses to two to four feet in length.


I think this is the best way to go. Unearthed Arcana-style rules can allow the designers to add in some of the thing that they (and us forumgoers) feel can improve the 3.5 rules, without having to worry as much about compatibility.


Yeah, a player's magazine is exactly what we'll need after Dungeon and Dragon have ended.

Even if they can't offer a true subscription and have to increase the price thanks to a possible non-compete clause, I would be willing to pay for a smaller-than-Dragon monthly supplement if only to see the Dragon (and Dungeon) columns return.


tessius wrote:


It's been mentioned on several threads but basically, they'd have to start from scratch with new magazines since they wouldn't have the brand identity of the names Dragon or Dungeon.

To this end, I propose the creation of two new OGL magazines, to be entitled Dugeon and Dwagn, respectively.

These amazingly non-trademark infringing titles would be the best way to communicate Paizo's respect for classic D&D, and would also be amazingly similar to two other publications that will be sorely missed. They could even be introduced by articles written by trained Goblins, thus conveniently explaining the titles' poor spelling!

By the way, huge thanks to everyone at Paizo for being so helpful and professional with the transition. Your dedication to your customers is really appreciated.


I'm planning on running the adventure for three people who are pretty new to D&D. I figure that, while they should be able to handle any puzzles and whatnot just fine, I'll definitely have to tone down some of the encounters.

Eliminating some of the numerous minions should not only make the encounters easier, but my job as a DM easier as well! :)


Yeah, I figured if he was lying he would say something like:

"Sorry, a tarrasque chewed up a truck full of magazines the other day, and I'm kinda busy finding a group of adventurers who can kill it."


Wow.

He has to be telling the truth. There's no way he would lie and give some excuse like "Yeah, a truck full of magazines exploded."

Seriously, though, nobody's hurt, right?