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Orion: Discord activity is a very, very soft indicator of engagement and readiness. I don't intend to put much stock in it for the selection process. My reasoning for deciding sooner rather than later is that multiple people, on both sides of the question, weren't going to make a character until we had decided on a platform. It's never ideal. But perhaps in the future I'll just declare the platform before starting recruitment. Full acknowledgment. Just wanted to point out that "making a character" before the platform was decided upon should also count as (minor) indicator of engagement and readiness *grin* :) I just wanted to add, I was giving some consideration to the spheres-option before already. If chosen, depending on the party's composition, I would possibly like to go Sphere-Cleric (which basically only swaps out the spellcasting). The roles would remain identical for healing and buffing.(and nuking undead).
Thank you for the work, and the invite - but I trust preliminary activity on the discord will have no impact on the selection process and just help move chatter from the recruitment? Just making sure - because I'd just hop on and familiarize myself with the specifics if I do make the cut...I'm already in some games based on discord and used to the general setup(alias, channels, bots...).(Also, I know you basically already settled on discord, AND that is your preferred medium. So probably not a thing this time around - but maybe for next time: I think many people would not mind if you keep the decision "open" until after recruitment, and then base it on the choices of those you picked. Theoretically, we could end up with a party of 3xB, 1xC, 1xD and a clear majority of players for board use. I doubt it, but it's a possibility - just maybe something to think about if you are running another recruitment in the future.)
Maybe the undead can butcher your character's friends and family early (pregame). That horror might drive you into finding and destroying the cause and make you less worried about orphans you might meet. Don't give the GM such nasty ideas. (That said, yeah, I would search for the cause either way and try to undo it if such is feasable. Point was, I would still not make camp INSIDE the city unless forced by some means.)Also, not trying to derail the recruitment - just figured this may be of interest to others, as well - or hear their thoughts on why their characters might feel ok with staying inside the city.
Aye, will do. I do want to add, though, that I feel quirks and mannerisms come to most characters naturally as part of the "personality" they develop when being played.
GM: That is actually slightly amusing - because I concur. In the previous iteration, I had him disillusioned from his posting, because many people don't WANT to better themselves, and are not interested in help, causing him to turn to drink to cope with the reality. That seemed too 'cliche'.
I also wanted to avoid that whole "crisis-of-faith"-stuff for the same reason. Considered having him spend his evenings at a "Fight-Club"-like Brawling establishment, but found his build did not quite support that.
Then considered making him sexually deviant, but did not want to go there. As in, I actually wholeheartedly agree with your feedback, but kind of failed to add a proper character flaw I felt fit naturally without touching on tropes. And as such submitted to see how you felt about it. Plus I wanted to verify that the mechanics are fine by you before investing more in the backstory - if I had to switch to VMC Paladin or something, I would have had fewer options to work with. Thank you a lot for the feedback. I'll take a day or two to let my mind work, then come take another pass at his background. I may have him entangled in a crime syndicate that he got suckered into after protecting some small-time criminals. A mafia-kinda deal where the criminals actually "support" the local populace and provide a measure of control where the guards won't. It's still a conflict of interest because they are criminals, and cause him to do criminal things, but he's justifying it by working with the tools he has available when the city officials wouldn't listen. Would that concept seem agreeable? If he's e.g. involved in smuggling or similar, that could also play into the campaign later - he might know a storage location or two with things we could use.
As per the FAQ in Game Info, I would like to request feedback.
But I do understand there is bound to be some table variance, but as the main draw of the VMC it is also an expensive "purchase" for half the Feats. Either way, if for some reason you rule that it would not work, I'll have to reconsider my options... (Also, pity about the trait shortlist even if it makes things more streamlined - Cleansing Light would have been hot for this build :) )
MordredofFairy here, this will be my submission. (Functionally complete submission. Only minor details(like exact gear purchase, or a once-over check for integrity) still open.)
And I'm the only character of Lia's player to EVER kill something using the massive damage rules! The subject of my wrath rolled a 1 on it's Fortitude Save for a result of 14...yay!
it is moved automatically if the last gameplay post is sufficiently long ago...i think 3 or 4 months. The only other way I can think of is "taking over" the game and setting is as inactive, or asking support to do that.
no worries if you need more time, but maybe a short one-liner to let us know you are still with us?
no worries here- just, at times, trying to post in all games I am in ;)
So, in the interest of not stalling any longer, lets do this? Ganorok is invisible and tries our act, Enothai can make herself invisible to get into a optimal position for one of her spells, and me and Aizel can walk in casually, chatting about the pros and cons of infernal contracts trying to draw attention-
I do have Greater Invisibility myself. But I think we may not need it here. If they can see invisible thinks, rendering our little plan moot, then greater invisibility won't help either.
"Maganrad was killed by a devourer named Valshune. A devil named Nagxiv claims to have had a contract for the mage’s soul, and demands that the devourer must honor its terms."
"Well, in that case, lets not lose time and get in there while they are still arguing. We do have his copy of the contract, don't we? Maybe thats worth SOMETHING? Enothai, do you know if those two types of demon are capable of seeing trough illusions? Otherwise, Ganorok could sneak there, and seemingly "drop" the contract from the demon who's name was not signed. I have no idea if that would get them fighting, but it could be worth a try. Other than that, we probably can only be very...direct, in our approach. As the lady mistress explained it, it's the only way to the leader of this plane, so circumventing them is out." Once answers are given, Orion will head towards the door, ready to go in if their plan fails or won't work.
"You did help, by allowing us to attack them without fail. Otherwise Aizel would have had to swing wildly, and Enothai guess where to place her spells." Orion smiles at Ganorok.
[ooc]Assuming they are damaged enough that a hit would destroy them, so trying to get somewhere where I can hit 2 different ones.
Do I see where they are? If none are near the mage, I will hand the spellbook towards him but keep holding on.
I know you are keeping Ganorok's knowledge and GM-knowledge separate, but I thought the Invisible Stalkers had no form to be outlined? Will his scrolls even work? I'm all up for that, but I'd like to know what we're getting into.
Otherwise they could attack and move away anyway. But with that, I would have 42-4(plane penalty) on perception, meaning if they move, they only have +20 to stealth from invisibility(instead of +40 when standing still) and I have a reasonable chance to see them with +38 on my check...
"Remember Enothai, time is of the essence...we need to get back to the material plane today, or the price money will be forfeit by the rules of the breaching. With that amount of Gold, you can probably buy all the scrolls you need. I'd say 2 or 3 spells, at most, then we move on"
"Well, it would seem there's company to be had in the next room. Shall we try to surprise them? Or parley with them, too? If they argue about his soul, we may be able to take sides, and eliminate one, then the other. Wd did find a contract with Maganrad, right?" Orion walks over to the table, and picks up the spellbook: "Before then, we should help that crazed mage back to our plane. I know it would be a interesting opportunity to copy some spells, but I'm not sure if we have the time to do so, Enothai. Maybe a select few, and then we return it to him. Ganorok, we can check the room meanwhile, see if there's something else interesting."
lawful, yes...but in that case, she could simply wipe out our family by having any prospective fiancees killed. they are neither family nor descendent. So unless you are fond of incest and want our children to truly "love" their siblings, we'll need to be careful :) maybe something like taking no action affecting someone associated with us without us or our descendents approving of it first. still leaves a loophole by tempting our descendents into foolish stuff, but I'd see that as natural selection...
Actually, I'm not certain we should. While it's not as chaotic as with Demons, Devils also do have their bids for power...plays by lesser ones against higher ups, trying to usurp positions in the hierarchy. AFAIK those even higher on the career ladder approve of this, as it's proof those who succeed are the better choice for the job. So if things are not as one-sided as we would surely want it, maybe she could actually come to our aid. You know, try and get HIS job...
"You claim you could be free if Chyvvom was destroyed. But is that really how the hierarchy of the hells works? Would not another take his place? Would you not end up needing to find another place with another superior? Also, you say you would help us...how did you intend to do that? As for bargaining with a devil, I know better than to sign their contracts. Mortal lawyers already incite holy rage in me, and I don't look at fiendish ones any kinder." Orion looks around in the room, then points at the dominated Thief:"What about that handywork, and Maganrad in the entrance room, was it you? Who else makes their home in this plane?"
"Speak, then. You were so sure we were mere playthings to you that I assumed you were joking before." Orion will stand down, regardless of the result of the Sense Motive check, and hear her out.
"Maybe we can be useful to you, yes. But we have not survived 30 seconds of combat yet, don't go taking it easy on us! More than 20 seconds left for us to leave a lasting impression on you...and here we GO!"
If intimidated:
2 attacks should connect, for 90 total damage(weapon is holy, so DR/good bypassed).
What do Aizel, Ganorok and Enothai say? This conceited demonic b***h more or less claimed that she could never lose, and at most spare us if we survive 5 rounds.
A.: Continue to wipe the floor with her? or B: Hear her out? or C: Something completely different...
Only a 5' step, so she doesn't provoke, but you are right, you step-up following her.
When his enemy tries to escape his reach, Orion steps right up, ready to slice her...
"Your back is against the wall, and your lackeys don't heed your call. What other tricks do you have, wretched fiend?"
Errata as found on SRD:
FAQ The official errata didn't say to change this but under concentration it says.... "Casting a spell while you have the grappled or pinned condition is difficult and requires a concentration check (DC 10 + the grappler’s CMB + the level of the spell you’re casting). Pinned creatures can only cast spells that do not have somatic components." It is our opinion that the condition should also be updated to match but until errata or an FAQ is provided indicating such, we will not alter the actual text.
Not much I can do, I cant get out of the grapple and going to be a pain to cast definsevely taking damage and being attacked by the lady that the rest of the group wanted with us.
Firmly gripping the sword in his hand, Orion is untouched by the sudden appearance of tentacles: "Your arrogance will be your downfall, vile creature!" With these words, he moves directly at her and swings, but misreading the distance and starting the downward motion early.
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