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pauljathome wrote:

Ed Reppert wrote:

pauljathome wrote:

Welcome to the internet

I would imagine I got "here" before most people. My first introduction to what has become the Internet was in 1982 or so.

Newbie :-) :-). Been on what would become the internet since early 1981 :-) :-)

lol I had a TRS 80 around that time with a 300 baud modem. Had a swanky audio cassette drive too. ;)

Jokers. It was 1978, and some weird dude brought a “machine” with “buttons” to my kindergarten. Pretty sure it was made out of cardboard and red cellophane. It may have had a primitive digital display. It did…nothing.

But a few years later a kid down the road from me had a Speak and Spell.

Hey guys, have had a couple near-mortality events in my family over the past couple weeks/days so I’m pulling out before I get too far in or any more strung out. Take care and love your peeps at all times, cherish all the moments you have!

Sapper works for me. I ran a face to face PF2e game for my brother and our boys in which they were a military unit.

I started the Campaign mid-combat with one of them down/injured (randomly determined for the win!) and penned in by a band of gnolls who had the higher ground.

I also gave the party three "bombes" as part of their unit cache.

Ok, Tiefling Warlock. S10, D12, Co12, In12, Wi14, Ch16.

Str 10 (2 points) = 10
Dex 12 (4 points) = 12
Con 12 (4 points) = 12
Int 11 (3 points) +1 = 12
Wis 14 (7 points) = 14
Cha 14 (7 points) +2 = 16

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Unless 5e is more generous with stat derived modifiers, that looks...s++#e.

So you could have 15, 15, 15, 8, 8, 8 if you wanted to min/max, but being unable to have a 16, 17, or 18? Is this even DnD?!?! I mean, sure...there are racials...but...sheesh. And if you want "no penalties" you are constrained to 14, 14, 14, 10, 10, 10.

I mean, if those are the rules you are going with I'll abide, but it is kinda shocking.

What would you prefer instead?

(I'm ok with the point-buy system presented.)

Well, I've never liked point buy, but I used it for most of PF1, and in PF2 it doesn't make a lot of sense to roll.

I prefer to roll.

But as I said, if this is GMO's will, I will abide.

Unless 5e is more generous with stat derived modifiers, that looks...shite.

So you could have 15, 15, 15, 8, 8, 8 if you wanted to min/max, but being unable to have a 16, 17, or 18? Is this even DnD?!?! I mean, sure...there are racials...but...sheesh. And if you want "no penalties" you are constrained to 14, 14, 14, 10, 10, 10.

I mean, if those are the rules you are going with I'll abide, but it is kinda shocking.

I find THIS SRD cleaner than the OGN/d20pfsrd family one…

Oooh. Forgot about Tiefling. Might do that instead of Half-orc. I made exactly one 4e character and that was a Tiefling Warlock.

Hey, that’s an idea. I know there isn’t an SRD, but how about 4e instead? ;)

Ok, ok. I'll play. A post a day keeps the doctor away....

Warlock. If that is in the PHB. Likely human. Though Half-Orc would be more fitting...

Don't do it Obermind!!! It will infect all of you with it's evilness, debasement and sheer bankruptcy! Or at the very least the advantage/disadvantage mechanic will pretend not to be completely lazy design...

Haha. Have fun. If you can! ;)

Well, I’m not submitting a character, but I’ll see what the dice say…

4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 2, 5) = 12 = 11
4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 1, 4) = 13 = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 4, 4) = 16 = 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 5, 6) = 15 = 14
4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 6, 5) = 18 = 15
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 1, 5) = 16 = 15

4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 4, 6) = 16 = 14
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 2, 6) = 15 = 13
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 2, 4) = 11 = 10
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 6, 3) = 14 = 12
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 5, 1) = 12 = 11
4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 2, 1) = 8 = 7

Stellar.

@Lil Eschie - there seems to be a lot of competing and confusing moving parts here.

Can we get some clarity?

This is ADnD 1e.

Is the PHB in its entirety allowed? Psionics?

Is UA in its entirety allowed?

How are stats generated? It’s clear that it is 4d6, drop lowest. Three sets of rolls? So essentially three character sets, and you pick your best set?

We....elll.....I *do* like to roll some dice. Never heard of rolling three characters outside of the Dark Sun "stable" of characters concept.

4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 2, 2) = 11 = 9
4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 2, 1) = 9 = 8
4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (3, 6, 1, 6) = 16 = 15
4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 5, 4) = 16 = 13
4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 6, 5) = 18 = 16
4d6, dust of disappearance on lowest: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 1, 1) = 9 = 8

Yup. Looks like a Half-Orc Fighter to me.

I dare not enter the Forgotten Realms. They are best left…forgotten.

That reminds me - I vote for max HP at level 1 hahaha.

ADnD 1e? Max HP 1st level?

All Ranger party… ;P

I mean…”all half-orc” does therefore remove all the annoying smallfolk from at least the party. And Albion loves Half-Orcs…

Yep! Happy to disagree!

Also Daniel, I just wanted to chime in and say I thought your Evil Organisation writeup in the Evil Campaign thread was a thing of exquisite (if entirely disquieting and totally creepy) elegance and beauty. Nicely written, well thought out. Everything fit quite thematically, from the belief in the Road as holy liminal space/place and also deliverer to the grades within the organisation. I’ll have to check out the Indian source material!

It’s possible I might be interested. My vote would be for 1e.

I prefer to use all the options in the Players Handbook, so yes to Bards and Psionics.

I also consider Unearthed Arcana totes legit. I don’t believe the rules for demihumans level caps are balanced any more than I believe the rules for classes in the PH are balanced any more than I believe the classes in UA are any more unbalanced than the PH ones. It’s all a conplete hot mess, but that is, I feel an attraction of the nostalgia of the system.

Having said that, I probably wouldn’t play a Cavalier, or a Barbarian, or a Thief-Acrobat. I always loved to play NPC classes from Dragon magazine (though I usually came across them in Best of Dragon volumes) like…the Bandit or the Sentinel that had next to no class features, or the Archer, which sadly…did. It was pretty gonzo, as was the Archer-Ranger, which I might agree was a straight up gain in terms of power.

There was a Monk rework and a Bard-as-1st-level-start straight up class in Dragon too - they were both pretty well written. And then there was the Half-Ogre….good times.

@GYP - yep, that is a good reason!

There is a reason I don't do point buy. :3

What is your reason?

Heh. I don’t have a horse in this race. I’m not interested in the premise but I am interested in transparency and fair warning.

I have seen many, many Recruitments and interested threads with “interesting” premises or lots of homebrew with over-long gestations that end up vaporware before they reach 50 posts; and as Rizzenmagnus attests, they have had plenty of games “crap out”. If more time in prep means a more sustainable game, more power to you.

I’m no GM on these boards and I’ve made plenty of posts thanking GMs for their tireless work, that many times goes unheralded. It’s a big commitment, and if you really want to run a game, go for it. But if you keep posting interest threads, and starting games that end up failing then maybe, yeah, take your time with it.

Then again, there’s nothing worse for prospective players than waiting around for a month or two while the whole rigmarole of the game gets going only for it to fade out like so many others.

Rizz. The encounters won’t flow if you don’t start the game. How many games that have extended formulation, overlong recruitments and non-typical themes/character generation actually get going around here?

Sorry you lost your post!

Yep, I geddit. Not as narrative as PbtA, but a little moreso than say, PF. And with some mechanics to hasten combats.

I didn’t mean to cast aspersions by saying a “good game” doesn’t need narrative tools, more that the tools feel artificial and force the story rather than let it emerge organically. But who is to say, perhaps a little nudge and then some organic storytelling from there on…

Skeld wrote:

Off topic...

Steve Geddes wrote:

Thankyou

Steve! You're alive! Good to see you again!

-Skeld

Sad post to comment on but hey. It’s good to see some friendly faces still around.

Well you have been very quiet over the past few years….Why…I remember when there was a blog post all about….you! Nice to hear from you Steve! Paizo and the forums wouldn’t be the same without you.

All good, thanks for asking brvheart. I see you are still carrying the flame! I’ll leave you all to it!

Just gonna roll coz I like runes…olls.

And I’ll go 5d5, best 3 + 3 coz I’m also lazy.

5d5 ⇒ (5, 4, 4, 4, 1) = 18 544+3 = 16
5d5 ⇒ (3, 2, 3, 5, 3) = 16 353+3 = 14
5d5 ⇒ (4, 1, 1, 1, 3) = 10 431+3 = 11
5d5 ⇒ (2, 2, 5, 4, 3) = 16 543+3 = 15
5d5 ⇒ (3, 4, 1, 4, 3) = 15 443+3 = 14
5d5 ⇒ (2, 2, 5, 5, 5) = 19 555+3 = 18

Nice system. I like it. If only there was a class in all those allowed options I’d like to play enough to go back to PF1… Vigilante perhaps? Slayer? Samurai? Probably not.

4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 2, 1) = 8 = 4532 12
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 3, 1) = 11 = 5235 13
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 3, 4) = 15 = 6234 13
4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 2, 5) = 15 = 3525 13
4d6 ⇒ (1, 3, 2, 6) = 12 = 3326 12
4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 3, 5) = 11 = 6235 14

5d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 1, 1, 6) = 16

2d6 ⇒ (5, 3) = 8

Wow. 12 13 13 13 12 14.

Sounds like a plan. Just want to make sure we maintain some momentum…

Reading the Weekly Roll webcomic now has me hankering for engaging in another, more beer and pretzels/murderhobo campaign, replete with wacky class and race combos…

Alitja wrote:

Rianna Tommas wrote:

A question for the group. It looks like half have Darkvision and half don't?

Rianna would cast Dancing lights before descending. Any objections?

Warning - bad language. Darkvision

Sorry. Too busy reading all the comics. I may…be..a while.

Yeah. Becket is my all time favorite Paladin. especially when he snaps. :)

Yep, he is definitely long suffering. I love the art (Torvald rocks!!!!) and although other people have trodden this trope/style well before (Rich Burlew(?), Zogonia, Knights of the Dinner Table, Downer, even Wormy and Snarfquest back in the day) it’s still very funny.

Many many thanks for sharing!!!

That’s a great summation of the system and, more importantly, the reasons.
I’ve never fully understood it as I do now, so thanks. I think it might take me a little to get used to in terms of just exactly where the line is between “adventurer-conversant competency” and “actual trained-only specific skill/knowledge/ability”, and how time and/or danger intersect that.

I’ll also say that the downside is that there is a possibility/danger inherent that we will (shock, horror) roll less dice, which as every mature personage knows is why we play wizard-games. All jokes aside, I’m going to be describing what I’m having Alitja do and we will see how it goes.

Personally, the problem *I* have with players spamming skill rolls is that it tends to be “forceful” in that it forces the narrative to bend toward the player agency - the player has determined what should be attempted, or the result of their narration. In my early days of PbP I would sometimes narrate a finely crafted, well imagined and powerful Intimidation, or Diplomacy post, and then roll the dice only to have the roll not match the narration. Which, while not exactly a problem for the DM in terms of changing where agency lies, is still…odd.

Now a well equipped DM (in terms of being in full control of their faculties) can always dismiss an errant/unnecessary/uncalled for roll, but it is a system that rather than leaving the DM as the arbiter of the world, creates a tension that to my mind becomes unbalanced, particularly if some players are more (or less) “active”. It’s definitely a far cry from my first days of PbP - I just “did as the Romans did”, and rolled tor everything! It didn’t hurt that I love rolling that RNG, or that my idea of having fun in RPGs is not “winning” or even having my character “succeed” but to have interesting things happen, some randomly through the RNG, some by the interactions of the player characters and some via the agency of the DM…

Alright - updated Dramatis Personae:

Lil Eschie - Myankar, Male Dwarf Monk
OSW- Alitja, Female Half-Orc Druid of Kamien
Johawn - Rhobbeldas Knucklefoot, Male Halfling Cleric of Mick O’Delving
DBH - Rianna Tommas, Female Human Bard
Bombadil - Corianne, Female Elf Wizard (Evoker)
Veniir - Dwarf (?) Barbarian (?)

Alright - current Dramatis Personae:

Lil Eschie - Myankar, Male Dwarf Monk
OSW- Half-Orc Druid of Kamien
Johawn - Rhobbeldas Knucklefoot, Male Halfling Cleric of Mick O’Delving
DBH - Bard or Rogue; Wizard or Sorceror?
Bombadil - Corianne, Female Elf Wizard (Evoker)
Veniir - Dwarf (?) Barbarian (?)

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Ok, the brvheart list then . First time I opened the link it took me to two posts up, with the brvheart post at the bottom of my page. Have replicated following the link a few times and it lands on brvheart’s post.

Going to be a follower of an aspect of Kamien; who also has a tribal custom of venerating Bowbe. Which helps when a little…angry. ;p

Bowbe feels a bit of a weird influence for a Druid - God of War and Slaughter, known as Bowbe the Bloody, Bowbe the Baleful, Bowbe the Bearskin, Bowbe the Berserker. Domains are Chaos, Strength, Vengeance, War. Usually worshipped by barbarians, raiders, reavers, and plunderers.

But I'll be looking forward to see what you do with it :D

Sorry if it wasn’t clear, though I could see a feral druid turn to Bowbe as a god pf nature’s vengeance, I’ll primarily be a follower of Kamien the River Goddess. Bowbe comes in from the orc/tribal side more as a customary tradition.

Feels like the party is missing a full bab melee. Thinking to balance offense and defense, I came up with a dwarf barbarian. Opinions?

Yep, Barbarian would do nicely.

Ok, the brvheart list then . First time I opened the link it took me to two posts up, with the brvheart post at the bottom of my page. Have replicated following the link a few times and it lands on brvheart’s post.

Going to be a follower of an aspect of Kamien; and who also has a tribal custom of venerating Bowbe. Which helps when a little…angry. ;p

Heh. “Fairy old-skool” is a bit different than “fairly old-skool”.

@Obermind - given the Lost Lands is a fairy old-skool setting themewise, where every greenskin needs to be put down with extreme prejudice, do you want me to go human rather than half-orc?

I get that we are already at the Shrieking Hollow and the likely discrimination on the caravan (?) and in Fairhill is “in the past” and now not very important…but moving forward, I don’t want to mess with the Campaign Setting.

@Obermind - are we 5, or 6 or 7? Only five have popped in so far:

Lil Eschie - Myankar, Male Dwarf Monk
OSW- Half-Orc Druid
Johawn - Cleric?
DBH - Bard or Rogue; Wizard or Sorceror?
Bombadil - Fighter or Wizard or Rogue?

Starting workin" on my monk (Lil"Eschie)

Myankar character sheet

That might be the first Dwarf I have ever liked! Generous AND doesn’t drink. Nice one Lil Eschie!

As for maps, if it is a Google doc that isn’t editable by us, then having the grid A-Z/1-26 top/bottom and sides…etc would help us tell you where we want to go…

@Obermind - there seem to be a few lists in that Frog God Games/Lost Lands deities thread, Dragnmoon, Grimmy and brvheart all posted a bunch. Which one/s are we using?

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A—B-C- D- E—F

Don’t forget there are symbols like the above GMO. Bit hard to use on a phone, but if you are on a PC you might be able to rough out a map. I added the A-F and 1-6 on my phone, and cut and paste the grid from my alias - I think I found it on one pf Ravingdork’s posts. You might be able to get it to 10x10 grid or more…I also had to move it down my post to get it to line up after my alias pic….also the letters aren’t…great but with some experimentation perhaps you could perfect the grid….I dunno, hard on my phone…

If we are using theatre of the mind, we could use the Near/Far/whatever is beyond Far paradigm Professor Dungeon Master and other OSR folk use…

Hi all, looking to play a Half-Orc Druid, though if the current unpleasantnesses with surrounding orcs outside Farhill means half-orcs are off the table/basically unwelcome, fine, I’ll play human.

I’m Morgan, been playing RPGs since about…1982 I think, and played a lot of different systems over the years. I tinker and homebrew a lot, and PF1 had some fantastic and interesting classes and options….but have *mostly* moved on to PF2 but Obermind keeps me grounded with OSR and PF1 games…

I post mostly from my phone, from home, at work…whatever works. It does mean some maps are hard for me to see - Obermind - how are we doing mapping?

Albion, The Eye wrote:

Should it be 'Modiphius' Elton? :)

Uh, no?

Elton, it is “Modiphius”, not “Mophidius”.

Modiphius Entertainment

@Critzible, I’m not sure you are following. In ADnD, 1st edition, you don’t….can’t “get Monk abilities” because of your deity. In fact I don’t even remember deities doing all that much…I mean…I just checked my copy of Deities and Demigods for ADnD 1e and no deity or demigod even mentions benefits, spells or anything for adherents/believers….About the only interaction is…you having to have the exact same alignment as your god, and that your higher level spells, from the generic “all cleric” list, need to be provided directly by your god…

AdnD 1e Clerics have…spells, armor, they Turn undead and…that’s about it. They can’t use edged weapons. Because that would be “weird”. Yay.

was wondering about the Specialty priests

I’m pretty sure “Priests” are ADnD 2e. Specialty Priests too. Original ADnD had…Clerics. And Druids.

Hmm, at those levels, Monks are almost useful and Thieves don’t usually fail at all of their abilities!

How about Psionics? It *is* in the PHB, and the chances of successfully rolling Psionic aptitude/ability is incredibly low…

Can commit. Marching order. Tracked encumbrance, light sources, rations and ammo. Running away. Got it.

Posting in such a way that it interacts with others and the environment, and “pushes” the narrative. Got it.

Am currently not in *any* games. I think my max was 11 games at once, but that was only as a player and some of them were…glacial.

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Interest? Check!

I would play in a game with this guy. ;)

Been a long time since my first PF2 game, Jace. Funnily enough, am thinking of Druid again, but seeing as PF1 Core doesn’t stretch the edge(lord) to hobgoblins, I’m going Half-Orc…

Interest? Check!