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ok from the looks of thing the soonest id be playing this character would have it at level 4 if my Fighter Dies in the game im in

So for feats something like

1 Power Attack
HB (Traded out for focused study = Skill focus stealth)
2 Two weapon Fighting
3 Not sure
4 weapon Focus (Via talent)
5 Double Slice

I guess Two Questions then

1: I know i can build around strength but would it more useful to build Dex if im going a Stealth build. I know hellcat stealth is cool but still
-10 to skill seems not good to me.

would going something like
1 Weapon finesse
HB (Traded out for focused study = Skill focus stealth)
2 Two weapon fighting
3 Deadly Agility
4 Weapon focus (via talent)
5 Double slice

I guess what should my Stealth Bonus look like by the time i can take hellcat stealth ?


out of combat ? Id say a scout , some one who is decently Knowledgeable
I am not good at playing party faces so not that

IM currently running an Archer in a a game well 4 and My perception is very decent.

Idk if id be able to play this character where talking about so it might be tabled to later unless my archer bites the dust.

i started with fighter but since my archer is also a fighter Id figure i should consider the slayer option

Id be stuck playing a human for game story and lore reasons
and I like the idea of my character Being skilled with two Blades even if its not the most effective at dealing damage. I actually see my character as Dirty scoundrel who will do what he needs to do to win a fight but the idea of having some useful skills and ability out of combat could be fun i think


What would My Damage out put look like as a slayer?
Assume a STR Mod of 18 (20 With a Belt)

I Kind of want to see if I can VMC as a bard and take the Human Trait Silver Tongue to see if can be useful out of combat as well


Can I get Feats for a slayer with a similar concept ?

ill consider what one ill enjoying playing for longer after i can compare the builds side by side


ah ok that makes since

ya I know I want to play a spell cartridge using bounty hunter style character so this will help . My problem was the fact that range characters tend to take a lot of feats

Im running a level 4 Mystic Tier 2 character who is a path of war Fighter variant and i swear i still do not feel like i get enough feats lol


@ Belafon

How would spell cartridges and vital strike interact if at all?

Wondering if doing a long barrel sniper could be done? more just wanna know so i have the knowledge.


@Belafon

Thanks That ill help a lot

I though I Saw some where Deadly aim dose not work with fire arms, I take it that was wrong ?


@ Belafon

Ya...thats a lot

Maybe Id go something more toward what Dragonchess Player Suggested

the 2nd one seems fun


Melkiador wrote:
Bloodrager actually gets full caster level. It's weird like that.

I see. Urban Bloodrager Increase Dex ?

Any Bloodline that help boost my damage ?


Belafon wrote:

Since you are planning to dual-wield you likely won't be casting many spells in combat. There's a couple of full BAB options if that's interesting to you.

Fighter (Child of Acavna and Amaznen) has full BAB and full caster level, and some good armor training. Spell selection isn't as good as a magus.

Bloodrager is another full BAB class that has arcane spells. Urban is a good archetype as it lets you increase your Dex. And if using a swift action every turn is a concern, Blooded Arcane Strike means you automatically get Arcane Strike while bloodraging without spending an action. Caster level is a bit lower but Magical Knack can make up most of that.

I see that fighter dose seem to be more what im looking for at first glance

so I am curious....What all typical range feats would work here
Point Blank, Rapid shot (I dont think Deadly Aim works)

I guess for a level 10 Build what feats would you suggest ?


I want to craft a Magical Gun Man who uses is arcane energy as Power for his To Guns

Im just not sure what class to take

I want him to dual wield and be a good mix of martial classes for good BAB but still be able to have a strong caster level for arcane Strike and spell cartridges

I assume the simple answer is Magus but was wondering if there was any other 2/3 BAB class i could have him be


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Simple question dose having the former allow a character to take latter?


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looking to have a few non standard arrow options

I have regular steel Arrow
Mithril arrows
Cold Iron Arrows

but any that do anything besides damage ?


Do they interact Or would they not work together?
I Don't know and Don't want to invest toward this if they do not.


looking at doing a Half orc Brawler who uses Stuff like shield slam and spike destroyer as His Main combat tactic. I want him two be able to shield bash and and bullrush allowing for stuff like spike Destroyer to come in to play.

Id be looking at a level 7 build but I'm not sure of my feat my progression.


Java Man wrote:
5e? What's that?

That should be 1e

I must of miss typed it


What do I need to take for my character to be able to get Dex to His CMB in place of Strength.

The weaponn in question is Shang gou or Hook Swords
The Maneuver is the Disarming combat maneuver

Would taking weapon Finesse be enough for it or Dose it require something else?


I found that Hook Swords are a thing in 5e, named Shang Gou .

Id like to build a martial who uses them effectively to Disarm his foes and Either get in Sneak Attack or AoOs .

I am thinking either

A Brawler if I can Brawler Flurry with them and use unarmed strikes via kicks
B Fighter just do to the number of feats
C Slayer due being able to get Two weapon Fighting feats easily and sneak attack
D Unchained monk


Claxon wrote:

So I firstly want to say that Pathfinder doesn't do much in the way of representing "techniques" of any fighting style.

At best you might have a specific archetype that gives you some specific abilities that might hit that flavor. But largely being a master of melee combat is just about doing the most damage, doing it before your enemy, and being able to do it basically all the time.

I don't see sneak attack as that kind of thing, mostly because of how conditional it can be.

Also, OP I'm curious about your wording about "being a threat to all but the most seasoned males"...that's some very odd wording. Why wouldn't you simply say you envision your character as being a threat to any but the most seasoned warriors? Because it Pathfinder fantasy land, there are plenty of badass women warriors.

And to further address your post, again Pathfinder doesn't really have "grace and style with technique" over strength and power. Unless you just mean you want to be a dex based fighter over a strength based fighter. But there's very little in the rules that cover "style" or "technique". It's very abstract. Swashbuckler probably comes the closest though.

Oh I didn't realize I put Male I think I meant melee ( Think I spelled it wrong in my opening post at the time ) but my tablet tried to help

and put Male xD .

But I'll have to mull over the replies I got x,x


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@ Temperans

I guess I mean in actual flexibility and technique with His sword
Like I know if it came down to it I could go POW but would lie to avoid that as my group uses that a lot

I mean I'd woukd like to keep away from being a caster, I like to be able to use Manuvers , truth be told if I could I'd use Hook Swords and go Disarming build


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So what would be a good build for a leaf and Thorn Blade Elf ?
Or more so a class for it. I know a fighter be easy cause of the feats
But I'm just not feeling Fighter for a class for this


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Looking play a Elfish character who is a young war veteran and aims to improve his Skills to Near Divine Status. He Barely survived the war and dose not want to feel weak or be in a position where his lack of skill or battle ability put others at risk.

He wants to be able to face any Non_Magical foe with no fear and even be a threat to all but the most seasoned males.

I'm looking to Build a Dex Based Swords man .
I am however unsure of a few things

Should I focus on Two handing with a Elven curve blade or would using a elven thorn and leaf blade be doable.

Should I try for a powder attack or sneak attack build .

I like some actual SwordsmanShip and not just wak the enemies with my sword.

I would prefer grace & style with technique over brute strength and power


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@ DungeonmasterCal
Ya He is going to be good. Just not sure if lawful or chaotic

@Trokarr vigilante could be a chance to test my role-play Skills

@ Dragonchess Player: ya I could see that. I'll type it out and see how it looks

@ Matthew Morris: I want to Tso weapon fight with Shield and Axe but also want to trigger stuff like Shatter Defense. I'd go Ranger combat style at level 2 and so on what one would be a better choice ?


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Ok Porbally going with The slayer Build Ryze suggested

I know no Build is perfect and I really have my heart set on Thunder and Fang and playing a Intimdation Build sounds cool

Is there any Statgies or tips I can get for combat ?
I'm sure it's pretty obvious but u want to make sure I'm not Over looking any thing


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@ Ryze Kuja

I see your point about being a one Trick pony

Could I get Advice on A Half Elf Switch Hitter slayer?


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Ok still looking at going Slayer.
Any recommend races for this. Like something that can benefit the build but may not be most people's first choice.


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Been really wanting to play a Weapon and Shield user and I know I recently made a post about doing A Viking (Fighter) but I've realized two of my past 3 characters have been fighters and then I though slayer might work.

My feat list is based on if I'm Human But I'd like to see if playing a non-Human woukd be doable

LV1: WF Earth Breaker
LV1: WF Klarc
LV2: TWF / Slayer Talent
LV3: Thunder and Fang
Lv4: Slayer Talent / Combat Trick =???
LV5 ???
LV6 Shield Master
LV7 ???

Need to fill in the gap in my feat list
I'd also like to try and Play non Human Race but not sure what one


DeathlessOne wrote:

Oh, the fun I have had with this particular archetype. I mostly built my Viking out of a Halfling with Cautious Fighter and used an Earthbreaker and Klar but there have been some tasty releases since I dusted off that character build.

If you are already going to take Shield Focus as a feat, consider Upsetting Shield Style and Unhindering Shield. If you were inclined to do so, you could dip a level or two of monk (as Viking does not preclude a lawful alignment), and still use that buckler for its Shield AC, all the while bashing people with it.

Could I ask for a sample feat list ?


Ok so I just found the Viking Archetype for Fighter and I like it

Problem is I can see my character being Either a Half Orc or Dwarf
And going either toward and intimidation style build mostly cause of the (Fearsome) feature or a sword and Board style with a strong good 1 handed Axe war-Axe or battle Axe and a shield (Doing Shield Bashes and stuff

So what would work better for a feat set up

Intimidation
1: WF - Battle-axe / War-Axe
1: Shield focus
2: Dazzling display
3: intimating Prowess
4: Weapon spec
5: Hurtful
6 Shatter Defense
7 ??? Not sure

Or sword (Axe) and Board
1 WF Battle-axe / War-Axe
1 Shield focus
2 Improved Shield Bash
3 power Attack
4 Stumbling Bash
5 TWF
6 Shield Slam
7 Weapon Spec


@ Mysterious Stranger

LOOKS DECENT THOUGHT I WANT THE ABILTY TO DISARM FOES.

What other slayers talents should I consider?


I've been itching to play a Strong and Agile Warrior who efficiently and effectively wields a pair of Axes. I had originally wanted to wield a pair of Battle Axes but soon realized it be like wielding a pair of longswords and that it be easier to wield a pair of hand Axes as they are basically what short- Swords or to long Swords but for Axes and still invoke the image I want for my character.

I am Stuck between Choosing Slayer or Brawler

I want some out of combat utility but I also want incombat utility such as Disarm and sunder and maybe even the ability to Trip. Damage is important but not to point of giving up all utility

Race can be any though I'd like to avoid that if doable , just Been getting a little bland playing human after human ?

I see my charactercas strong and fit but very Agile as well
For mental stats I see if as being mostly average with a bit of wisdom from being seasoned Warrior. I view him as being middle age he's not a newcomer to the ways of combat


I understand Dragons are very powerful and have well earn there reputation

I'd like to see what my classes options are.

I've recently retired a human fighter (used Archery) but for about 3 missions felt uses cause I could not hit the targets there Ac was stupid high (48+) and one was cause the dragon created a blizzard

I`D like to pay a Anti-Dragon swordsmen / Knight

I think there is a paladin for this.
If there is. What feats would be recommend?


Well I suppose I should say the main enemies are a Group of Dragons and 5herr are various Dragon like enemy as well as Demon's
But those are the main baddies

Last time I was there we encountered a green Dragon and I could not Hit with a total roll of 49 .....
Was playing a Human Fighter that specialized in Archery

Truth be told I am not sure if the Dragon Ac was stupid High or we where just not suppose to fight him so GM plot armor for the Dragon but still I like to state the main enemies my group will face

Truth be told my main Trick Will to try to confused said powerful enemies to act like a stun on them so are main melee has a turn or 2 to hopefully wail on them


I have wealth of a 10th level character and am planning to buy a Heavy Cross bow with uo to +3 Bonus

I know just going the +3 can be good but was wondering if there is any note worthy + 1 or 2 Enchantment I could pick.

Are main enemies are Dragons and Demon's
I know I could go holy but am not really feeling it


Ok what are some must have feats and Discoveries for a mad bomber
I like to know what are needed to make it work and what levels to take them.

Say up to level 12 ?


Any suggestions on what extracts I should start the game knowing?

I'll take infusion by level 7 want to get at least 1 or 2 more types of Bomb .

Just have Regular Bombs (yes gave up and went to generic Alchemsit )

Took Precise Bombs at level 2

My feats are 1 PBS 3 Precise Shot

I am a Teifling if I did not mention that


STATS are what they are I can not switch them

15 INT / Race +2 = 17
14 Con
13 Dex / Race +2 = 15
12 WIS
10 STR
8 CHA / Race -2 Lmao = 6

Need Advice on my first 3 Feats and first two Discoveries

I known Feral Mutagen is a good one so likely my First choice for For my Discoveries but I am unsure of my 4Th level Discovery when I get there n

And not sure what feats I should use / Take

1
3 Current level
5


I am going to build a Invunerable Rager and flavor it around The Nemean lion

I of course want to be a race that is either A lion person or re-flavor to be lion like

I could also use advice on My nartual attack
As I would like to Eventually Rend with my Claws

I know Beast Totem (Greater Beast Totem) will be patircuarlly good cause of Pounce

I am starting a level 3 but could I get advice on my first 10 levels?


I have a level 3 Barbarian I'll be playing and I am unsure of what feats and rage powers I should take for the first 5 levels (planning too levels Ahead)

I am only starting with 12 STR so i sadly Don't quallfy for power Attack, My normal go to for Barbarians

Any Advice on my first 3 feats

Also Iam torn between Reckless Abandon and Superstitious what would be better

I have 19 Ac and 1 DR with resistance 5 Fire cold and electric

But not sure if I'll need more to hit, I can boost my STR to 18.

Planning on a Great Axe for a weapon .


Planning on playing a 3rd party class that comes with the feature Jotungrip and I'd like some input on what weapon I should wield and how I plan this Character out.

The class is Oni. From Of Stranger Bonds

I get a lot Barbarian Features

I know a club /spiked club is classic oni but I want too get some fun ideas

Sadly my strength is a Fearsome 12 so I don't even get to take power Attack yet

But any interesting idea for a weapon I can use with Jotungrip? Pazio and 3pp allowed


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In this game we are playing Are selfs. Or as close to as possible as if we been transported to a fantasy world.

Well we are meeting this Saturday to discuss are stats.

I do know we are using this spread

15
14
13
12
10
8

Being now or us are very strong we mostly don't think any of us would be a full martial
except maybe me and only cause I have a temper that might make a very sad excuse for a Barbarian

But with those stats would would be possible
I know it's vague but I want to get and idea for what I could possibly pull off with "my" stats


Can some one explain to me what I'd get out off Look out on a inqusitor I'm building
I want to know if it be worth taking

Archery build BTW


I'd like Advice on my rage powers and my Feate

I know power Attack Should be one I Grab ASAP but I'm not sure my other feats or my rage powers

I tend to be a walking Juggernaut style character who swings around an earth breaker

Has to be human cause where suppose to be playing are selfs


I'm locked in To playing a Barbarian and want to play a person who breaks down doors , sunder stuff, be very Destructive.

I was wondering what my options where

For feats , archetype and rage powers

Planning on using an earth breaker as my weapon


I'm locked in To playing a Barbarian and want to play a person who breaks down does, sunder stuff, be very Destructive.

I was wondering what my options where

For feats , archetype and rage powers

Planning on using an earth breaker as my weapon


@ Ryze Kuja

Actually you offered to show me a dex version of the brawler . Mind doing so please?


@ MrCharisma oh ok. I get ya . Ya I am a fan of polearms

@ VoodistMonk ah I see what you did there .I never heard off Incredible Heft is it a feat ? I guess I can look it up

@ Kurald Galain OK I can see that being cool.

@ Ryze Kuja sorry just asking questions so I learn..lol
Your Brawler Dirty Trickster looks good . But what do i do for those immune to Trip
Do I just debuff with Dirty Trick ?


@ MrCharisma

Looks good

I would probably start at level 5 like I do in most games
But seems cool

But how do I charge in full plate and strike 75 feet

I assume 30 feet move Charge is is 60 so reach weapon is and extra 5 feet so lunge 70 sorry I'm bad at math v,v

Actually could you give me an example of a Unchained Monk using a Fauchard

I like the idea of using Aoo and cleave and being able to use Stunning Fist via Asetic style


@ DeathlessOne, ya it loos cool seems Defensive but really strong
The VMC cavalier on That type Brawler seem really cool.
I want to play more of a support roll next time I play instead of being the main DPS , but don't want to be a face cause I suck at those.

@ VoodistMonK

Rangers are cool but I have fallen more for slayers since converting from 3.5 to pathfinder 1e

Barbarian are fun but I woukd like to contribute if only a little out of combat. Either scouting or something.

@ Mark Hoover 330
Oh I get ya, I understand the cons of powergaming . I just want a decent built character who can fill the roll I want .

@ Ryze Kuja

Those do look cool in my mind p. How would you do a Great Axe / half Great Hammer?

Also that dirty trick brawler looks seems cool
I just imagine some getting knocked prone and getting the bloody crap stomped out of them

Also Dirty tricks have always seem nifty. Being able to debuff as a martial seems cool and I am guessing as long asi can reason it with the Gm I can use it on a lot more than I can Trip. Such kicking dirt in eyes are striking a male creatures gooey bits lol

hey woukd there be away to make a dirty fightimg brawler with Alchemical uses like vmc Alxhemsit . I like the idea of using alchemical stuff / use stuff like caltrops in a Grease area o.o


DeathlessOne wrote:
Nosta1300 wrote:
What order did you choose?
Order of the Eastern Star. I specifically focused on being incredibly hard to hit, and hitting like a literal mack-truck so they couldn't ignore me. There is some information in this post about what I focused on, but it is mostly the breakdown of the possible limits of his armor class. I never took it that far.

May I ask what feats you went with ?

The build some instresting to me

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