4.0, being the marketing scam that it is, won't replace 3.5 for me. I've spent too long and too much money on 3.5 to start over again. The Star Wars RPG complex is still a bitter memory to me, and this only sours my interest in WotC products. Nevertheless I feel if this contains all the tiny minor rules scattered across the hundreds of sources from vague references in background books like the Drow book, to articles from Dungeon and Dragon (RiP) I'll be happy. As the description reads, it will be give me a lot less to carry and GM's more access to the crazy rules their players keep tauting as law.
I too am very saddened. Not the feeling of having been screwed by someone, rather the sad knowledge that a dear friend is going away forever. My predictions for WotC's online edition would fall somewhere in line with Mongoose's Signs and Portents magazine which, similiar to the D n D mags, used to be in print. It is now a monthly downloadable that is supposedly very successful. Personally, I much prefer reading a magazine. Anyway, with this new Pathfinder fun, with the shackles of specific restrictions cast off, is there the potential for some new material to be more adult in theme?
Add my name to the pool of people disappointed they'll never see their own Dungeon adventure. I think it would ease the pain of our iconic magazine's demise if Paizo perhaps created a submission guideline for the likes of it's Gamesmastery line and future Pathfinder publications. Heh, I don't even know what email address to use anymore.
So with Matt snowed under with CA's I was thinking of spreading my wings further and querying some other area's of Dragon, specifically the feature section. How does one go about this? Is it similiar to Dungeon whereby I'd give a brief, 1000 word synopsis of the article? Or is it more akin to CA's where I just send a hella list of one or two paragraph ideas? In fact could someone remind me exactly what has to go to who as well? Thanks a bunch.
Question: Would it be considered poor form to include a drawn map as part of a query? I'm finding having to add description to simple caves as a real word count killer. However without them the query itself loses a sense of place. So would I be shooting myself in the foot, as it were? And if so, how do You go about describing the generic rooms of your dungeon within a query?
Well from what I remember of the drunken conversation I had with my Star Wars buddy, they intend to make the Jedi classes (which were two in the original core book - Consular and Guardian, which went up to 3+ in the supplements, including sentinel etc) into one single class. Some of the other classes will be removed (I think the idea of having four or five classes is the concept they are working with). No skill points (Using True20 as the basis). Traditional Hit Points, and generally focusing their game around mini's.
Well it's certainly a quandary thats for sure. People raise the issue of lower sales, profitability, etc and many will jump to the conclusion that more books (or minis) need to be put out there to address this shift in balance. I don't think this is always the case. For one our world is changing thanks largely to the internet and the expanding possibilities of online gaming. Secondly, as a consumer of tabletop roleplay products I can say that a book has to be worthwhile to me before I buy it. Now I'm sure there will be many, many people who will buy everything that is released, but I'd estimate that the majority of people are like me whom buy whatever piques their interest or whatever books they need. In regards to new editions, just look at what happened to Star Wars: everyone got angry because of the audacity of wotc for creating new additions to coincide with each film. Of course this is predictable buisness sense, but I don't blame anyone for being angry for having to pay out $30 or whatever for a new book every year until the trilogy is complete so you can get minor rules tweaks and pretty new pictures on the inside/cover. The backlash of this stunted the Star Wars line so much so that only now is it making any forward progress. To me, 3.5 ED is still new. I'd not be too happy if all of a sudden a radical rules change came about in the guise of 4th ED. It would reak of a buisness move, and not a move to make the game more fun - which should be the only reason why we get a 4th edition in the first place.
Rejection is totally part and parcel of the writing world. I 100% agree getting little or no response as to why it was rejected is frustrating, but truth be told I've always been lucky with my responses. In particular, Matt has always given me a good few words as what I can do to improve or why a certain idea wasn't appropriate or acceptable. Now this often isn't the case for Dungeon queries, where in fact I've only ever recieved a personalized (and not the robo-"Thanks for the query, but no" reponse) once or twice. You also must appreciate the amount of stuff they get sent to them. It's frustrating, yes. But you have to live with it.
I'm going to start adding subliminal messages to my queries, featuring my name. One such message will follow each paragraph of real text: Nick Thorburn is great. Nick Thorburn is your friend. You want Nick Thorburn to create your next Adventure Path. You want to make Nick Thorburn a sandwich. Nick Thorburn forever. Etc.
Yeah, I found CC2 to be pretty spiffy in all the adds, demo's etc, but a tad complicated when it came to actually doing it myself. And very time consuming as you noted yourself. My advice is the good old fashioned Pen and Paper. If you need to snazz it up a bit you can always scan and alter it via Photoshop etc.
Heck of a bump here, but I just wanted to quickly add that this website truly rocks. However, one quick question, is the way psionic powers are listed correct? Basically I'm curious as to which DC I should be using in a stat block - the lowest, most basic save DC, or the most powerful, powerpoint infused DC. Thanks.
I know the following doesn't really pertain to this thread of discussion, but has there every been any thought of disgarding the usual standard whereby none MM monsters are given a full stat block? In my own query and adventure writing experience, I am always put off by the fact that none MM critters are such a space filler. I feel almost restricted to use any more than two or three monsters from say MM2, 3, or 4, FF etc. I also seem to add more MM "fodder" monsters (like orcs, grimlocks etc) rather than choose something more appropriate from another source. Anyone else feel this way?
I think one of the issues here is that Dungeon (and Dragon) are produced with everyone in mind. Every article I query has no specific character in mind. I design it for the everyman, and I feel that is the road Dungeon has gone down for a long time now. I don't see it as a bad thing; there is a definate need to try to appeal to as broad a spectrum of readers as possible. Unfortunately this often prevents dungeons or other articles being specifically tailored for a certain breed of players, such as over-the-top flashy (like the bucaneers), tremendously evil, stupid, or whatever other niche character styles I'm sure we've all come up with before. For example, I once ran an adventure inspired by Stan Nichol's Orcs series, where all the players resided in an orcish tribe (they were full orcs, half orcs or goblins). It was a neat little campaign arc, and very original. Would it ever see the light of day in Dungeon? I think not.
Holy bump Batman. I'm a bit hazy on one aspect of the Class Acts (as it pertains, possibly, to one such query that Mike has Okayed from me). I'm also sure I've asked this before, but here goes... Could you define the difference between Alternative Classes and Alternative Class Abilities? Basically if I am creating a class act that is based on the statistics of an existing class (lets say paladin), and change around some of their class features, does that make it fall in the Alternative Class Abilities bracket? What exactly would I have to change in the paladin description/stats to make it the unholy Alternative Class? Name? HD?? Bueller???
Talion, I was really blown away by your query style. I've always tried to write my queries as if I'm conjuring the back page of a novel. Basically I avoid using any real world references and try to have the whole thing read more like a story (as if you were reading it from Dungeon itself). However your query just made so much sense. I don't know which style helps or is preferred more by the Gods of the Gate, but I'm definately giving my own approach a rethink. Keep up the good work.
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Thats really good to hear. But in fear of becoming That whiney guy, I was curious if you've began to give any feedback again. Basically my current crux is that I liked a particular idea within an old, and rejected adventure query. I liked it so much that I've decided to use it again. However, as that query was rejected with no actual reason, I could possibly be setting myself up for fall for exactly the same reasons as last time. Maybe you guys HATED this part of the idea. I don't know. I know it's a pain and it takes time, but even a simple "too long", "crap idea", "poorly written", "CR's too whacky", "not developed enough" would help improve us even further.
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