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James Jacobs wrote:
So, yeah. I'd suggest asking around these boards or googling maps with those tags. Not ideal for someone who isn't reading this post, and maybe not even possible for someone who doesn't have as convenient access to the internet, but hopefully the use of the numbered zones lets someone puzzle it out.

Thank you for the answer.

What you suggest is the quick fix as I can certainly find numerous versions of the Stolen Lands maps on the internet, some with these geographical location tags marked on them. It is just a shame that such map was not contained in the physical AP book itself.

That said I am really looking forward to running this new incarnation of the Kingmaker AP in the near future.


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I asked a variant of this question in the discussion on the product page of the new Kingmaker map folio but perhaps this would be a good place to expand on this discussion as it concerns the new AP release itself.

While reading through the Kingmaker AP I noticed that the book doesn't have a Stolen Lands map or maps that would have the names of all the geographical features of the area like the mountain ranges, rivers, lakes or forests.

The 2nd chapter of the book does contain on pages 56-57 a half-page hex map of the entire Stolen Lands area divided into different zones where some of these larger geographical features are mentioned as they encompass an entire zone but this particular map is too small to include e.g. river and lake names so names like Shrike River, Gudrin River, Lake Silverstep, Candlemere, Hooktongue Slough etc. Some of these places are mentioned in the adventure location texts for different zones but again not all of them are present as actual location entries. Even the Stolen Land maps reproduced at the back of the book (pages 628-631) are blank and thus quite useless without no names (unless you want to write notes on them yourself).

As a GM I found this highly inconvenient as there is no place in the entire book where I could get a quick look at the map and see all the names of the rivers or lakes etc. when describing the locations and directions to the players or indeed trying to get the whole picture of the larger Stolen Lands area myself. My players might not need to know all these place names but as a GM I need and indeed want this information and in a quick and clear format. While the places are often mentioned in the adventure location texts in Chapter 2 and you can deduce their locations from that context, this is not a very convenient or quick way to find these things in a book of this size and thus not very GM friendly.

Was this an oversight or a deliberate decision, since the previous version of the AP had numerous maps with all these names on them. Or was there no room for such a map? The new map folio was kept deliberately "clean" and without place names on the maps, but why are the maps in the AP book itself without them and why there isn't a single map with all the place names on it on this new release?


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Is there are specific reason why the maps in this version of the folio lack all place names for geographical features such as mountain ranges, rivers, lakes etc.? I was just wondering, since the old version of this folio had all the same maps with place names on them. These names, like Gudrin River, Shrike River, Little Sellen River, Tors of Levenies, Dunsward etc., would be extremely handy for both the GM and the players to navigate through the Stolen Lands region without everybody having to remember all these names by heart (or without having to write them on the maps yourself) and without really giving away much about the plot or major adventure sites or encounters.