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Did they get rid of Chris Lambertz??? YAY!!!! Welcome Aboard Bonnie! :-) Your presence is sorely needed.

*Gives Bonnie a warm welcome and a cask of fine Elven wine*

Loth'Xal wrote:

Andius wrote:

Sheer numbers are going to count for far less than you assume they do. TEO is weak. It has weak leadership, weak membership, weak ideals, and a weak spirit. I have no fear of what you sheep have turned TEO into.

Big talk from the guy we just ousted. The Northern Coalition was created because PAX fears the s+&@ out of us, and as well they should.

I would be surprised if you were a member of TEO and not an outsider looking to instigate tensions between TEO and Pax/T7V with your arrogant and rude taunts. If you are someone who is apart of TEO and this is your genuine effort to help TEO in some fashion, I question your judgement and suggest you seek advice from someone you trust via PM's. Cheatle may be a good candidate if the two of you are in fact truly friends.

Alright, thanks. But I know I'm not the only TEO'er who feels like this. Anyways, I'll stop for now. Best of luck NC! :-)

If a mega-guild came into the light, it would be everyone's responsibility, TEO, T7V, PAX, UNC, Ozem's, Magistry, and everyone else, to band together, as one, and destroy them.

I do spend quite a bit of time checking most of the official things that get posted here. As for Pax fearing TEO we really don't have a reason to.

You keep telling yourself that Golgathans. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Alright, I'm checking out of this thread. Take it easy.

Loth'Xal wrote:

Andius wrote:

Sheer numbers are going to count for far less than you assume they do. TEO is weak. It has weak leadership, weak membership, weak ideals, and a weak spirit. I have no fear of what you sheep have turned TEO into.

Big talk from the guy we just ousted. The Northern Coalition was created because PAX fears the s!#& out of us, and as well they should.

While I don't necessary agree with Andius's opinion, "Pax" doesn't fear anyone. Peace through fear, his will be done!

Areks, you wouldn't have created this coalition if you weren't afraid of us. This came as a response to your fear from the Roseblood Accord. What's ironic is that we were stronger before we joined with T7V and they're untrustworthy back-handed politics. So yes, you do fear us.

By the way, that isn't a TEO member, just a Troll, for those of you who didn't know.

Btw, I am a TEO member, just speaking anonymously. I haven't even told anyone in TEO who I am or that I'm doing this. We're friends btw Cheatle, but I wish to continue remaining anonymous. Sorry.

Sheer numbers are going to count for far less than you assume they do. TEO is weak. It has weak leadership, weak membership, weak ideals, and a weak spirit. I have no fear of what you sheep have turned TEO into.

Big talk from the guy we just ousted. The Northern Coalition was created because PAX fears the s+!$ out of us, and as well they should.

While we haven't always agreed on every issue I have always seen Pax as a powerhouse of strength and an force not to be taken lightly.

It will be very interesting fighting alongside Pax and UNC. Woe to those who would oppose us.

TEO will crush you. We don't need T7V to do it. Period.

Also, apple pie is glorious.

You make a very important point here Zael. Apple pie is the bomb.

P.S: I'd like to post this to remind everyone NOT to continue bumping this thread. OK.

I second Proxima's motion!

Thirded. I've said my piece, now let's make peace.

Edit: I still hate T7V though, and can't wait for us (TEO) to leave the Roseblood Accord. OK, I said it. Now I'm done.

Loth'Xal wrote:

Ozem's Vigil is a settlemnt, not a guild, but otherwise, great work. Keep it up.

I took everything from the landrush pages on Friday around 5 EDT, and have changed little but numbers since. Either that's the way it is on GW, or someone else changed it. Anyone is welcome to modify it at any time.

(edit) I did add the (including Fidelis) after Ozem's vigil.

Fair enough.

Ozem's Vigil is a settlemnt, not a guild, but otherwise, great work. Keep it up.

Loth'Xal wrote:

Btw, I think you're twisting Morbis's words, as usual...

Edit: Also, I'm another TEO member who anonymously said "F You" to T7V today.

I warned thee that ye tainted words were not welcome 'round here! Ugly slattern you be, twisted and ugly! You leave Old Buurz no choice!

HELAITUS FINATARA BAGAVERIS!

Just a wee killing curse...

<cackles>
<takes a swig of her mead>

*turns into a frog*

ribbit, ... ribbit

Fult wrote:

Not three of THOSE votes, Nihimon.

I see many people saying this, but it doesn't make sense to me.

It seemed very, very clear to me that Pax Morbis was saying "If we change our policy and abide by Request #3, we will lose a net total of 2 votes". That only makes sense to me, reading the quote, if he's saying "5 people are changing their votes, 3 because we've already decided comply with Request #2, and 2 if we later decide to comply with Request #3".

As I said, I'm very willing to entertain alternate explanations, but they need to make sense to me, and I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I had hoped that Pax Morbis himself would explain precisely what he was trying to say in that quote. I don't really care if he does, though.

I'm as tired of this as everyone else and could care less if no one ever posts on it again.

Btw, I think you're twisting Morbis's words, as usual...

Edit: Also, I'm another TEO member who anonymously said "F You" to T7V today.

What would be the point for TEO and TSV to trade votes. Both won in the initial landrush and therefor have no need to try to win a settlement.

As for TSV reaching the 2nd spot on the Landrush chart. A lot of new people have joined TSV as well as several Charter Companies deciding to call Phaeros home.

Hmm... and I just checked the Leaderboard. Golgotha just reclaimed 2nd spot.

P.S. This is only the 1st week. I suspect things will be going back and forth the entire 10 weeks.

As far as your initial question, I think you answered it yourself. I'm loyal to TEO, ... for now.

Loth'Xal wrote:

EoX Hobs wrote:

This is exactly the kind of baiting and pot stirring we do not need, and I would say that regardless of what guild/group I was in.

T7V and TEO have many good people in their ranks (you just heard from one of their best). Neither of these groups deserve a backhanded compliment, and that done only as a means of insulting a third party. This sort of forum chumming is exactly what we don't need and I hope other community members tell you as much.

You're quick to write this off. It's good to see such trust exists between TEO/T7V, and the Empire of Xellias. I'm sure they won't use such trust to their advantage. They're the good guys, afterall. Just ask Andius...

Please do not include UNC members in your allegations. Andius was not involved in any major way (I don't recall even one post) with the most recent train wreck of a threadnught. He can not speak to what is being alleged via innuendo here now.

Being that your account was created specifically for this thread, your opinions are nothing but background noise.

I ask the all UNC members avoid this thread. There is nothing to be gained by it.

I'm not a member of UNC, or any company affiliated with the newly-formed Northern Coalition. Just someone who holds dear the Truth, and wishes to spread it to my friends here on the forums. :-) Take it as you will.

Alright, they didn't do anything wrong. If you say so.

I guess it's not hard to pull one over on PAX. Fair enough.

I think Pax, TSV, and TEO should take turns taking the OP behind the woodshed.

Dont make this dirty Gayme0n. We're all just talking this out here. No need to make it X-Rated.

We have had enough drama on these forums. If you have concerns then find evidence before you accuse upstanding members of this community.

Lets not start pointing fingers over every g%~ d+~n tiny little issue regardless of the validity or relevance of those, perceived or not.

Yes, of course. I'm sure Nihimon wasn't bitter about losing his "Golgatha War" against Aeternum and Golgatha, and WASN'T looking for a way to slap PAX in the face for it.

Nihimon is nothing if not trustworthy. Am I right?

This was posted by TEO's own Alexander Damocles today:

Nihimon wrote:

Fult wrote:

Not three of THOSE votes, Nihimon.

I see many people saying this, but it doesn't make sense to me.

It seemed very, very clear to me that Pax Morbis was saying "If we change our policy and abide by Request #3, we will lose a net total of 2 votes". That only makes sense to me, reading the quote, if he's saying "5 people are changing their votes, 3 because we've already decided comply with Request #2, and 2 if we later decide to comply with Request #3".

As I said, I'm very willing to entertain alternate explanations, but they need to make sense to me, and I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I had hoped that Pax Morbis himself would explain precisely what he was trying to say in that quote. I don't really care if he does, though.

I'm as tired of this as everyone else and could care less if no one ever posts on it again.

Had they not had their understanding of the request clarified, they would have been up by 2 votes.

At this point, I trust Pax more than I trust you. And that grieves me.

...

This was posted by "He Who Shall Not Be Named" On May 23rd:

I’m troubled by what I am seeing with the Pax Gaming organization. It seems unfair to give them two settlements as they are one “guild.” And what I’m seeing in their public forms, does not give credit to them being separate organizations. What I see is a majority of Golgotha’s applicants come from Aeternum and Fidelus, judging by their own rosters, unless those are not kept up to date.

In Ryan’s statement, The three winners were explicitly asked not to participate in the 2nd land rush. At very least, every new Pax member that plans to live in Aeternum, should only vote for Aeternum. From what I can tell, the other two winners are doing exactly this.

This is from the announcement Ryan Made:

”Ryan Dancey” wrote:
The last question we got involves members of a winning Phase I guild who did not vote in the Phase I poll. Technically, these people are free to participate in the Phase II promotion by affiliating themselves with another guild. The temptation to use this exception as a way to create a shadow guild to snag two (or more) spots in the Land Rush will be high, and we strongly urge you not to do so. If you don't plan to play as a member of another guild, we'd ask that you just not participate in Phase II of the land rush.
This is a quote from Pax’s own public forums, from a Pax staff member:

Quote:
I believe if you have not voted in the first Land Rush for Aeternum, the plan would be to have you vote for Golgotha so as to help that division procure the settlement spot it desires.
This was among other statements instructing members of Pax that did not vote in the first landrush, to apply for Golgotha.

And Lee’s later statement about voting for the guild you want to win, was directed at unaffiliated players. Not a tool for large organizations to influence the competition. Which also goes against what Ryan said in the bolded section above.

Is Pax Golgotha a separate guild and should they get a settlement?

No, Pax is one “guild” for the purpose of this competition. If the organization has a singular leader, they are one guild. If Golgotha and Aeternum had completely separate relationships, and no single entity could dictate change, they would be two separate guilds. Also they all use a “Pax” prefix here, which gives more support to them being one guild.

While what they are doing does not break the “don't switch your vote if you won in Phase 1” rule, it goes against the spirit of the competition. Pax should not be able to take another slot, it is unfair to the guild that comes in 31st place.

While Goblinworks is at fault for not organizing or explaining the first Land Rush well, Golgotha joined Pax and gave them their votes. They decided to join Pax instead of going for their own settlement, I do not see them as being entitled to go for a settlement now. The Second Land Rush should not be treated as a second chance. They made their decision, they should stick with it.

In that same thread, this is what Nihimon (who's a different person entirely) posted:

TEO and T7V are both trying to get friendlies into positions near their settlements by helping them with votes? I could have sworn I hear that somewhere...

Yes, we are! Please see Roseblood Accord.

If you're friendly, and think you can play well with The Empyrean Order, The Seventh Veil, Keepers of the Circle, Dagedai Alliance, and Forgeholm, we encourage you to settle near us in the southeast mountains.

[Edit] We're "helping them with votes" by adding our voices to their recruitment efforts. We're also recruiting new folks to T7V and have made it very clear to each of them that they should not vote for anyone else in the Land Rush. Why can't anyone ever post threads from our forums... *huff*

... We see here that an accusation is denied. The same accusation I'm making here. Can we trust Nihimon's denial? Andius recently said that Nihimon backstabbed him. They were friends for quite some time, no?

Hey PAX: If you feel a warm, yellow stream running down your cheeks, don't look up. You may see Nihimon relieving himself from his newly attained heights.

This is exactly the kind of baiting and pot stirring we do not need, and I would say that regardless of what guild/group I was in.

T7V and TEO have many good people in their ranks (you just heard from one of their best). Neither of these groups deserve a backhanded compliment, and that done only as a means of insulting a third party. This sort of forum chumming is exactly what we don't need and I hope other community members tell you as much.

You're quick to write this off. It's good to see such trust exists between TEO/T7V, and the Empire of Xellias. I'm sure they won't use such trust to their advantage. They're the good guys, afterall. Just ask Andius...

Loth'Xal wrote:

TEO Alexander Damocles wrote:

Dude, what are you talking about? We haven't lost any votes, we've gone up, and gone up consistently.

Of course. ;)

We have traded no votes to TSV. If that can be proven, I'd like to see evidence.

WHOA WHOA! Nobody said you were trading votes... That came out of left-field. No need to go on defense here. I merely wanted to offer Congratulations to T7V, and my condolences to TEO in one thread, that's all. :-) Interesting you would bring up "trading votes". Still, quite a slap in the face to PAX amirite?

Nihimon wrote:

Fult wrote:

Not three of THOSE votes, Nihimon.

I see many people saying this, but it doesn't make sense to me.

It seemed very, very clear to me that Pax Morbis was saying "If we change our policy and abide by Request #3, we will lose a net total of 2 votes". That only makes sense to me, reading the quote, if he's saying "5 people are changing their votes, 3 because we've already decided comply with Request #2, and 2 if we later decide to comply with Request #3".

As I said, I'm very willing to entertain alternate explanations, but they need to make sense to me, and I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I had hoped that Pax Morbis himself would explain precisely what he was trying to say in that quote. I don't really care if he does, though.

I'm as tired of this as everyone else and could care less if no one ever posts on it again.

Had they not had their understanding of the request clarified, they would have been up by 2 votes.

At this point, I trust Pax more than I trust you. And that grieves me.

OH! TEO, says "FU" to T7V, this is turning into an interesting day.

Dude, what are you talking about? We haven't lost any votes, we've gone up, and gone up consistently.

Of course. ;)

First of all, I'd like to give a big, warm congratulations to T7V for shooting up the Guild Landrush Leaderboards today. Well done. You really showed Pax Aeternum & Golgatha that you're not afraid to smack them.

OTOH, I wish to offer my sincere condolences to TEO, who, (while still remaining #1) have lost roughly the same amount of backers. My sincerest regrets.

But again, big congratulations to T7V on your victory over PAX. Way to show them who's in charge. :-)

Know what else we ain't got? Evil mercs. Someone could do very well founding a group dedicated to banditry and assassination. Just sayin'...

Hmm... Evil Mercs you say? That's interesting. >;) Maybe we will see a group of Evil Mercs hit the scene at some point.

Congrats to members of the Northern Coalition! Long may they reign! :-)