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I want to do this so each archetype uses the same arm...I know there is some overlap (losing out on one of the bonus Imp Unarmed Attack feats, etc). Is this legal?


I'm sure this has probably been discussed before, but my SearchFu just isn't up to it!

In PFS, please can anyone confirm this is legal (ignoring fame just at the moment) :

1. Adamantine weapon (dagger, greatsword, prosthetic arm, etc) = 3000gp plus cost of weapon (no masterwork cost, as it has to be anyway and this is figured into the 3000)

2. +1 Adamantine weapon = +2000gp. Total cost = 5000gp + base weapon cost

3. Adding an ability with an additional cost rather than an enhancement value, like Transformative (+10,000gp) = +10,000 + 5000 + base weapon cost. Therefore a +1 Transformative Adamantine Longsword = 15,015gp.

Is this all correct?


Is there anywhere on Golarion that hasn't been visited or covered in PFS?
Or (secondary question) is there somewhere unused that you'd like to play in?


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Firstly, let me express my disappointment at the closing of yet another discussion thread, that people seemed to be having a reasonable, polite discussion about their feelings about not just the playtest, but the direction of travel in general. Before I could join in, it was closed.
The reasons given were:
1. that it had drifted from the OPs point - well yes that sometimes happens, d'uh, but also it hadn't, as the OP had given his POV, indicating he was interested in others', which is what they were giving.
2. that while it was appreciated that people wanted to compare editions, it wasn't helpful to Paizo's playtest process. Surely this is untrue? Do the Paizo staff really not care about the fans of P1e? Are our opinions irrelevant because we do not support the Playtest? Is a General Discussion of the Playtest area of the messageboards exactly where we should be able to have these conversations? Or does Paizo actually want us to just hide in a corner somewhere and shut up?

It is fascinating to me that when one of these threads is closed it usually has some sort of statement about hoping that the OP will come round to liking P2e, or will see that the final game will not be like the playtest. That seems to imply that Paizo thinks that these posters are just not understanding that it is a playtest. That when all the tweaks are sorted, with feedback from people (who already like the general direction of the edition), then everyone will come on board...with the brand new shiny books! Is that it? That sounds a bit arrogant. Or is it that they have already accepted that they are going to lose some of their customers. Which also sounds very confident, thinking that they are going to get more new customers than they are goimg to lose...

I wonder, as the title of the thread wonders, if there was ever a thought in Paizo, to keep supporting P1e? Even Microsoft supported Win98 for 8 years! I wonder if anyone in Paizo questions their decision to do so, when they see posts like this?

BTW, this is the thread I was alluding to...
https://paizo.com/threads/rzs42d3r?I-feel-like-i-am-loosing-my-favorite-gam e


Well, that was fun! I've never started a thread, joked that I was going to close it, but then had it closed for me...

...let me try a different tack.

Let's imagine you are one of the people that probably will not be changing to P2e. Now imagine that you still want to play at PFS tables. If Paizo won't be supporting PFS, perhaps this is an opportunity for changes to be implemented.

Are there any changes you'd like to make, either already part of the wider options (like item progression, automatic bonus progression, or even mythic), or your own ideas you'd like to add to P1e society play?

I'll start: I have really enjoyed using my own version of Swashbuckler hero point cards, where there is a geeky quote and a linked bonus. For example, "I am a leaf on the wind - watch how I soar." This card gives the player the ability to automatically take 20 on one physical skills check.

Each player gets 3 of these cards, each session. They could be played as a free action at any time, or handed in for a re-roll. I have 60 of these, laminated, with the backs decorated, a bit like playing cards. My present ones have parts of pictures from the Emerald Spire book, as that is what I've been running.

What would you add/change?


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So, this whole thing is fascinating! It is very reminiscent of what us happening in Britain at the moment with Brexit. A decision is made seemingly by the will of the people, but then it becomes apparent that not everyone is actually supportive, the decision is unstoppable!

I do, however, find it very disappointing how the dissenting voices are being treated. The number of threads that I am interested in reading that are subsequently locked is shockingly high. Now I know I can be accused of looking at certain threads, but I'm not bothered about little details, I am more concerned with the overarching and system design choices. Decisions about magic, character design, balance, magic item versus ability usage, etc.

Unfortunately, and yet again, we basically have edition wars! What a lot of Pathfinders originally left Wizards to get away from. I remember reading Paizo's explanation why P2 is 'necessary', and was just left feeling a bit empty. They seemed to say, 'hey, 10 years is a long time for an edition of a game', yes it is, and something they should be proud of, in my opinion. 10 years of a system that adapted to different play. Bored with vanilla Pathfinder? Then add a bit of unchained, how about some Occult? Not for you? Try Mythic. Nope, more of an issue with action economy? Try a different one. Main problem that everyone needs a Cloak of Resistance? Try using Automatic Bonus Progression. Too much bloat? Restrict your game to Core.

The 10 years of change and adaptation and options are the two strengths of Pathfinder (no, three strengths), and it is going to take another 10 years for P2 to even come close!

Looking at some of the design decisions, they simply feel like either Unchained Mark II (like 3 actions), or just wantimg to look different to P1 (see resonance).

I understand that Paizo are on an unstoppable rollercoaster, they can hardly say, 'do you know, we made a mistake, let's not bother'. I get that they have profit margins that are now tied into the product being published. I also get that this is a playtest. I just do not understand why Paizo would put all of this out in the community and then have such a strict timeline.

If I was cynical...


I've had an idea for my group to encounter versions of them selves; they are in the middle of a battle with undead versions as we speak!
I'll own up to inspiration from the web comic Goblins...

One of my ideas is to have a group of half green dragons. They managed to avoid a recent battle with a green dragon, and it would be cool that the dragon sets his children onto the party!

The party themselves are 8th level, with their first, recently acquired Mythic level and are v. tough! Elven male Life Oracle, Human male Barbarian, Dwarven female Fighter, Dwarven male Arcanist and Drow male Rogue/Ranger.

So what I could do with is a human, two dwarves (one male, one female), an elf and a drow - apart from the one dwarf, all are male. All to have the half green dragon template, and therefore be each a total of CR 8-10...

...any class is acceptable, any 3pp, as long as it is on the prd/d20pfsrd sites. They only need NPC kit. I've already done a version of the party that takes advantage of teamwork feats (paired opp, outflank, stealth synergy, etc) so you don't have to bother with that...but other group strategies are welcome! Things that might throw my players for a couple of rounds at least...

Gratitude in advance!