Leeroy Jethro Bodine |
Ravingdork wrote:SuperBidi wrote:Unfortunately, it's not the rule, as this sentence says: "For instance, lobbing a fireball into a crowd would be a hostile action, but opening a door and accidentally freeing a horrible monster would not be."
The word accidentally is not accidental. If you open a door and free a horrible monster on purpose it's a hostile action. If you help someone making a hostile action then you are performing a hostile action. You can't Aid on someone's Strike without becoming visible.
That line is so fuzzy, it's not even recognizable as a line. Rulings would be highly inconsistent, at best, and unenforceable at worst.
A rule needs to be clear to be an effective rule. That is not.
In my opinion, the reason why people are annoyed by this rule is that in the past you could use Invisibility during combat and still participate. Hence this discussion: People are searching for what they can do during a combat without taking hostile actions. It's ridiculous. Maybe the whole point of this rule is: You can't stay invisible during a combat if you participate, period. Combats are based on hostility. So all of your combat actions (unless they are aimed at stopping or escaping the fight) will directly or indirectly harm someone.
Easy to apply, and you don't have to wonder if healing the Fighter is an indirect hostile action.
But wouldn't not getting in combat cause harm to indirectly come to someone else since your not an availble target? So by staying invisible someone else got hurt and therefore your (in)actions caused indirect harm.