Thanks, everyone! @Scythia - the NPC is expected to be chased and interrogated. The ring is quite likely to end up in the party's hands. I added the disadvantages to try to mitigate the excessive power of the item - unlike the spell it doesnt actually prevent you fighting while wearing it - just makes the wearer rather stoic and detatched. @Wheldrake - i think its still too powerful as it is - and i'm not sure how much of a reduction in cost the disadvantages might be worth. The trouble with a permanent protection from evil is that it renders the wearer immune to ALL enchantment spells, (there being practically none which do not have either the charm or compulsion descriptor) which is far too good for the mere 4000gp that creating an iitem of it is supposed to cost. Granted 4000gp is about the right cost for a 5th level npcs kit, but its far far too powerful. @Majuba - iirc I calculated the save bonus as +2 to all saves, divided by 3 then muliplied by 1.5 to account for the additional effect - continuous calm emotions (48000gp) Plus +2 will save bonus (2000gp). 300gp x bonus squared per descriptor? Or for the all the descriptors listed? Good catch on the charm thing - I thought that the rings main use of the item in the adventure, is to prevent the party simply charming information straight out of the npc - but it doesnt actually prevent that.
Hi all, I'm trying to update an old Planescape adventure to 3.5/pathfinder. Mostly this just means updating or rewriting NPC stat blocks to the new rules but one NPC - a 5th level fighter - has a ring of clear thought, which so far as I know never made it into 3.5. There is a pathfinder version by Iron Hills games, but its effects don't reflect the AD&D rules. The AD&D version:
Spoiler:
Ring of Clear Thought:
Similar in some ways to a ring of free action, this item diminishes the chance for others to gain mental control over the wearer or to confuse his or her perceptions or thought processes. The wearer becomes immune to confusion, emotion, chaos, feeblemind, and any form of insanity- or rage-producing magical or psionic effect (e.g., scarab of enraging enemies, id insinuation) or magical or psionic powers that internally distort the wearer's perceptions (e.g., psionic invisibility, false sensory input, inflict pain), including any illusions broadcast directly into the wearer's mind, such as blindness or phantasmal killer, though it grants no immunity to external illusions (e.g., phantasmal force, audible glamer, magical invisibility). The wearer gains a +2 bonus to saving throws vs. all other forms of magical or psionic mental attack. Finally, for as long as the ring of clear thought is worn, the wearer gains a +1 bonus to his or her Intelligence score (maximum 18). My Attempt to mimic this produced:
Spoiler:
Ring of Clear Thought:
This ring renders its wearer immune to fear effects and effects that cause the confused condition. However it also denies the wearer any morale bonuses granted by spells such as bless, good hope, and rage, as well as negating a bard’s ability to inspire courage or a barbarian’s ability to rage. In addition the ring grants the wearer a +2 bonus on Will saves. Feint Enchantment; CL 3rd; Forge Ring; Calm emotions; Price: 50,000gp That's still a bit too good for a ring for a 5th level NPC - So Im trying to create a version that's better suited to an NPC of that level. From the adventure context, he needs to be difficult to charm or terrorize into giving information - so I reckoned a bonus on Will saves against fear, confusion and charm and compulsion effects is appropriate, but I'm not sure how to price it - the rules being for blanket resistance bonuses on all saves. SO how do I price a ring that grants say a +5 resistance bonus to Will saves vs fear, charm, compulsion and confusion effects? Thanks!
I had a go at inventing some further magical songs that fit the dark theme - they haven't been playtested: The Bleak Harvest
Danse Macabre
Hi All!
James Jacobs said wrote:
Tyralandi wrote:
Awesome! Thanks! :D
James Jacobs wrote:
Hi James, Did you ever post this? (I'm late to the party I know) I cant find it anywhere on the boards.
@ Thanael - :-) Im running an old paizo 3.5 campaign as written, with a group of 3.5 characters, so no pathfinder stuff for me! (I had been running a PF homebrew campaign but no time to prep atm so we switched to something prewritten that weve planned to do for a while.) @ MrSin - true - I just worry that everything is then Keyed off wisdom.
Got this idea for a beach bum water/wind focused druid who hires himself to merchant ships as a wind-charmer. He doesnt feel turning into an animal fits - plus I think he feels its less paperwork. I know 3.5 wild shape is hideously powerful - In many ways I suppose im glad he doesnt want it! I think I distrust UA because its so open to abuse - early in my DMing career I was face by a player who would switch an ability for an alternate, then switch part of the alternate for another etc etc - so im instantly wary of it now. Ive had far more experience as a DM, but the easiest solution is simply to say No to UA.
Hi!
1. The amount of combat is really down to your GM - some run combat heavy other not so much - in my campaigns (and I think most) some sessions have lots and some have none at all, depending on whats going on in the story etc. 2. The system is pretty rich - characters can be pretty wildly varied depending on how they are built. 3. There are plenty of supplemental books that increase the variety in creating a character, including races and classes, but again its down to your GM as to which you can use. Hints and tips is harder, have you any idea what kind of character you might want to play?
Edit: gah! Sic beat me to the punch!
Hi all!
UA wrote:
I'm always suspicious of unearthed arcana, and Im not worried about saying no, but I dont want to just dismiss it out of hand. So I'm asking - how balanced/broken is this as an alt class feature?
Id go for Half brass dragon kobold barbarian (savage barbarian)
Savage barabian gives you more natural armour, small size also has the AC bonus, the str and con bonuses make for lots of rage and serious damage. Especially as a half dragons bite does 1d4 +1.5x str mod damage.
If you are building a level 1 char, you're probably better off thinking in terms of feat trees when choosing your feats. ranged build
I don't play PFS but I very much doubt there'll be many situations in which you are going to want to make a shot over more than 100ft - your longbow has you covered. Also anything that increases your initiative is good, especially for a ranged character - you want as many turns of shooting before they get to you as possible. I'd take reactionary, and strongly consider taking improved initiative later on as well - you really really want to get the drop on anyone you fight. If you want trapfinding your better off taking a level of rogue when you can, you'll get more from it, and even a little sneak attack is good for an archer - you may only get one round of shooting, make it hurt! Melee build
Alternately you might consider bumping your intellegence and going for combat expertise - in combat inquisitors are all about battlefield control, and feats like improved trip work well with that. As you are the Face you could aim to use improved feint to take advantage of your bluff skill. first level feat
Id keep the monster lore, and ditch the medium armour - I prefer the mobility.
Unless I'm missing something, my immediate choice would be the best belt of incredible dexterity I could afford - improves AC and shooting. Beyond that rings of protection, amulets of natural armour etc. At 12th level though you might be better off looking for items that give you a miss chance - avoid blinking because it'll mess up your shooting, but a cloak of displacement or similar might be worth looking into.
Hi all! I'm looking for advice on building dungeon encounters for a deceptive/diplomatic character. I'm DMing a 3.5 Eberron campaign. The party are 10th level and have just reached the giant and undead infested ruins theyve been working their way towards since 6th level. The party rogue is a Changeling Rogue/Spymaster who specialises in Bluff, Disguise and Diplomacy and is not much of a combatant.
The other party members are an Elf Ranger 10, Halfling Artificer 8/rogue 2 and a Human Sorcerer 10. I have an idea for an encounter where the party must, through deception or diplomacy, organise a meeting between a Ghostly dragon and a powerful Allip (the former was killed by the latter) in order to secure the dragon's aid. But I'd like a few more ideas. Any Suggestions?
Hi all, Title says nearly all of it to be honest - im currently running an adventure for my group where the villain is a human rogue (charlatan) - he specialises in decieving innocent third parties into doing his dirty work for him.
By means of the grand hoax ability and his gang of conartists he has a fair deal of influence in the city where the adventure takes place. Ive been toying with the idea that i should make him an easy fight, at odds with his serious influence, but part of me feels thats too much of an anticlimax. Has anybody a view on this?
@ Lincoln Hills - I hadnt considered Mobs, thanks! Re thermopylae, Herodotus' account is better than both :) @ Serisan - i'm not gming for PFS but i think its a mechanic worth looking into - its rather a fantasy/horror staple after all. Thankfull the fact that the horde'll be chasing them the way they want to go and the fact that my group are both used to the idea of running away and all pretty attached to their PCs will help. Besides opening the door is just my example as its what i intend to do specifically but what im hoping is to produce some quick and dirty rules that could work for "survive till dawn against the undead horde style encounters" - no escape just wait for the sun to rise and incinerate the horde of vampire spawn/ wights whatever...
Vuvu wrote:
Haven't tested it (i may be in the wrong part of the boards :-s) but i was planning d6 monsters appear per round. If i assume that thats 3.5 monsters per round and it will take N rounds for rogue to get the door open then that leads to:xp total = 3.5xXPxN But i wondered if anyone had come up with a better, probably more balanced, method.
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone had come up with rules for dealing with endless hordes in pathfinder or 3.5
Basically i'm trying to establish a set XP for an encounter with an unspecified number of monsters. All help welcome!
sieylianna wrote: I wouldn't get too hung up on trying to make the PF numbers match the 2nd edition/3.5 numbers. A lot of things have changed since then. Using dragonide as a guideline is a good approach. Thought id compare with mithral - that Allowed me to make an armour that took half plate and took it steps towards hide armour while retaining the Ac bonus. Mithral halfplate +8 ac, max dex +2, check penalty -4, asf 30%, spd 20, 25lbs, 9600gp
+8ac, max dex +3, check penalty -4, asf 20%, spd 20, 50lbs, special: fire resistance +2,
nightflier wrote: You should make it a goal of a quest - not something that can be bought. Not really Intending to make it easily purchasable - i always feel that dragonhide armour is something you should have to kill a dragon for, otherwise you should pay over the odds for it because dragon leather is not even close to equivalent to your average pigskin. The NPC who inspired all this will have bought it - or rather commissioned it - he's wealthy enough to pay serious people to hunt Aurumvorax and to have the armour made, but its not going to be available on the highstreet! Still i want to set a price so i know how much the treasure is worth. :-s
Nimon wrote: I would compare this to dragon hide for the price. Well a standard Aurumvorax is small, so presumably you need 4 to make a medium suit of armour? In 2nd ed and 3.5 a single aurumvorax pelt was worth 3000gp but harvesting it requires a DC30 survival check. Aurumvorax hide : Armorsmiths can work with the hides of aurumvoraxes to produce armor of masterwork quality. Four aurumvoraxes provide enough hide for a single suit of masterwork hide armor for a medium sized creature. Aurumvorax Hide 15000 gp
Because aurumvorax hide armor isn't made of metal, druids can wear it without penalty. Aurumvorax hide has 8 hit points per inch of thickness and hardness 5. The hide of a aurumvorax is typically 1/2 inch thick. The price reflects the value of the pelts with a small mark up to allow profit. Given that dragonhide half plate would be 1500gp i think ive run into the 1 ladder = 2 poles at 1/2 the price problem - though i note theyve fixed that particular one for pathfinder... :)
sieylianna wrote: I think you're going to see just about everyone wearing it. It would be cheap at 10,000 gold. All of that is true. And also my problem. The weight and the AC bonus are things i want to keep, as is the token fire resistance - they all hark back to the original 2nd ed concept. In this instance i'm trying to make what is essentially a robe.
I'm happy enough to play with the max dex and Skill penalty - but i want it to be max ASF 10%
sieylianna wrote: Anything that weighs 50 pounds is going to have ASF since it will make it more difficult to make gestures. I also think max dex should be lower. Another factor is armor proficiency. - is this light armor? I always figured that ASF was due to the restrictive unflexible nature of the armour - this stuffs flexible, its just supposed to be very heavy. It was supposed to be more on the order of a robe than actual armour.
UltimaGabe wrote:
Ive had some success at this by making the bad guy sunder all their weapons and KO the wizard. Without their shiny weapons PCs tend to get a lot less confident. The villain then just laughed at them and told them they werent worth killing. Makes the players really HATE the villain, but you cant use it too often or they'll really hate you too!
Hi all! This idea started out as a desire to give a wealthy spellcasting villain a distinctive look.
Anyway on the strength of this i came up with this: Aurumvorax Fur Coat This heavy coat of golden fur is extremely effective as a substitute for armour and highly prized by those spellcasters rich enough and strong enough to wear it. The coat provides a
Price 6000gp Do people feel its under/ overpowered for the price? Its non-magical. But the creature is rare and hard to process. Should it cost more? Or less? Or have i, just this once, hit the nail on the head?
I'd happily limit the effect to say 1dx rounds. Although how long x should be im not sure. the damage and DC derive from the belker bound to the weapon - essentially I used the burning weapon enchantment from the Eberron Campaign Setting as a template.
my only concern is that the DC strikes me as kinda low for a +3 weapon and I dont really wanna increase it from that of the belker. would the extra damage work better if it applied only on a critical hit? the weapon otherwise just renders a creature it wounds sickened on a failed DC14 fort save from smoke? or am i getting too complicated?
Hi All! I have a new weapon enchantment that i'd like to put before the other DMs that lurk on these boards before I loose it upon my party in a forthcoming adventure in my eberron campaign. Let me know what you think! Smokebound
Jeremy Toles wrote: The zombie should have lost it's poison bite... Granted it was a rather liberal interpretation of the template. PC Name: Roger (Human fighter/cleric/wormhunter)
confronted with a large black tentacular tree which has just consumed the equally foolhardy but higher AC Rogue/monk of the party, Roger charges into single combat with the monstrosity and fails to penetrate its natural armour. tree strikes back: 6 out of 8 attacks connect dealing nearly 200 points of damage, noble (demented) Roger is torn limb from limb and swallowed peicemeal at -23hp.
Another New Vestige This vestige is all that remains of an elven hero disintegrated by a giant's spell during the slave rebellion at the end of the age of giants. The pile of dust poured onto the summoning symbol fountains up to form the figure of an elven warrior. Movie plot spoiler:
Valaen, The Wildrider - 1st level vestige Binding DC: 17 Blades of the Vales Tairn: while bound to Valaen, you gain proficiency with the scimitar and Valenar double scimitar. Ride by Attack: while bound to Valaen, you gain the benefits of the Ride by Attack feat. Saddle Born: while bound to Valaen, you gain a +4 insight bonus on ride checks Cavalry Skirmisher: while bound to Valaen, you may use the extra mobility granted by your mount to deal extra damage and improve your defensive capabilities. The binder deals an extra 1d6 points of damage on all mounted melee attacks she makes during any round in which she moves at least 40 feet. The extra damage applies only to attacks taken during the binder’s turn. This extra damage increases by 1d6 for every four effective binder levels beyond 1st (2d6 at 5th, 3d6 at 9th, 4d6 at 13th, and 5d6 at 17th level).
At 3rd level, you gain a +1 competence bonus to Armor Class during any round in which you ride at least 40 feet. The bonus applies as soon as the binder has ridden 40 feet, and lasts until the start of your next turn.
Swift Stallion: Upon binding with Valaen, a binder gains the service of an unusually swift, strong, and loyal steed.
As a full-round action, the binder may magically call her stallion from the nether realms in which it resides. This ability is the equivalent of a spell of a level equal to one-third the binder’s level. The mount immediately appears adjacent to the binder and remains for 2 hours per effective binder level; it may be
Each time the stallion is called, it appears in full health, regardless of any damage it may have taken previously. The mount also appears wearing or carrying any gear it had when it was last dismissed. Calling a stallion is a conjuration (calling) effect. Should the swift stallion die, it immediately disappears, leaving behind any equipment it was carrying. The binder may not summon another stallion for 1 hour or until she binds Valaen anew, whichever comes first, even if the mount is somehow returned from the dead. During this hour, the binder takes a -1 penalty on attack and weapon damage rolls. Effective______Bonus___Nat___Str/Dex
Bonus HD:- Extra eight-sided (d8) Hit Dice, each of which gains a Constitution modifier, as normal. Extra Hit Dice improve the spirit stallion’s base attack and base save bonuses. A swift stallion’s base attack bonus is equal to that of a cleric of a level equal to the spirit stallion’s HD. A swift stallion has good Fortitude and Reflex saves (treat it as a character whose level equals the animal’s HD). The swift stallion gains additional skill points or feats for bonus HD as normal for advancing a monster’s Hit Dice.
what do you think?
I haven't read the Midnight setting, but I don't think you need worry about it being too cliche - you say 1 player is experienced so very few campaigns are going to be entirely original in his eyes, and the other is quite inexperienced and most likely won't mind or notice. The plot line you've laid down here seems pretty strong to me, and the introductory scene is a more interesting way of bringing the group together than meeting in the pub or being called together by a patron. having the Party begin as slaves will present you with one problem though: In your first fight - the ambush of the slave cart - they have no particular reason to stick around - they wont have any armour, weapons or gear so getting stuck into the fighting with armed soldiery is not going to seem a great idea. There is the risk that they will simply flee from the encounter, not very heroic but in the circumstances quite sensible. I don't think you need worry about it being too railroady either: you are not forcing your players to fight with the resistance. There are a number of points at which the campaign can change course: They may flee or refuse the rebel leader at the beginning (which hopefully wont happen but its a risk), they may decide not to rescue the noble's wife (which should have long term consequences for the party beyond her just being dead), and finally they may decide to work with the agents of the shadow (which given that its underhanded and unheroic should probably result in them being betrayed so that they can seek redemption) you've laid the foundations for some good characterisation, so I think roleplaying opportunities will develop on their own.
I'm having a go at designing some new feats for an Eberron game I'm intending to run. I thought I'd share them on here to get some feedback and also invite anyone who wanted to to share any Eberron specific feats, spells, class features etc that they've invented. Anyway, here we go: Child of Winter Feat: PLAGUEBRINGER [GENERAL]
1. Breath of the Jungle: Fog makes poison and diseases harder to resist.
The spells all come from the spell compendium, book of vile darkness or Lords of Madness. It is inspired by the Spontaneous affliction alternate class feature in Exemplars of Evil and the Spontaneous Healer/Summoner/Wounder feats in Complete Divine.
heres my full 10 level version of the PrC, it utilizes some ideas from LemonNlimE's but it's has it's differences... Movie plot spoiler:
The Yannatarah The Yannatarah (which in Quor roughly translates as Light of Taratai), are errant champions of the Path of Light , psionic holy warriors who seek out darkness wherever it hides and eradicate it with power of their minds and the edge of their blades. Entry Requirements: To qualify to become a Yannatarah, a character must fulfil all the following criteria.
Hit Die D10 10 levels
Skills (2+int modifier): autohypnosis, bluff, concentration, craft, decipher script, diplomacy, gather information, handle animal, heal, knowledge (planes), knowledge (psionics), knowledge (religion), profession, psicraft, ride and sense motive. Class Features: The following are class features of the Yannatarah prestige class. Powers Known: At every level indicated on the table, the character gains additional power points per day and access to new powers as if she had also gained a level in whatever manifesting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained (bonus feats, metapsionic or item creation feats, psicrystal special abilities, and so on). This essentially means that she adds the level of Yannatarah to the level of whatever manifesting class the character has, then determines power points per day, powers known, and manifester level accordingly. If a character had more than one manifesting class before she became an Yannatarah, she must decide to which class she adds the new level of Yannatarah for the purpose of determining power points per day, powers known, and manifester level. Tribond Spirit (Ex): You no longer need to summon Taratai every day; you are bound to her constantly. You cannot choose a different vestige in her place. You can still attempt a binding check each day to negate her influence.
Paladin Conversion: Permanently bonding with a third spirit is a traumatic experience and Kalashtar who do so tend to become somewhat eccentric.
Code of Conduct: A Yannatarah must be of good alignment and loses all prestige class abilities if he ever willingly commits an act of evil. This includes all binding benefits, manifester levels, and special abilities granted by the Yannatarah class.
Smite Evil (Su): Once per day, a Yannatarah may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack. He adds his Charisma modifier (if positive) to his attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per class level. For example, a 9th-level Yannatarah armed with a longsword would deal 1d8+9 points of damage, plus any additional bonuses for high Strength or magical effects that normally apply. If the Yannatarah accidentally smites a creature that is not evil, the smite has no effect but it is still used up for that day.
Insuperable Mind (Ex): A Yannatarah of 2nd level or higher is immune to magical sleep effects, charms and fear effects.
Mettle (Ex): A Yannatarah of 3rd level or higher, can resist magical and unusual attacks with great will power or fortitude. If he makes a successful Will or Fortitude save against an attack that normally would have a lesser effect on a successful save (such as any spell with a saving throw entry of Will half or Fortitude partial), he instead completely negates the effect. An unconscious or sleeping Yannatarah does not gain the benefit of mettle. Psionic Banishment: A Yannatarah of 6th level or higher adds psionic banishment to his list of powers known as a 6th level power. You must know at least one other power of the same level to use this power. If you already know psionic banishment, you can choose another power of the same level that is on your class power list. One with the Light: A Yannatarah of 10th level becomes a magical creature. He is forevermore treated as an outsider (native, psionic) rather than a humanoid for the purposes of spells and magical effects. Additionally, the Yannatarah gains damage reduction 10/evil and resistance to acid 5, cold 5, and fire 5
as ever comments welcomed.
Ok, with the rebuilt vestige comes a new PrC, its obviously a work in progress, so suggestions will be gratefully recieved! I am aware that the current name is a bit of a mouthful but i'm trying to combine the idea of remembering with psionics. The Idea is these guys are the holy warriors of the Path of Light and they remember Taratai by binding her. Movie plot spoiler:
The Reminisentient of Taratai Entry Requirements: To qualify to become a Reminisentient of Taratai, a character must fulfil all the following criteria.
Hit Die D8 10 levels
Skills (2+int modifier) bluff, concentration, craft, decipher script, diplomacy, gather information, handle animal, heal, knowledge (planes), knowledge (psionics), knowledge (religion), profession, psicraft, ride and sense motive. Class Features: The following are class features of the Reminisentient of Taratai prestige class. 1st level:
Tribond Spirit (Ex): You no longer need to summon Taratai every day; you are bound to her constantly. You cannot choose a different vestige in her place. You can still attempt a binding check each day to negate her influence.
Paladin Conversion: Permanently bonding with a third spirit is a traumatic experience and Kalashtar who do so tend to become somewhat eccentric.
Code of Conduct: A Reminisentient of Taratai must be of good alignment and loses all prestige class abilities if he ever willingly commits an act of evil. This includes all binding benefits, manifester levels, and special abilities granted by the Reminisentient class.
Smite Evil (Su): Once per day, a Reminisentient of Taratai may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack. He adds his Charisma modifier (if positive) to his attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per class level. For example, a 9th-level Reminisentient of Taratai armed with a longsword would deal 1d8+9 points of damage, plus any additional bonuses for high Strength or magical effects that normally apply. If the Reminisentient of Taratai accidentally smites a creature that is not evil, the smite has no effect but it is still used up for that day.
2nd level:
obviously I'd like to add some more class abilities but I don't want to overpower the class. Its requirement for 3 classes means it can be quite powerful though...
Ok, thanks for the input everyone! This is what I think the final granted abilities should be, unless anyone can spot any flaws? Taratai's Granted Abilities: Vision of the Quori: While you are bound to Taratai, you see normally in darkness and magical darkness out to 30ft. Taratai's Boon: While you are bound to Taratai you may expend your psionic focus to grant allies within 15' a move action and a +2 sacred bonus on their next attack roll if the binder is good or neutral, or a +2 profane bonus on their next attack roll if the binder is evil.
Mindtouched: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain 7 power points. You gain an additional 1 power point for each effective binder level beyond 6th These are added to your pool of power if you already possess psionic power, or they create a pool and you become a psionic creature for the duration of this binding.
Narrow mind: You gain the benefits of the Narrow Mind Psionic feat. Strengthen mind: While you are bound to Taratai party members within 30' gain a +4 sacred bonus on saves vs Fear, Sleep and Mind Affecting effects if the binder is good or neutral, or a +4 profane bonus on saves vs Fear, Sleep and Mind Affecting effects if the binder is evil. The bonus increases by +1 per 3 levels beyond 3rd. Vestige Level: 2 Binding DC: 18 Special Requirement: Yes
Updated, more focused version of the granted abilities: Movie plot spoiler:
Vision of the Quori: While you are bound to Taratai, you see normally in darkness and magical darkness out to 30ft. Taratai's Boon: While you are bound to Taratai you may expend your psionic focus to grant allies within 10' a move action.
Mindtouched: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain 7 power points. you gain an additional 1 power point for each effective binder level beyond 6th These are added to your pool of power if you already possess psionic power, or they create a pool and you become a psionic creature for the duration of this binding.
Narrow mind: You gain the benefits of the Narrow Mind Psionic feat. Strengthen mind: While you are bound to Taratai party members within 30' gain +4 morale bonus on saves vs Fear, Sleep and Mind Affecting effects. The bonus increases by +1 per 3 levels beyond 3rd. additionally those party members gain Protection from evil if the binder is good or protection from good if the binder is evil. iI the binder is neutral he chooses which benefit to grant at the time of binding. He may not change this affect until he binds Taratai anew. Vestige Level: 2 Binding DC: 18 Special Requirement: Yes
what do you think?
I showed the vestige to the player who will be running the character for whom I'm developing this stuff.
Movie plot spoiler:
Granted Abilities: Taratai was the most powerful of the spirits that fled from Dal Quor, as a vestige she grants you a portion of that power. She also grants you her silver tongue and the power to fight and flee from your enemies just as she did so long ago. Vision of the Quori: While you are bound to Taratai, you see normally in darkness and magical darkness out to 30ft. GOOD INTRODUCTORY ABILITY - ADDS FLAVOUR. LINKS THEMATICALLY WITH THE SIGN. Taratai’s Appeal: While bound to Taratai you gain +2 bonus to Diplomacy checks. This bonus increases by +1 for every 3 equivalent binder levels you possess beyond 3rd level. WEAK - WHAT IF YOUR CLASS COMBINATION DOESN'T ALLOW GOOD DIPLOMACY? IN ORDER TO BENEFIT IT REQUIRES A LOT OF FOCUS ON DIP AND CHA, PLUS AT THE POINT YOU INVEST THAT IT WILL BEAT SOME ENCOUNTERS IN A SINGLE DIE ROLL WHILE BEING USELESS IN OTHERS. Psionic Smite: While you are bound to Taratai, you can attempt to smite a creature with a single melee attack. You must expend your psionic focus to use this ability. You add your Charisma bonus (if any) to the attack roll and deal 1 extra point of damage per 2 effective binder levels. You must decide whether or not to use this ability prior to making an attack. If your attack misses, you still expend your psionic focus. Once you have used this ability, you cannot do so again for 5 rounds. HAS THE SAME ISSUES AS ABOVE BUT REPLACING CHA DIP WITH BAB STR. ITS EQUIVALENT TO AROUND A 4th LEVEL MARTIAL MANOUVER FROM BOOK OF THE 9 SWORDS... Psionic Boon: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain 7 power points when you bind Taratai. These are added to your pool of power if you already possess psionic power, or they create a pool and you become a psionic creature for the duration of this binding. INSANE. THIS MORNING I SPENT TWO HOURS LOOKING AT THIS ABILITY. ITS WORTH A WHOLE LEVEL EASILY, TWO POSSIBLY. THINK ABOUT THIS AS GIVING THE PLAYER 3rd LEVEL ARCANE CASTING FOR FREE WITH NO DRAW BACKS OTHER THAN HAVING TO SPEND A FEAT PER SPELL PAST THE SECOND. IF YOU HAVE PSI ALREADY ITS VERY GOOD BUT NOT BROKEN. Power Of Taratai: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain access to the psionic powers Dimension HopCP, and Telempathic Projection for the duration of the binding. You may manifest each power as a psion would and as if it is a power known by you. You may augment each power as a psion normally could, substituting your effective binder level in place of manifester level. If you have the ability to manifest powers from another class your manifester level and binder levels stack for the purposes of using these powers. INCLUDED ABOVE. Vestige level: 2 Binding DC: 16 Special Requirement: Yes comments?
Glad you like it :-) If i scaled the power points i'd probably set it at 3 points per binder level. Therefore when the binder can first bind Taratai at 3rd level he gets 9 power points, then at 4th he gets 12, at 5th 15, etc. you are right though that, while the addtition of 7 power points if the character is a multiclassed binder/psion is not too game breaking, scaling points will mean that they rapidly end up with ridiculous numbers of power points.
I agree that the influence needs clarification.
The problem with trying to clarify the spiritual protection is that it does depend rather on the religion of the binder. A binder who worshipped pelor would have a very different idea of spiritual corruption to one that followed erythnul or hextor.
Here's the provisionally complete Vestige for Taratai.
Movie plot spoiler:
Taratai, The Remembered Dream Vestige level: 2 Binding DC: 16 Special Requirement: Yes Legend: the legend is based upon the information provided about Taratai and her flight from and eventual destruction by the dreaming dark as described in the Kalashtar section of Races of Eberron. Special Requirement: the Taratai’s symbol must be scribed in area of bright illumination. Taratai will not appear to a binder within sight of any symbol of the path of inspiration including Riedran Monoliths
I've also started working on a prestige class connected to this vestige which combines binder levels and a psionic class. It's race specific, but thats partially due to the nature of psionics in my campaign. The class is based on the Tenebrous Apostate. Movie plot spoiler:
Reminisentient of Taratai Hit Die D8 BAB middle attack progression Saves good will save I plan it to be a 5 level class. Skills (2+int modifier) bluff, concentration, craft, decipher script, diplomacy, gather information, knowledge (planes), knowledge (psionics), knowledge (religion), profession, psicraft and sense motive Entry Requirements To qualify to become a Reminisentient of Taratai, a character must fulfil all the following criteria.
Tribond Spirit: You no longer need to summon Taratai every day; you are bound to her constantly. You cannot choose a different vestige in her place. You can still attempt a binding check each day to negate her influence.
Powers Known: At every level the character gains additional power points per day and access to new powers as if she had also gained a level in whatever manifesting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained (bonus feats, metapsionic or item creation feats, psicrystal special abilities, and so on). This essentially means that she adds the level of Reminisentient to the level of whatever manifesting class the character has, then determines power points per day, powers known, and manifester level accordingly. If a character had more than one manifesting class before she became an Reminisentient, she must decide to which class she adds the new level of Reminisentient for the purpose of determining power points per day, powers known, and manifester level. Smite the Darkness (Su): when you use the psionic smite ability granted by your bond with Taratai against an evil opponent you deal 1 point of damage per equivalent binder level. Soul Binding: At each Reminisentient level beyond 1st, your soul binding ability improves as if you had also gained a level in the binder class. Your Reminisentient levels and binder levels stack for the purpose of determining your bonus on binding checks, the effectiveness of your vestige-granted abilities, your ability to bind higher-level vestiges, and the number of vestiges you can bind. You do not,however, gain any other benefit a binder would have gained. Insuperable Mind (Su): at 2nd level you gain immunity to sleep, charm and fear effects. im working on developing some additional abilites for the PrC, i'm worried the immunities it grants may be overpowered. suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback, In response to your suggestions I just thought i'd show my logic for the way i set out those powers. Bill Lumberg wrote: First, make the extra damage from psionic smite equal to one point per binder level. Given that the choice of victim with Psionic Smite is not restricted like the paladin's smite evil ability and it can be used in every encounter, I was a bit hesitant to make the psionic smite ability more powerful. I feared a binder would massively outshine a paladin of the same level. Bill Lumberg wrote: Second, make dimension hop usable once every five rounds. the uses of dimension hop are limited by the power points the binder has available, so limiting the frequency of use further seems a bit harsh. The thought was that the less inspiring psionic smite ability would balance the greater versatility of the psionic powers. My other worry was whether the number of power points granted by psionic boon should scale with level: should the vestige grant a number of power points per binder level?
Thanks for the links, i did find the one about designing your own vestiges a while after i last post. I hadn't found the other one though so I shall certainly be looking through that! :-) Ive followed your advice about making the bonus to diplomacy rather than to Cha and swapped the dimension door for the 1st level dimension hop power from complete psionic.
the granted abilities now look like this:
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Granted Abilities:
Vision of the Quori: While you are bound to Taratai, you can see normally in darkness and magical darkness out to 30 feet. Taratai’s Appeal: While bound to Taratai you gain +2 bonus to Diplomacy checks. This bonus increases by +1 for every 3 equivalent binder levels you possess beyond 3rd level. Psionic Smite: While you are bound to Taratai, you can attempt to smite a creature with a single melee attack. You must expend your psionic focus to use this ability. You add your Charisma bonus (if any) to the attack roll and deal 1 extra point of damage per 2 effective binder levels. You must decide whether or not to use this ability prior to making an attack. If your attack misses, you still expend your psionic focus. Once you have used this ability, you cannot do so again for 5 rounds Psionic Boon: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain 7 power points when you bind Taratai. These are added to your pool of power if you already possess psionic power, or they create a pool and you become a psionic creature for the duration of this binding. Power Of Taratai: While you are bound to Taratai, you gain access to the psionic powers Dimension Hop, and Telempathic Projection for the duration of the binding. You may manifest each power as a psion would and as if it is a power known by you. You may augment each power as a psion normally could, substituting your effective binder level in place of manifester level. If you have the ability to manifest powers from another class your manifester level and binder levels stack for the purposes of using these powers. do you think this is balanced for a 2nd level vestige? or still too powerful?
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