Cayden Cailean

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That is the assumption that you HAVE to flurry and you don't nor does it make you hit much better really. A Kasatha can hit with four blows without flurry and yes would be a fool to use Flurry when he could deal more damage. With an Agile AMOF.

You only have a -2 to each attack roll which does suck but with a focus on Dex and Wis you can easily overcome that weakness.

There is such a thing as a flurry of misses, so this belief that monk increase hit chance is small.


Well I did say I had Flaws to use, so I could take both of those in the 1rst level.


Archaeik wrote:

RAW, FoB is what it is, no more, no less. You won't get the additional 2 offhand attacks for being Kasatha.

RAI, you might get the 2 extra attacks, since you could normally get them during a full attack.

I agree with James that MWF should also replace TWF as a prerequisite, but keep in mind that ITWF only grants one additional offhand attack, not one for each offhand. IMWF/GMWF were cut from PFRPG.

You cannot stack TWF and FoB in the same full attack action it is 'either or'.

Well I never believed the Flurry and TWF Stacked.


Melkiador wrote:
It sounds like you may be better off using a non-flurry build and just focus on using multi-weapon fighting with unarmed strike. The base warpriest should actually be good for this. Pick a deity with unarmed strike as favored and you get both improved unarmed and weapon focus on it for free. But this build would want to be dex based as two weapon fighting has some hefty requirements. Otherwise, consider a ranger. You may be able to convince your DM to let you pick up multi-weapon with the ranger's two-weapon style.

Special: This feat replaces the Two-Weapon Fighting feat for creatures with more than two arms.

^ Technically Kasatha should be able to with a Ranger feat anyway.

Yeah going Non-flurry is what the idea will be. And Kasatha get a bonus to Dex and Wis, so at 18 base for the two I will begin with a 20 in dex and 20 in Wis.

AC with Wis to AC is 22 at level 1 10+5+5+2 With Dex and Wis being the five and the Dodge bonus being 2. At level 1 to have a 22 AC makes you dang near untouchable.

Kasatha's racial trait that gives the +2 Dodge bonus is nice, and its ability scores are suited for Monk or Dex/Wis based builds

And that is not even including the Archetype that would allow me light armor and Wis to AC because then the Kasatha is virtually untouchable as its Touch AC is high as heck and its full AC is even higher.

What worries me is the To Hit.


The developer ruled that any Kasatha gets 4 attacks. So a Kasatha Fighter with four daggers gets four attacks at level 1 using normal twf penalties so with MWF it would be at -2/-2/-2/-2 for the fighter using daggers. Because all are light weapons. A Kasatha Monk can trade away Flurry of Blows and deal 4 attacks at level 1.


Claxon wrote:

Yeah, that line is actually only about your damage not being reduced to half strength. That is to say all your unarmed attacks deal full strength damage. It does nothing for your attack bonus.

What worse, flurry sets your attack bonus with each attack, and you don't get additional attacks for TWF, ITWF, GTWF, or multiattack because they are mutually incompatible.

While a Kastaha monk seems like a cool idea, it actually works pretty poorly because you can't make additional attacks beyond what Flurry of Blows allows.

A Kasatha who is full attacking, not FOB, deals 4 attacks at level 1. With Multiweapon Fighting this is at the same penalty as FoB but you get 2 additional attacks. You add an additional attack at level 8 for 5 attacks a round and according to James Jacob you can use ITWF to stack onto Multiweapon Fighting.


Unarmed Strike
At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may make unarmed strikes with his hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply his full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all his unarmed strikes.
Emphasis mine. This is not declared as only for the flurry.

Well I mean if you made attacks without Flurry, and that is why I was asking. Multiweapon Fighting reduces penalty for Off-hand attacks. If there is no off-hand attacks...what does it reduce?


I do have a Rules Question as well. If a Monk has no offhands when using a unarmed strike then should my Kasatha be throwing out his attacks at a penalty at all? I mean when fighting unarmed all of his unarmed strikes are considered primary handed attacks according to that ruling.


Hello,

I am playing a Kasatha in my upcoming game and I wanted to play an unarmed character because really unarmed is the only way to play a Kasatha because four weapons is expensive.

Now before we get to far yes James Jacob has said a Kasatha gets 4 attacks due to its 4 arms. As he is a lead designer I am going to go out and trust him on this so we can get that out of the way.

Now I am in a dead tie between the three Monks
CRB Monk
Sacred Fist Warpriest
Unchained Monk

Now I know that SF and UM are outright better then the CRB Monk I do like the archetypes available to the CRB Monk.

I also have access to at least 1 3pp Archetype that would allow me to trade out Flurry and gain the ability to wear light armor and keep my AC bonus. Add Wis to my damage for a few rounds, etc. Its called the War Scholar I saw it in another thread and it looks powerful.

So my stats were rolled but they add up to something like 64 point buy (18,18,16,16,14,14)

I am starting at level 1 if this helps and I have access to two traits, and I can take flaws to offset my character and allow some additional feats (Since my first level feat should be Multiweapon Fighting)

I do have a Rules Question as well. If a Monk has no offhands when using a unarmed strike then should my Kasatha be throwing out his attacks at a penalty at all? I mean when fighting unarmed all of his unarmed strikes are considered primary handed attacks according to that ruling. (I will post this in the rules section too)