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GM here. I'm customizing some of the treasure in this adventure path, to better reflect the particulars of my players' characters. For instance:

The Thrushmoor Terror:
The reward for Event 6: A Request for Aid is listed as a mithral heavy shield. None of my PCs use shields, and are unlikely to (there's a monk, a rogue, a psychic, and an occultist) simply because it's really nice.

I'd like to substitute a +1 something bane temple sword (the rogue and occultist already have nice magic weapons). For GM who have run this, what do you think the most useful bane target would be?

Also, are there other magic items that you might recommend substituting for treasure at various points?

(I'm dissuading the PCs from doing a lot of shopping or crafting, especially in the first two books. I find it kind of diffuses the atmosphere of horror. "Oh no! Shoggoths everywhere!" "Well, we killed them, at great cost to our sanity. Now let's go buy some rings of protection, potions of cure, and cloaks of resistance down at the local WalMage.")

I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but my search fu is failing.

SITUATION: My character has two "thrown" (descriptor) weapons out (say, two daggers). They throw one of them as a ranged attack. They keep the other one in hand and do not use it. Later that same round, an opponent provokes an AoO.

Can my character:

1. Take an attack of opportunity with normal BAB?
2. Take an attack with a retroactively applied penalty for two-weapon fighting?
3. Not take an attack of opportunity, since I had not declare that round that I was fighting with two weapons?

SIMILAR SITUATION: My character has a throwing weapon and throws it. They then draw a second weapon as their move action (or Quick Draw it). Functionally, at the end of their turn, they are in the same situation as above.

Can my character now:

1. Take an attack of opportunity with normal BAB?
2. Take an attack with a retroactively applied penalty for two-weapon fighting?
3. Not take an attack of opportunity, since I had not declare that round that I was fighting with two weapons?

Is there a feat or spell that lets you take one magic item (worth X gp), reduce it to its components (X/2 gp) and use those to build a new magic item?

Pathfinder 1.0 only. No third party materials, please, or D&D 3.0/3.5 or homebrew stuff.

EDIT: Or "ask your GM." That isn't helpful, since the GM would prefer I find the solution within the rules rather than make him spend GM prep time going to the messageboards and asking this question himself and tracking the answers.

For a variety of reasons, my character wants to convert inevitables to the worship of Asmodeus and (thereby) to a lawful evil alignment. Are there ways within the rules, either magical or otherwise, to compel/convince outsiders to serve a different deity/alignment/goal than they normally do?

Assume I won't be able to spend years talking them into it. I need something quick and rules-legal. Also assume my GM isn't open to 3rd party or homebrew solutions.

And note that atonement doesn't work on outsiders, even if I could convince them to go along.

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As a counterpart to the "Something Weird That Annoys You" thread, I'd like to hear some of the weird things that you all really like. Some of mine include:

-The smell of oil paint.
-Pacing a gaming session perfectly as GM, so that all the critical points line up with snack breaks and the cliffhanger/conclusion ends at exactly the time we are scheduled to end.
-Etymology and making up new words from fragments of very old ones.
-The feeling I had during my one brush with the law when the traffic court prosecutor said "Since you corrected the registration problem, I'm dropping the charges against you." What a rush! I felt like I'd pulled off a Danny-Ocean-style heist.

What are some weird things that bring you joy?

So the other day we were fighting an antipaladin and we had to make saves against his cruelties when he channeled negative energy. I was under the impression that the cruelties only came into play with the touch of corruption--not the channeled energy.

SOURCE: "Whenever the antipaladin uses touch of corruption to deal damage to one target, the target also receives the additional effect from one of the cruelties possessed by the antipaladin."

Is there a feat or archetype that allows an antipaladin to apply cruelties to channeled energy?

So every table I've been at accepts the common idea that whenever you cast a spell there is a non-specified, but observable (unhideable, except w/certain feats) manifestation that reveals you have cast a spell.

Where is the source for that? I'll take either a CRB page number or PRD link.

NOTE: I'm not questioning this or looking to start a thing, I just realized I had been going with the flow on this and never actually seen a written rule about it.

Is there a vigilante archetype where the social and the vigilante identities are two different personalities, with each one not knowing about the other? Bonus points if it's magical.

My regular group don't read this:
The idea is to have a lich who has grown weary of immortality and evil. But he knows that the dark forces animating him won't allow him to end his own existence. In fact, they will do everything possible to prevent that. So he creates an alter-ego who is good, but suffers from amnesia. The PCs wind up recruited by this alter-ego to uncover his past and, eventually, to destroy the "lich who cursed him"--who of course is himself. I can always just handwave the two identities, but the vigilante seemed like a potentially cool way to make that work.

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Glorious. Simply glorious.

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I'm noodling with a campaign idea set in the Land of the Linnorm Kings (or at least, beginning there). I always like to give out a pretty extensive Player's Guide (one of the reasons I love the AP line is the awesome Player's Guides). One of my goals is to guide character creation towards characters who will fit the campaign.

Here's the suggestions I've got so far, but I want to make sure I didn't overlook anything that might be fitting/cool. Any archetypes or feats or traits or recommendations would be welcome.

BACKGROUND: The PCs will start as residents of a tiny, tiny hamlet in the wilds of the LotLK. They'll rise to be Vikingish raiders/conquerers/kings even maybe.

Human (Ulfen)
Half-orc (Ulfen)
Changeling (Snow May)

Barbarian (unchained)
Cleric (gods?)
Fighter (esp. Viking)
Rogue (unchained)


This is an offshoot of a different thread.

Let's say you had some sovereign glue. What could you glue people to?

My suggestions so far:

1. A feather token (tree)
2. Immovable rod

CRB wrote:
Add any bonuses you currently have on attack rolls due to spells, feats, and other effects. These bonuses must be applicable to the weapon or attack used to perform the maneuver.

QUESTION: If I have a changeling with the Mother's Gift (Hag Claws) feat (+1 racial bonus to attack/damage with claws) and Cruel Child trait (+1 to attack with claws during a full attack), do I add those to CMB rolls for maneuvers made as part of a full attack?

More generally: Which maneuvers can I add those bonuses to, if any?

EXAMPLE 1: A trip combat maneuver can be attempted in place of a regular attack. So I could do a full-round attack with her claws, declaring that the first claw will be a trip attempt (assume Improved Trip), adding +2 to the CMB roll from the trait & feat combo, right?

EXAMPLE 2: A grapple, on the other hand, is a standard action that isn't weapon specific. Therefore, her CMB for a grapple check (assume Improved Grapple) would not add the +2, since those bonuses are claw-specific, right?

QUESTION: If you have two X-type save bonuses against two different effects, do those bonuses stack?

EXAMPLE: The deathtouched trait gives you a +2 trait bonus against mind-affecting effects. The courageous trait gives you a +2 trait bonus against fear effects. If you are the target of a mind-affecting fear effect, is the total bonus to the Will save +2 or +4?

MY THOUGHT: At first glance, I'd say the bonus is +2, the rule against same-type bonuses superseding the fact that they are trait bonuses against different effects that happen to come from the same source. But I'm not completely sure.


I think I know how I'd rule on this, but I can't for the life of me find a clear rules statement:

EXAMPLE: If a creature has 2 natural attacks of the same kind (e.g., 2 claws) and levels in a class that grants the ability to imbue weapons with special abilities (like the paladin's holy bond), how does that interact?

THE WAY I THINK IT WORKS: The ability could be added to a single natural attack (i.e., one claw would become flaming or whatever).

THE WAY IT COULD WORK: The ability is added to both natural attacks of the same type (i.e., both claws but not a bite, if the creature also had a bite).

THE WAY IT MIGHT NOT WORK AT ALL: But there could be a statement somewhere that these types of enhancements only apply to manufactured weapons (or a monk's unarmed strikes). I haven't found one, but hey, big rule set...


From page 322: "Push actions... are difficult to perform but can yield greater results."

What does that mean, "difficult to perform"? The only difference I can find is that the system used to perform the action can't be malfunctioning or wrecked. Is that all? Why wouldn't you always do the push action then?

(I assume I'm missing something).

It's a big lake. Are there any known settlements of gillmen in/on/around Lake Encarthan? If there aren't any in official products, I'll make something up, but just curious if any published reference exists.

Suppose I cast a touch spell and then use a spell-like or supernatural polymorph ability to change shape. Am I still holding the charge?


Round 1: Druid casts cure moderate wounds, but doesn't touch anyone.
Round 2: Druid wildshapes into a bat.
Round 3: Druid flies up to ally and touches them to discharge the spell.


Anybody as stoked as I am about the upcoming Starfinder release? Anybody looking to put together a new sci-fantasy game sometime after August?

Ok, Hive Mind, time for some research! Can anyone find an example of a fear effect that is not mind-affecting?

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May everyone's 2017 be like finding a bag of Skittles in your car when you thought you were all out of Skittles.

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Does anyone know if there are canonical clerics dedicated to the Monad, Condition of All in Golarion? I've done a cursory search of the products I have, but don't see that as an option...

I was just thinking about occult-style adventures, and the Monad would be an interesting esoteric "deity."

In heady anticipation of Starfinder, I'm setting my traditional post-Thanksgiving one-shot in space (the PCs are going to be typical Golarionites, kidnapped by aliens).

To that end, I'd like to find a square-gridded map of a space station or enormous starship, preferably with a 5-foot scale.

Any suggestions?

Go go hive mind go!

Is the etheric tether required when the spiritualist fully manifests the phantom? Or is it an option that the spiritualist can choose at the time of full manifestation?

The reason I ask is it seems a bit powerful for a 1st level character to be able to call an incorporeal ally to search an entire dungeon for them. But the way the ability is written, it sounds like etheric tether is an additional option available for the phantom, when fully manifested, rather than being an inherent quality of the full manifestation.

Some clarification would be appreciated.

Does anyone know of a way to search for spells based on the criteria of being on more than one class list?

E.g., If I wanted to find all the spells that are on BOTH the alchemist and cleric list, is there a resource that provides an easy way to do that?

I've been reading a lot of Raymond Chandler recently, and that's given me some ideas for the next thing I want to GM. However, aside from Deadlands Noir (which doesn't have the feel I'm looking for), I don't know of any game systems or settings that fit that idiom.

I'd like to find something fairly low-magic, where the fantasy parts can be slowly worked in and aren't something the characters (or typical person-on-the-street) would know about.

Can anyone recommend anything for this?

Pardon what I am sure is redundancy, but my search-fu is failing me.

If a character has Spell Focus (or other similar feat that increases the save DC or caster level) and Craft Wand, do the wands she crafts benefit from that feat?

Citations, if they exist, please.

While the GM's role in Session Zero has been discussed, I think the players also bear some responsibility for figuring out how the party functions prior to the first encounter. True, part of the fun of a campaign (at least for me) is watching those dynamics develop session after session. But I find that so many of the (tiresome) at-table arguments and in-game disasters could be avoided if players took some time to make some preliminary decisions about the kind of game they are going to play.

NOTE: I don't think any given playstyle is "wrong". It's a freakin game. But I don't find it much fun if one person comes to the table with an "FPS/hack-slash" approach and another wants a "stagecraft/deep immersion improv" and still another is big into "collective lore-building on the shared Golarion canon."

To that end, I've thought of a few questions (with options that are by no means the ONLY answers), but would appreciate any suggestions. Go go Galton's Ox Weighers!


1. How are we going to treat NPCs? By this, I don't mean an in-game attitude (that will vary, obviously). What I mean is, are we going to treat NPCs as devices/pretexts/lootbags or are we going to treat them as actual people?

EXAMPLE: The Mayor starts talking. Do we wave our hands and say "just give us the quest highlights"? Or do we spend time on talking with her about things other than where the goblins are?

2. Are we going to treat our characters as the unalterable centerpoints of the fictional world, around which every story bends, or are we going to see them as protagonist in one story, that intersects with other stories whose protagonists may not share our sense of self importance?

EXAMPLE: A player dies. Do we find the nearest sufficiently high level priest and deduct the money from our character sheets and go back to work? Or do we accept that maybe a priest who can cast raise dead might have other things on his agenda than commerce?

3. How are we going to treat one another's characters? Are we going to tally up the various numbers and try to keep them in balance? Or are we going to interact as individuals with wants/needs that are not necessarily numerated?

EXAMPLE: We found an ancient trove! One character is obsessed with Thassilon and there is a ring of force shield that manifests as a glowing Rune of Greed. Do we check the spreadsheet and realize he has too much wealth comparatively and therefore sell it and balance the gold? Or do we let him have it, regardless of the fact that this means another character is functionally more poor?

4. On a related note, how are we going to treat the items we find in campaign? Will they be numbers? Or narrative devices?

EXAMPLE: We find a rope of climbing. Do we sell it for 1,500 gp, which could buy us two wands that might achieve the same mechanical goal? Or do we say "Neat!" and incorporate it into our character's idiom?

5. What is our attitude as players to the campaign world? Is it a source of mechanical advantages and challenges? Or is it a place to interact with?

EXAMPLE: Do we play a Mwangi witch with the winter witch archetype, because who would see that coming and the save DCs get pretty sick, especially against jungle creatures with no defenses against cold? Or do we accept that a Mwangi witch might face things that are adapted to fighting Mwangi witches, because that's where they live?

6. What is our goal as players, in one word?

My group is starting a new Iron Gods campaign that could use one or two more players in Raleigh, NC. We'll meet Sunday afternoons. PM me if interested.

Does anyone know of a feat/ability that would allow a cleric (possibly with the Iron Priest archetype) to command/turn constructs the way the Command/Turn Undead feat works for regular clerics?

Anyone in Raleigh NC (or w/in reasonable drive time) looking for players? I've done some PFS stuff, but prefer a home game. An AP would be great - there are so many good ones, I don't really care which I play, though I've gone through Serpent's Skull, the first book of Rise of the Runelords, and run Reign of Winter.

I'm looking for a regular weekday group. Long time player. Would like to find an AP to play in, but homebrew campaign is fun too.