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Any Sufficiently Advanced Science
Level 4 theorem
You may use Life science or Physical science instead of Mysticism for crafting Spell Ampoules as if they were serums. Like your serums, these Ampoules are not magic items, can be identified using Life Science or Physical Science rather than Mysticism, and do not require a detect magic spell to attempt such a check to identify. Any abilities you have that affect serums also affect Spell Ampoules as if they were serums.

I'm debating prereqing it with Ampoule Expertise Theorem, but I'm not sure.

Any critiques or advice would be appreciated. (Even on the name. I'm debating whether or not it needs the 'Any' at the beginning.) I don't do a lot of homebrew, I just really liked the idea of a biohacker making spell ampoules similarly to serums.

Saddness.

Guns & Gears pg. 151

Because making rounds of firearm ammunition requires creating black powder, you need the Alchemical Crafting skill feat to make them.

Munitions Crafter

If you use a batch of infused reagents to create basic level-0 ammunition such as black powder cartridges or black powder doses, you produce 10 rounds of ammunition.

Yes, you can use Munitions Crafter to make ammo for your Beast Gun.

Even though beast guns don't use black powder?

From Guns and Gears, page 154:

"Unless otherwise stated, these rounds come in packs of 10 that cost 1 sp and have light Bulk. The only weapon in this section that works significantly differently is the growth gun, which grows back a gob of its own ammunition once per round, ensuring you always have enough ammunition to fire a shot every round."

They do not seem to be either magical or alchemical ammunition, which means all you need is the Craft skill. Munitions crafter won't work here since they're not alchemical ammo/

Hmmm. I assumed they were alchemical at least, but you're right it doesn't seem to say it is. That's a bit disappointing, as I liked the idea of being able to make some quickly. Probably just buy them then.

So my character found a beast gun. What does he need to craft ammo for it? Can it be made free with munitions crafter? Do I need magical crafting? I can't seem to find any answers on that.

I failed to get into this completely. It sold out crazy fast. (Are they running fewer tables or something, I dont remember other games running along side this last year) what are the odds I'll be able to get in with generics? Good, possible, or am I just sol?

Ambassador, Animal Exemplar, Egotist, Prankster, and Soulbound are all new, I believe.

I'll have to take a look at those. I had thought about Mauler but I wanted to do that with my magus, and sage figment is what my crazy oracle is using.

Of the new ones, which ones do people think would work best with a surly drunken dwarf?

The spider works well with the protector archetype if the wizard would like a little extra defense. It has a dex of 21 and +7 to hit so that's plenty of opportunities to use the the loyal body guard ability should he find himself in a tricky situation. He would want to keep an eye on it's health though.

Were any new archetypes added in or was it just reprints of the ones in the folio?

I'm running a mythic game semi regularly and one of the characters (a ranger) contracted Lycanthropy, well actually Entothropy and is now an infected werespider. I found myself wondering, since true Lycanthropes/Entothropes are generally too powerful to be in a regular party, but what about a Mythic party?

So I'm looking for advice on that. I'm pretty sure the player would go for it if it was presented as an option. Could Lycanthropy be used in place of a path ability perhaps requiring mythic power to shift. Or is too much for that? I'm not really good at judging power levels on paper.

Any advice would be appreciated.

supervillan wrote:

Dear god, yet another hardcover full of nerfs.

There were like two. The Tumor Familiar can't be a Protector anymore, and Snowball now has "Spell Resistance yes". Both were due.

I actually disagree with both of those being due, but I don't think that it ruins anything. Just disappointed that I'll have to rework my concept.

You could always backwards compatible yourself up a 3.5 wildshape ranger they give up combat styles completely for wildshape at 4th level. Might take some tweaking, but if I recall it was a nice option so long ago.

Well Damn, this negates my PFS monk alchemists feat choices almost entirely and I never even got to use the familiar, because I don't get to play often. Had they simply said he can't protect while attached, that would have been very reasonable, but this is just a poor decision.

Oh well I kind of like the figment idea. Or maybe the mauler, make it an aggressive tumor. Or maybe I'll just retrain him. Or just consider it a loss and scrap the character altogether.

Tears to Wine works on liquids that aren't exactly water. Like oil. Or melted wax. A friend tried to argue he could use it on lava, but the whole table shot that down(despite it being funny).

Ya know I would agree that it works on lava, assuming it's a very liquidy lava. The problem is that it has a strict 10ft range limit, and getting within 10 feet of lava is generally very bad. Also, all the lava that doesn't get turned into wine would boil away the newly magicked spirit pretty quick.

Java Man wrote:

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Coidzor wrote:

Speaking of weirdness, IIRC, sponges would technically be a kind of plant.

kanonen wrote:

they would possibly fall under vermin

No, vermin are invertebrates. Bats and Dire Bats are mammals and have spines and the like.

Well rats are considered vermin in PF and they are also mammals.

This is news to me, could you point me to a citaion? I'm coming up empty trying to track it down.

Huh weird after doing a search on the pfsrd aparenlty its only fiendish and celestial rats (as well as every other celestial and fiendish small animal wtf?) also Sea Anemone and all sorts of crabs.

This is a bit late of a response, but they aren't vermin either, it's just that the PSRD filter doesn't filter them out ever. So even if you filter out all creature types those celestial and fiendish rats will still show up along with a few other things.

I would say the reach applies to either since we are going with a fantasy world and in stories (anime and such) the kama part is thrown even if real world it wouldn't work as well as the wieght. Even though it doesn't say it it I would assume that like the double chain kama, you lose the double weapon property when using the reach property.

Edit actually upon rereading it maybe you don't. Upon rereading I could see it meaning the ball has reach but not the kama but then you don't lose the double weapon property (although opportunities to use reach and attack with the kama at the same time are likely to be few I would think) Definitely worth a faq to see what the intent was.

MM, FB and DBFB were in AD&D1 and neither was capped, DBFB had improved damage though, in addition to the delay

I know they were in 1st ed. as well. What I meant was that the versions I was looking at were 2nd ed. (sorry I kept having to fix spelling errors and forgot to make sure my wording was clear.

Eviljames wrote:

PAthfinder didn't cap the d6's on those spells or Magic missile. Those were capped in D&D as well. There was I hight level version of Magic missle that allowed more missles and delayed blast fire ball had a higher cap that fireball. but they all had caps. it just didn't matter as much because everything had fewer hit points until 3rd ed.

Uh, I distinctly remember that in AD&D 1st ed spells like Magic Missile and Fireball were definitely uncapped... do you remember if it started with 2nd ed or with 3.0?

I never played 1st much so if they weren't capped there they were definitely capped in 2nd. Part of the reason for delayed blast fireball was the improved damage, and I was just looking at the higher level Magic missile that would be pointless if the Magic Missile didn't cap. These were 2nd ed spells.

Eviljames wrote:

Lady-J wrote:

Eviljames wrote:

ChaosTicket wrote:

Well what spells stay useful from start to finish?

Magic Missile could be pretty useful if you gained another shot every level. Many spells gain +1d6 per level but have a cap in Pathfinder so everything ends up obsolete.

Without some very powerful spells than the entire system of limited spells per day is sort of pointless.

The original point of spells and spellcasters is that they are not practical or even powerful early on but once you do reach the higher levels then you have the ability to One-shot many enemies but even then you have to be careful or else youll be without spells.

NPCs would be more dangerous as they wouldnt need to concern themselves with conserving spells.

PAthfinder didn't cap the d6's on those spells or Magic missile. Those were capped in D&D as well. There was I hight level version of Magic missle that allowed more missles and delayed blast fire ball had a higher cap that fireball. but they all had caps. it just didn't matter as much because everything had fewer hit points until 3rd ed.

ooo what was the higher level magic missile?

Hang on, let me dig out my old Wizard's Spell compendium.

It was Improved Magic Missile (real obvious name)It was a 3rd level spell and it operated exactly like magic missile except that the cap was at 10 missiles. Even though you could cast it at 5th level it wasn't really useful until 11th level when you capped out the 1st level version. It was a spell from the Mystara Campaign setting even though it lacked that setting's typical long flowery spell names.

so it was sort of like pathfinders mythic magic missile

Yeah pretty much, which kinda makes sense, if you consider that the spell is from the Mystara setting and Mystara was the OD&D campaign world updated for 2nd ed and in OD&D becoming an Immortal godling was part of your progression.

Eviljames wrote:

ChaosTicket wrote:

Well what spells stay useful from start to finish?

Magic Missile could be pretty useful if you gained another shot every level. Many spells gain +1d6 per level but have a cap in Pathfinder so everything ends up obsolete.

Without some very powerful spells than the entire system of limited spells per day is sort of pointless.

The original point of spells and spellcasters is that they are not practical or even powerful early on but once you do reach the higher levels then you have the ability to One-shot many enemies but even then you have to be careful or else youll be without spells.

NPCs would be more dangerous as they wouldnt need to concern themselves with conserving spells.

PAthfinder didn't cap the d6's on those spells or Magic missile. Those were capped in D&D as well. There was I hight level version of Magic missle that allowed more missles and delayed blast fire ball had a higher cap that fireball. but they all had caps. it just didn't matter as much because everything had fewer hit points until 3rd ed.

ooo what was the higher level magic missile?

Hang on, let me dig out my old Wizard's Spell compendium.

Well what spells stay useful from start to finish?

Magic Missile could be pretty useful if you gained another shot every level. Many spells gain +1d6 per level but have a cap in Pathfinder so everything ends up obsolete.

Without some very powerful spells than the entire system of limited spells per day is sort of pointless.

The original point of spells and spellcasters is that they are not practical or even powerful early on but once you do reach the higher levels then you have the ability to One-shot many enemies but even then you have to be careful or else youll be without spells.

NPCs would be more dangerous as they wouldnt need to concern themselves with conserving spells.

PAthfinder didn't cap the d6's on those spells or Magic missile. Those were capped in D&D as well. There was I hight level version of Magic missle that allowed more missles and delayed blast fire ball had a higher cap that fireball. but they all had caps. it just didn't matter as much because everything had fewer hit points until 3rd ed.

I probably wouldn't bring any save or die's over but there are few utility and fun spells in Second Ed that I may have to try and port over.
Namely Nemicron's Transference that let you switch the properties of one material with the properties of another. Things like hardness, melting point even edibility (not sure how that last one worked but it doesn't matter, it's never come up) It was a easy way for characters to make cool looking gear like swords made of ice and what not.

Also the Special Effects spell. It's only purpose was to allow wizards the abilty to have various permanent non harmful special effects like glowey eyes or hands, constantly wind blown hair and what not. It was a kind of silly one but it allowed for your characters to make quite an entrance.
There were a few others, but these were the ones that showed up the most when I played 2nd Ed.

Keith Richmond wrote:

I wouldn't assign much importance to the class traits chosen for the cards. Especially since we tend to assign only one class for multiclass characters.

This was an early mandate of mine, because I didn't want to open the door for (say) Varian getting five class traits. I let it go with the rogue/monk Tsuto Kaijitsu, and I regretted it almost immediately as people started asking about missing traits on other multiclass individuals. So, one class per card.

With Drelm, I don't recall him even thinking about casting spells. But then it's been a while since I read Plague of Shadows and I haven't read the second book.

But overall it is a minor concern.

Looking at the Mummy's Mask add on Deck.... Since when was Drelm a cleric in Plague of Shadows? I thought he was just a devout fighter.

Other than that, I like the idea of this.

Unusual eyes are easily handled in story I would think.

You had things that you had to cut but left Jason X on the list? I will forgive you because I see Wayne Barlowe on there. Wayne Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials was basically a childhood reading guide for me. From there I read Childhood's End and Larry Niven's Neutron Star. But then again, I don't see Outlaw Star or John Christopher's Tripod trilogy.

Some of my additional influences when I begin running this.
Soldier, Ask Not - Gordon R Dickson
I Have No Mouth and I must Scream
"Repent Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman - Harlan Ellison ( I saw some influence from "I Have No Mouth..." in Pathfinder and hope to see some here as well)
The Darfsteller - Walter M. Miller jr
Flowers for Algernon - Daniel Keyes
Stranger in a Strange Land Robert Heinlein

I'm afraid my influences from other media doesn't expand beyond what's listed though.
Actually, now that I look through the list, I'm a bit suprised not to see the original Transformers series on there. I mean, I see Silverhawks (and I am super happy to see that) But no Transformers, no He-man, no She-ra and no Exo-Squad (I loved me some Exo-Squad)

Eviljames wrote:

That's why you came to me, isn't it captain? Because you knew that I could do those things that you weren't capable of. Well it worked. And you'll get what you want. A war between the Vesk and the Swarm. And if your conscience bothers you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Pact system! And all it cost, was the life of one Vesk Senator, one criminal,and the self respect of one Exo-Guardian officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that, a bargain.

Easily my favorite episode of Star Trek.

Not QUITE what I intended for the Exo-Guardians... but now I'm tempted.

Well I assumed that that line wouldn't be standard practice, but it is what comes to mind for me when "tough decisions" and "how far would you go" get mentioned. I could see the possibility of scenario happening at least.

Also, easily one of the best episodes ever.

I know I'm really late to this party, but this might be relevant to people who want miniatures for some of the more obscure mythological monsters. There is a company called Paymaster games that makes miniatures based on Native American and Pacific Islander mythology and history. They are currently in the process of making a miniature for Cipactli, the multi mouth crocodile monster in this book. Check em out. They are pretty small right now, I think they only have an Ebay store and do Kickstarters occasionally.

In a setting without paladins as a core class, the Exo-Guardians are somewhat more flexible in terms of what they are willing to do to protect the Pact Worlds from external threats. The Exo-Guardians let us explore some tough questions, like how far would you go to protect your home from external threats?

That's why you came to me, isn't it captain? Because you knew that I could do those things that you weren't capable of. Well it worked. And you'll get what you want. A war between the Vesk and the Swarm. And if your conscience bothers you, you should soothe it with the knowledge that you may have just saved the entire Pact system! And all it cost, was the life of one Vesk Senator, one criminal,and the self respect of one Exo-Guardian officer. I don't know about you, but I'd call that, a bargain.

Eviljames wrote:

danielc wrote:

While I like these Minotaurs, I do have to ask when will we get some of the simple things like a mule with supplies on it? I mean there has been a mule in almost every adventure I have ever played and yet it has not showed up at all in PPM.

I love the quality and work Paizo puts into the PPM line so I would love to see them do a mule.

Reaper just today released a pack donkey in unpainted plastic if you are interested.

They have a camel with luggage and stuff as a separate piece too.

-Ant, Giant (I use the D&D minis ant people for this, or the Large Celestial beetle)
-Bat (there are 2 D&D minis and a Pathfidner Battles mini for this. Wizkids' familer packs for the unpainted deep cuts has a bat as well. Reaper 77176: Familiars pack also has one unpainted)
-Boar (we have a small/medium pig and a large boar, I don't think we need more.)
-Cat (Reaper 77176: Familiars pack has this, and its a really easy thing to paint)
-Dolphin
-Eel-Reaper item 02948:Familiar Pack VII ($13.99 - metal unpainted) has this
-Monkey
-Octopus-Reaper item 02948:Familiar Pack VII ($13.99 - metal unpainted) has this
-Squid
-Toad
-Viper - There are lots of various snakes minis that cover small/medium including vipers in Heros and monsters, and at least 43 I can think for from D&D minis)
-Weasel (Reaper 77176: Familiars pack has this, and its a really easy thing to paint, There is also a Dire weasel in the D&D mini set angelfire)

Oh yeah forgot about the camel. I don't think it was released singularly yet, but it should be soon.

I like the cleric the best. All three are cool.

I find it interesting that many minotaurs in D&D are large, but some of were mediums.

In Pathfinder are they all larges?

Minotaurs were only medium if you were playing Dragonlance, and then only if you were playing 3rd ed. (Possibly 4th as well, I'm not sure) In previous editions Minotaurs were large no matter what world they came from.

While I like these Minotaurs, I do have to ask when will we get some of the simple things like a mule with supplies on it? I mean there has been a mule in almost every adventure I have ever played and yet it has not showed up at all in PPM.

I love the quality and work Paizo puts into the PPM line so I would love to see them do a mule.

Reaper just today released a pack donkey in unpainted plastic if you are interested.

Can poppets be created with craft construct if a character already has that?

We are the Moonanites and our culture is advanced beyond anything you can understand.

I can get on again so yay! Shortly after I said that last time, nothing worked for me me once again. Couldn't go to the main page, couldn't go to the prd, couldn't even get to the message boards to say, "Hey, I can't get to anything!" I'm here now and I hope it lasts.

Yay! I can finally access this site. Couldn't access anything at all accept the first page of the Prd since sunday and only because the prd main page was still in my cache. After I cleared that I ended up with nothing. Too bad I don't remember why I was trying to access the site any more. :(

Vic Wertz wrote:

(Also, "Scorpionproof" would make an excellent name for a pepper-infused vodka.)

Step 1: Drink enough vodka to clear space in the bottle, and to ease any doubts you may have that proceeding to step 2 might or might not be a good idea...

Step 2: Chop two to three North Carolina Reapers into bits small enough to fit through the bottle neck. If you've done Step 1 properly, you should have no qualms about leaving the seeds in.

Step 3: Insert the peppers into the bottle. (EDIT: I had assumed this step was implied, but I remembered my audience, and figured I'd rather not have to FAQ it later...)

Step 4: Re-cap and leave on the counter for 3 to 4 weeks.

Step 5: Prepare to cast Fire Sneeze...

Now now, if your going to do this, I must insist the pepper be Trinidad Scorpion Peppers otherwise, it just doesn't work.

I know I'm a little late for this, but some one said to avoid giants at the low levels. On this I disagree, You can totally kill the giants and mammoth easily that our just outside Whiterun and you can do so at first level. First get there attention. Then run like hell, occasionally stopping to fire an arrow at them. Make you way as fast as you frantically can to the tower that the Jarl sent you to defend. Then go inside and stand just inside the doorway and shoot or hack at the giant or mammoth to your heart's content (mammoths are a bit trickier this way since they seem a bit smarter than the giants and are less likely to just stand in the doorway.) If this seems to cheap and exploity for you then you can just run around and dodge through the rubble outside the tower and otherwise use the terrain to your advantage to kill them. You can also do this with the giants just north of that tower.

Personally I'm an orc archer that uses summons and occasionally destruction. I had planned melee and still do it but sneaking and archery are just so good in this game.

Bluenose wrote:

Why would a Vesk imagine that aliens would be just like them in terms of biology and in this case fashion? And for that matter, why is fashion in Starfinder-verse assumed to be like modern western fashion?

I bet you are an absolute DE-LIGHT at parties.

Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. :)

The red ones act somewhat differently that European standards yes, but still pretty close to something we can identify. Sci-fi is written that way because we as the reader still needs to identify and relate in some fashion to the main characters. At any rate, your question kinda answers itself,

Why would a Vesk imagine that aliens would be just like them in terms of biology and in this case fashion? And for that matter, why is fashion in Starfinder-verse assumed to be like modern western fashion?

Their is no reason to assume that they would other than as has already been said, because we do. (Also the fashion assumptions in this particular joke were likely to avoid making up words and to have it be understood by a modern audience) Also, it was a joke.

Because I couldn't help myself, I just spent a number of hours over the last couple of days looking for a compatible figure, as a Vesk WILL be my first character for Starfinder. Every repilian race I have found a mini for has a pronounced muzzle....anyone else had any luck ?? If there is nothing out there, I hope Paizo get a license with Reaper ASAP ;)

I have a couple minis that work well enough that came from a paint n take a few years ago, but they are from Badger games, which seems to be a hobby operation that goes to a few conventions a year and whose website has been under construction for about a decade :(. So that's not really gonna help.

I really need to stop trying to make jokes late a night, just before bed. They are never as clear as I think.

Eviljames wrote:

Lemartes wrote:

Lukewarm on this race. Seems too much like the Jem'Hadar.

The art is good, especially the skirt. Not too crazy about the mid-riff armour as that makes little sense to me. Otherwise well done.

Is there much difference between males and females? I'm going to assume we are looking at two males?

TerminalArtiste mentioned variants...I think that might make me more interested.

Awaiting the final race. :)

Midriff armor is how you know that it's female.

I like them. I see that a number here do not, but I like them. One reason being, that I already have minis for them. They are even already painted.

My wife was disappointed that they're tall though, she has a short lizard alien mini with a big gun that want's to play at some point.

Play as a youth or a character that was stunted somehow that rejects Vesk society?

That might work for her. Or perhaps some of the suggested variants could work. Those might even make them hit the "different enough" button for some who currently don't like the Vesk.

Eviljames wrote:

Lemartes wrote:

Lukewarm on this race. Seems too much like the Jem'Hadar.

The art is good, especially the skirt. Not too crazy about the mid-riff armour as that makes little sense to me. Otherwise well done.

Is there much difference between males and females? I'm going to assume we are looking at two males?

TerminalArtiste mentioned variants...I think that might make me more interested.

Awaiting the final race. :)

Midriff armor is how you know that it's female.

I like them. I see that a number here do not, but I like them. One reason being, that I already have minis for them. They are even already painted.

My wife was disappointed that they're tall though, she has a short lizard alien mini with a big gun that want's to play at some point.

Is it female? Not sure if you're joking about the midriff. I like females with armour that makes sense.

*sigh* I had assumed it was an obvious joke. That's what I get for assuming. Probably should have put a ":p" after it. Yes, armor should make sense. Fantasy female armor often doesn't, hence the joke.

Lukewarm on this race. Seems too much like the Jem'Hadar.

The art is good, especially the skirt. Not too crazy about the mid-riff armour as that makes little sense to me. Otherwise well done.

Is there much difference between males and females? I'm going to assume we are looking at two males?

TerminalArtiste mentioned variants...I think that might make me more interested.

Awaiting the final race. :)

Midriff armor is how you know that it's female.

I like them. I see that a number here do not, but I like them. One reason being, that I already have minis for them. They are even already painted.

My wife was disappointed that they're tall though, she has a short lizard alien mini with a big gun that want's to play at some point.

If anybody is interested in some Aztec warriors and unusual monsters, then they should check this out. They've run several kickstarters before and haven't had any issues. Check it out.

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or electronic access to the Pathfinder Reference Document along with a screenshot of your My Downloads page proving that you own the source of the material.

The spines of many convention going nerds thank you.

Proper lifting techniques my friend. All convention going nerds need to know proper lifting techniques. It should be their knees thanking the staff.

Painting is lots of fun though. Making the mini look just like I picture my character. I love being able to put a mini down and be able to say, "This is what he looks like." Pre paints are great for monster squads though as I may or may not have time for that depending on how prepped I am for a game. I'm a little surprised that it's Soda pop/ninja division handling these rather than Wizkids.
Soda pops pretty good though, as I said before, I have some of their Relic Knights minis so I know they can handle science fantasy

As miniatures and monsters. I just hope there there are oni in space. So I have an additional use for my Relic Knights Noh forces.

Oceanshieldwolf wrote:

Is that a kasatha iconic?

Well... the OTHER two figures on the cover have been revealed to be Iconics...

Sooo that's a no then?

:P

I generally assume so. I look at it as when you get a wolf and it reaches that level and you take the large option then it's "whoops! Looks like, what you thought was just a regular wolf was actually a dire wolf cub all along." And if you don't make it large then it's just a regular wolf.

In fact I'm pretty sure the dire wolf monster entry said something about wolves and dire wolves using the same stat block for animal companions. I could be imagining that though.

Yep. Well-worn paths here, but...

Bears are stupidly strong, pound for pound- but if we gave bears the strength scores they should have, they'd be effectively TPK machines the way strength damage bonuses are calculated...

Humans on Earth don't have the hit point pools of humans in D&D.

OGL does not mean no copyright.

Eldora Speedway.

Issues of OGL and copyright aren't exactly on my mind now, I'm more concerned about the fate of 3.X mechanically.

The books are still there. They're fine. Nobody hurt them. You are free to use them to your heart's content.

Dude. I found the preorder books on amazon and did a google search that brought me here. It would have been nice for a link instead of someone telling me im in the wrong place..... Even a stranger on the side of the road can point a finger. Thanks for nothing.

Thread necromancy is poor netiquette everywhere. It would be more appropriate for you to apologize, then ask.

Is "this plan" some elaborate scheme to win at social engineering against this friend using game mechanics rather than just talking to them?

Be a Wizard.

Have a contingency that will teleport you out of range if he comes within reach.

Use wall spells to encircle the Paladin. Wall of Iron in particular. Start with a Quickened Wall of Iron via metamagic rod to encircle the Paladin, then use the metamagic rod in your other hand to drop a maximized Cloudkill, which will do two points of constitution damage per round even on a successful save.

On followup turns, maximize a Freezing Fog via rod. 18 cold damage isn't enough to harm the wall of iron.

Then, when the Paladin starts attacking the wall, whatever side he attacks, cast Wall of Force on that side, which will be much harder to get through. Three walls of force and he's stuck in a much stronger cage.

All those options ignore spell resistance, and the only thing that offers a save still does 2 Con damage if it works.

If you can get Fogcutting Lenses approved, this becomes much easier.

Have a bunch of Dispel Magic ready, and you just have to hold him in the cloud long enough for him to die of Cloudkill and DoT, and dispel whatever countermeasures he has in the form of magic. Your spell slots will outlast his.

These "convince me" threads are a colossal waste of time. If you don't want to play it, find something that appeals to you.

Meanwhile, I'll keep playing Pathfinder and effortlessly pumping out new PCs in five minutes with Hero Lab. That's how we roll.

You are free to scroll right on by, friend.

Also, that ain't the kind of attitude that builds a community.

How do you dig into the character options?

There are a few ways.

The normal and expected way? You start with the core book, maybe plus one. You pick a race, class, skills, feats, maybe some spells, and some gear. Class, feats, spells are the parts that require some measure of system mastery, but ultimately, you start small.

Once you're comfortable with that book, you spiral out to other books.

Most classes can nominally do well with just their book of origin and the core rules, setting aside the divide between casters and non-casters, and the rest is just more toys. There are also guides to almost every class and places you can get together with folks that have the ridiculous encyclopedic knowledge, which can point you to spiffy options you may not have considered.

But character creation in Pathfinder is not just a means to an end. It is, itself, a game. If you do not enjoy fiddling with character creation, you probably won't enjoy Pathfiner. Or Exalted. Or Shadowrun. Or most really heavy character creation systems.

Almost like Paizo's site is kinda terrible.

I really, really hope not.

Keep the anime knock-offs out of the game as much as possible, please.

Pulp grab bag is basically the Paizo brand.

Clearly, it is your moral imperative to get together with your party away from the GM's prying ears, then show up with a party consisting of a Vampire Hunter, a Shifter, a Witch, and an Investigator, and just straight-up play a medieval version of the cast of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

First?

Bad. I don't care if you don't want to lose, you shouldn't be looking up stuff like this. That's cheating.

Second?

Golems have infinite spell resistance. Magic Jar has to oppose spell resistance. It automatically fails.

Third?

This is not the question of someone who doesn't want their ass kicked. This is someone who wants to cheese their way into having a stupid overpowered toy. If the goal were to not get your ass kicked, you'd be looking for ways to beat, bypass, or negate it. Not take it for your own.

I strongly suggest you apologize to your GM for cheating.

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Those are literally the worst two schools to ban.

Literally any of the full casters work, since there are so many spells that obviate traditional stealth. And by the book, death spells are about the only reliable way to kill someone quickly enough for them to not call for help unless you severely outlevel them.

If you're legitimately trying to put a product out on the market, Zolanoteph, go get more reliable legal advice than strangers on a message board, or contact Paizo directly. They've dealt with new third party developers before.

The paladin's code of conduct is literally the definition of what a paladin is. You've just named one reason I refuse to use 5th ed as toilet paper, and a reason I likely would refuse to touch pf 2.0 if they implement that. You take away the CoC, you've literally destroyed the founding concept of the entire class.

Literally all the core deities that can have paladins take away the code of conduct.

And then replace it with their own, different code of conduct, which varies wildly from god to god. Which is good. Instead of the code being this abstract, nebulous ideal of benevolent warrior dude, it's a specific relationship with one's god.

Also, Pathfinder has multiple ways to remove, broaden, or modify a Paladin's code of conduct. Like, say, the Vindictive Bastard. Which is literally saying "no" to falling. Do you refuse to touch the current Pathfinder?

5e does not remove the paladin code. It changes and renames the paladin code. You have your oaths, which form the nature of your relationship with your ideals and your god.

Here's the thing that happens every time the game has the lawful-good must-be-within-one-step-of-deity Paladin. Someone will raise a perfectly valid point about a perfectly valid character. Like, "I want to make a holy warrior paladin of the Elven people. This is a neat, perfectly reasonable character concept that should exist, but all the elf gods in Faerun are chaotic/good and can't have paladins!" and the devs turn around and say, "Here's the paladin of freedom! They're exactly like a paladin but with some really minor tweaks and they're chaotic/good! Now make your Paladin of Corellon Larethian who already would have worked just fine if we hadn't written the Paladin into being one-size-fits-all!" Or the blackguard. Or the anti-paladin. Or the paladin of slaughter. Or the paladin of tyranny. Or the gray paladin. Or the paladin of still being a really nice dude but sometimes using poison. Or the paladin of tax evasion.

Here's the thing. All of those are the same thing. They are all the holy warrior committed to an ideal or deity, whether that cause is the violent justice of Iomedae, or the oppressive tyranny of Bane, or the nebulous general benevolence of the Sovereign Host, or being the pretty warrior who fights for love and justice. They are all paladins. What's important is, what are their ideals and their relationship to those ideals. Because what it means to be a paragon is very different under Torag versus Shelyn.

What fifth edition does remove is not the code, but the mechanic of falling, because that is and always has been a deeply problematic mechanic that deserves reconsideration. The interesting thing about the paladin is their relationship with their deity or ideal, and their quest to live up to it. But falling as a mechanic turns the friend and guide that the code is supposed to be into a hammer, where if you slip up, you are afflicted with a fate literally worse than death, and become an NPC warrior. That is, was, and always has been a terrible idea as a game mechanic, and is the root of many of the root of decades of bickering and alignment wanks.

"Must be lawful/good" and "fall if you commit an evil act," are boring, uninteresting, and unessential to the notion of Paladin. It's much more interesting to make the consequences roleplay-related instead of taking away all of a PC's class abilities.

You know what is interesting?

Here's the code for Paladins of Torag.

"My word is my bond. When I give my word formally, I defend my oath to my death. Traps lie in idle banter or thoughtless talk, and so I watch my tongue.

"Against my people’s enemies, I will show no mercy. I will not allow their surrender, except when strategy warrants. I will defeat them, yet even in the direst struggle, I will act in a way that brings honor to Torag."

Now, here's the code for Paladins of Shelyn.

"I see beauty in others. As a rough stone hides a diamond, a drab face may hide the heart of a saint.

"I lead by example, not with my blade. Where my blade passes, a life is cut short, and the world’s potential for beauty is lessened."

Putting two characters side-by-side who aspire to these completely different ideals, who sometimes stumble but always try? That is fodder for an interesting Paladin story and character dynamic. What's more, the code of Torag endorses and even requires some very morally questionable behavior in times of war. That "offer no mercy, accept no surrender" mindset promotes many acts that may normally be considered evil and worthy of falling for other paladins, but which are appropriate to the ideals of Torag, and the relationship between a paladin of Torag, their god, and their community. And the exact opposite of what a Paladin of Shelyn would be expected to do. This is a dynamic that feeds good storytelling, rather than shutting it down or punishing it.

It's infinitely more interesting than...

"A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if she ever willingly commits an evil act.

"Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents."

Which leads to situations like, "You lied to the BBEG's border guards to get into the evil empire and liberate the people. You violated the code. Rules explicitly dictate that you lose all class abilities until you can receive a fifth-level spell and go on a quest to atone," or alternately, the paladin shuts down the plan to trick the border guards for fear of falling due to their code.

And it means another party member's entire build won't get shut down because someone decided to bring a paladin, and instead, the group gets to play around with an interesting character dynamic. That makes for a better game, and a more entertaining party dynamic than, "I am required to either refuse to associate with or slay this other PC or I lose all my class abilities."

So, in conclusion? No, removing the code as a mechanic is not insane. Disagreeing with you is not madness. Calling disagreeing with you madness is not conducive to discussion. Removing or altering the code does not ruin the Paladin. And your specific vision of the Paladin is not the only valid vision.

I disagree with Lady J on many of her points about paladins and alignment in other threads. That does not make her insane, nor does it make personal attacks appropriate.

Actually, on Earth, almost everyone says that their deity is the best and most powerful, and that only their faith worships their deity in the right way, and everyone else is going to Hell . . . including players of role-playing games who can consider the concept of different deities -- although fortunately this doesn't seem to have been on their radar for a while, it's only a matter of time before it is once again . . . .

That's a fairly Judeo-Christian concept. Down to the notion of "their deity."

More faiths admit to being polytheistic than claim to be monotheistic. And the D&D concept of having your one god, just as a regular person rolling around, in a polytheistic setting? That's just weird. Generally folks venerate many, many gods.

But even then, offering the most veneration to the most powerful god was pretty rare. Among the Olympians, yeah, Zeus was generally acknowledged as most powerful and given respect and worship, but Hera was far more widely worshiped because she was more relevant to folks' day-to-day lives.

Then you have cases like Shinto that, yes, has some big powerful gods, but places much more emphasis on small gods.

Also, the dogma of D&D-style gods doesn't really incorporate an idea that worshipers of other, similarly aligned gods are wrong, or damned, and it's objectively established that they're going to some variation of paradise when they die.

Actually, Sara Marie, this is an advice thread, which means that if somebody gives an answer that is inherently untenable, such as simply getting rid of an inconvenient class restriction that is a pivotal part of the entire class, this SHOULD be pointed out so that the person asking for advice - or anyone else coming here for suggestions on a similar issue - don't think that this is actually a feasible course of action. As a Piazo representative, you should be FAR more concerned with the insane suggestion of doing so than the person who politely pointed out the flaw.

Then target the talking points, not the person. And yes, there were direct attacks on the person.

And at the point where you are arguing with the mods about how they should be moderating, perhaps it is time to step back from the keyboard.

"Dead" is generally considered negative, and it is on the list of conditions. It was added in previous editions because once upon a time, there were no listed mechanical consequences for "dead," so if you wanted to be super pedantic, it didn't actually stop you from doing anything.

That said, you'd still have to pay the reagent cost of Reincarnate to cast the spell, and if it doesn't trigger within the duration of the contingency, the reagents are wasted. Breath of Life is generally the better option for a Contingent Spell.

On the one hand, a sort of 'Pathfinder Unchained 2' which introduced some new stuff, perhaps even some setting-agnostic stuff (like clerics of philosophies), could be neat.

On the other hand, it could be perceived by some as throwing a grenade in the room before leaving for 2nd edition, and blowing it all up by tossing out a bunch of unbalanced or off-theme stuff...

Clerics of philosophies were already introduced to Pathfinder.

In the core rulebook.

In the entry for the Cleric class.

Kyra is literally pointing to the paragraph that says it.

As to the perception? Pathfinder has always been a highly unbalanced system, and off-theme material is a selling point for Pathfinder. There are space elves and laser beams and planet-hopping adventures and there are character classes for Dr. Jeckyll, Sherlock Holmes, Korra, and friggin' Batman. There's an archetype for going full-on mahou shojou, complete with glittery magic transformation sequence and cute animal mascot. Paizo gleefully throws everything into its kitchen sink fantasy while wearing its heart on its sleeve, and it is gloriously cheesy. So anyone who accuses a product of being unbalanced and off theme as if that's new really hasn't been paying attention for the last decade.

Pants off dance off.

Maybe the sphinx is bored and demands something to entertain them after the PCs leave. How the PCs solve that is up to them, but something like a big ol' pile of books could work. Or maybe they insist on something immortal to keep them company.

Or perhaps the sphinx already has a big ol' pile of books and is a total fanboy/girl of a particular author and wants their autograph. Said author may already be dead.

Arm wrestling.

Wrestling wrestling.

Is it really a problem though? After all, 4th Edition showed everyone what balanced characters looked like and PF exists because of how many people didn't like 4th Ed. ;)

Yes. Yes, it is really a problem. And your position is not remotely valid.

The problem with 4th edition is not that it is not that the classes are reasonably well balanced.

The problem with 4th edition is not that it is a bad game. Of the various iterations of Dungeons & Dragons, it is the one edition that knows exactly what it wants to be, and executes on that vision well. It is a good game that is exactly what it wants to be.

The problem with 4e is that it's not the type of game people wanted it to be. This has absolutely nothing to do with game balance, and using 4e as a means to shut down the topic of game balance is a fundamentally either dishonest or ignorant stance.

Pretty much what’s in the title. How viable would it be if the Big 6 magic items were removed from the game, similar to how it is with the automatic bonus progression, but instead of giving the PCs the bonus, they just went up against lower CR enemies?

If it is viable how low?

Maybe -1 CR every 4 or 5 levels?

This fundamentally does not work. The reason you can't just excise the magic items and scale down the challenge is why things like Big 6 and automatic bonus progression exist.

Magic items are fundamentally baked into the math of the game.

Attack bonus and hit points inherently scale with level. AC and damage, by and large, don't, or at least not to a degree sufficient to compare to the AB and HP scaling.

The issue is not that you lower the PCs level of power when you take away the magic items. It's that you've broken the math of the game.

The reason this is not an issue in 5e, or 4e (sort of), or 13th Age, or hopefully Pathfinder 2e is not that they've done away with these bonuses. They haven't. They've simply moved or modified them, such that some things don't scale as much and others actually scale with level and class abilities, but that's fundamental to the design of those games, not just ripping it out whole cloth and improvising from there.

Also, this does not hit the classes evenly, or even close. Worse, the classes most in need of help are hindered most, and the classes least in need of help are affected least. Take away the big six from a Druid or a Sorcerer and they don't particularly care. You could send them into a war zone butt naked and they're still fairly close to full efficacy. Take away the magic from a high level Fighter's gear and they are completely irrelevant compared to any caster.

We have one guy adamant about sticking with PF, he bought all the 3.5 books months before 4th edition came out and now is made that he spent all this money on PF only to have them come out with a 2nd edition.

While this is a normal emotional response to a change in something of deep personal importance, it is both irrational and unfair, and your friend needs to learn to manage his feelings. Pathfinder 1e had a ten-year run. That is an extremely long run for any roleplaying game. An update is due, and necessary in order to keep Pathfinder from going the way of RIFTS.

Robin Hood, Sherlock Holmes, Lancelot, and Conan are not twentieth level characters. Some of them might be, like, fifth.

A twentieth-level character is a CR20 monster. They are defined as being an equal to a balor or a pit fiend. They are, personally, as great a threat as a demon prince of Hell. Their personal might is relevant on a cosmic scale.

That is not Robin Hood. That is not Sherlock Holmes. That is not Lancelot. Those are much lower level characters, and that's fine. You can have big, huge, epic adventures at low levels, but when you then turn around and act like nonmagical characters should never go past those lower tiers of power, while standing next to magical characters who fundamentally alter reality, it becomes a serious team balance problem.

Even something like Hercules is maybe mid-level.

For what a coherent level 20 Fighter should look like, you're talking about some crazy, over-the-top, Exalted-style anime shenanigans. You're talking like a Roronoa Zoro, here. Like, you miss with your sword and accidentally chop down a tower a hundred feet a way, if you're talking about someone who can coherently stand side-by-side with a being who can casually stop time and summon archangels and waltz between planes and command vampire hordes.

no avatar because paizo only allows pre-generated avatars with no ability to import your own,

The selection is huge, and varied, and of reasonable quality. There are a few in more common use, but choose one of the less obvious ones and you are unlikely to find someone with the same avatar. I've yet to run into someone else using the griffon, and I've been on here for quite some time. More importantly, the avatar isn't for your sake. It's for everyone's sake so that we can keep these conversations straight more easily.

Anyone who could help you knows what Archives of Nethys is. However, as a courtesy to those you are asking for help, it is polite and expected to link the abilities in question, especially as many folks like to paraphrase and many abilities have different, similarly or even identically named game elements running around.

Also, please do not open up by strawmanning and insulting the very people you are asking for help. It is likewise bad form, and has a strong chance of chasing away people who could otherwise help you. Also, optimization exists on a spectrum. To say that a build is mechanically ineffectual and should be strongly reconsidered is not the same as saying a build fails for not being the most powerful thing ever.

1) Your question is not about the Blind condition. Your question is about the Gaze monster power. A blind individual, as the power is written, can be affected by Gaze abilities if their eyes are open and uncovered, and they are looking in the direction of the gazer. However, for all practical purposes, there is almost no reason to ever treat a blind character as if their eyes are open.

2) Various spell effects, and some environmental nonlethal effects, most notably death saves and assorted negative energy affects and ability drain/damage, but that list covers most of the things you'd roll Fortitude for. Regardless, it is not remotely worth a feat. Great Fortitude is a +2 to all Fortitude saves and doesn't require that you figure out whether or not it applies every time you roll a Fortitude save. The only part of the feat you reference that might be worth a feat is the halved need for sleep, but that's only for very specific types of games.

3) Just take Iron Will. You'll get twice the bonus without needing to know if it applies, and intimidation and feint are things you seldom need to worry about to the same extent as "all will saves."

4) I find it highly unlikely that the feat would give a +5 to most Will saves.

5) Yes, Feint can still work on blinded characters. Feinting can be more than visual. Any blind character who is not flat-footed by their blindness has some means of tracking enemy movement, and that movement can be deceptive to them the same as anyone else.

6) The abilities specify how they interact. One grants or doubles. The other grants or increases by ten. Use whichever is more favorable. And that does not mean 60'. Sensory Mastery either grants Scent at its default range of 30' or doubles it if you already have it. Blinded Blade either grants Scent at 10' or increases its range by 10' if you already have it. The most favorable is 40', which is Sensory Mastery granting you 30' scent and Blinded Blade increasing the range by 10'.

*Le shrug.*

There's tons of third party classes at least as well made as the Paizo stuff.

Raw power isn't exactly the most sincere foundation for worship.

And a Cleric of an empyreal isn't any weaker, so that's kinda moot.

Why worship the empyreal lord? Because you believe in them.

Was there no group discussion about party cohesion before someone brought a paladin?

Taking a 14 Int and spending one of three available feats on Cunning/Fast learner as a human fighter gets you 6 SP/level, starting at first level.

The rest of it just makes you a full-blown skill monkey. (Yes, Abundant Tactics + Barroom Brawler does result in Schrodinger's fighter. Unlike Paragon Surge, it's not restricted to one race.)

And if you think casters have that much disposable income, you need to try playing a full caster. Bumping up those save DCs and expanding spells/day cost just as much as a marital pays improving AC/DPR. Assuming the caster is not paying out just as much as the martial on armor. Other items, like a cloak of resistance or a CON belt, everyone pays for.

Six skill points per level is just not good. Especially since skills themselves aren't very good, and many of them are easily obviated by low-level spells. Woo, enough points to match an Int 10 Barbarian off of a worse skill list~

More importantly, I'm not pointing to Paragon Surge as some achievement or boon of the casters. It's a terrible mechanic that shouldn't be in the game at all. My point is, give it to a caster, and they're some absurd god. But giving the exact same trick to muggles and they can barely keep afloat with that. It is telling that you're saying a Fighter needs to Paragon Surge juggle just to have some trace of the flexibility they're billed as having! What's more, Paragon Surge just takes a second-level spell slot and one second-level spell known, which both become easier to spare as you level up. You could even get that spell known as a favored class bonus for some races while your Fighter is getting +1 skill rank with theirs. Or, you can offload it onto a wand or scroll. Meanwhile, the Fighter has to spend a feat to do it once a day, level 4 at the earliest, then another feat to get a second use per day at level 5. Which last a minute a pop.

You are extolling two feats to get two minutes of a worse version of a single second-level spell as something that makes the fighter flexible and viable outside of combat. If that's not damning, I don't know what is.

And what makes it all worse is... Fighter is one of the better muggles. Especially with the apology patch that is the Weapon/Armor Master's Handbooks. Brawler stands about equal and the Barbarian and Slayer are a cut above, but you've still got the Rogue, Monk, Ninja, Cavalier, Samurai, Swashbuckler, Vigilante.

Now, as to disposable income? First, there are nine ninth-level casters in this game. Only three of them- the Wizard, Witch, and Arcanist- have to pay for spells. An even smaller portion of the sixth-level casters have to pay for spells.

Second, no. No, scribing spells to your spellbook does not cost nearly as much as the magic weapon/armor treadmill unless one of two things happens. Either you try and scribe ALL OF THE SPELLS, which is a colossal waste of money, or the GM is actively going after the spellbook/familiar and you need to make backups or replace familiars. In this case, the GM is not playing fairly, unless they are also going after the Fighter's magic sword, equally without recompense in terms of wealth by level. That is also a terrible idea, since destroying expensive permanent items essential to character performance without compensating wealth breaks the design assumptions of the game.

But no, maintaining a fat spellbook/familiar is not expensive relative to magic weapons/armor, even setting aside the fact that most casters don't need it. And I know. I've played more than my share of Batman witches and wizards. Yes, the Wizard wants the stat boosting items and the save-boosting items that everyone else wants, but again, everyone else wants those. For the Fighter, it's in addition to the weapon/armor treadmill, and the magic items they need to not be completely pigeonholed.

This idea that the Fighter is somehow "less than stellar" doesnt mmatch how I have see the fighter player, or how the Developers own games are played. Perhaps the Fighter being less that steller in your games is the outlier then?

Few spells are insta kills. Most likely you have a "save or suck" in which case, it is the fighters job to kill the now sucky monster.

Umm, no, that's usually bad tactics. What is good tactics is for one member to delay or hold off three foes, while three party members quickly finish one foe at a time.

The classic wizard is the Treatmonk "God wizard" who most specifically does not "win the combat" he instead "provides the
tools for the rest of the party to win, by "controlling reality""

And of course, buffing can and often should go on before the combat and/or will include the entire party. Haste for example.

You don't need insta-kill spells.

You have tons of spells that remove the enemy from ability to be a meaningful threat, either by denying them the mobility to reach the fight in a meaningful length of time or denying them the ability to act as they choose. If you are in a four-person party and spend one round's actions to deny half the enemy the ability to engage for two rounds, you've done an entire party's worth of work in terms of action economy.

There's not just save-or-die and save-or-suck. There's save-or-lose.

The quote you give is something of a PR piece to the Batman-style Wizard. It implies something not-quite true.

It implies that killing the enemy is winning the fight.

In reality, for all practical purposes, the fight is won long before the last HP is gone. The fight is decided in the first couple of rounds, and the rest is just cleanup.

Part of a mage's job is providing tools, but a larger part is denying them to the enemies. When the enemy has been effectively neutralized as a threat, DPR and where the damage is coming from become largely academic questions because the fight's already won and the Fighter didn't even show up. They get the glory shot of killing strokes, but that's not influencing the outcome of the fight that was won two rounds ago.

What's more, most two thirds or full casters are legitimate martial powers of their own if they so choose to be.

Of those nine ninth-level casters and twelve sixth-level casters, not counting unchained and archetypes?

Two of the ninth-level casters, the Cleric and Druid, are classic unstoppable wrecking balls of martial madness that is CoDzilla if you choose to build that way. The Oracle and Shaman aren't difficult to turn into CoDzilla, either.

And the sixth-level casters? Literally all of them either are or can easily be turned into legitimate martial forces to be reckoned with, possibly excepting the Mesmerist. In some cases, mainly the Summoner, this is by proxy, but that eidolon is one of their main class features. So it's not like by being a mage, you're sacrificing martial ability. In a lot of cases, you're way better at it than the dedicated martial characters.

What happens in play much of the time is the casters will choose as a courtesy to be bad at mixing it up in close quarters, but when you're building around design flaws like that, there's a design flaw to be built around.

Dude, you're the GM, and it's an artifact. You're allowed to make stuff up in this game of make believe. The rules of the game explicitly empower you to do so.

normal summoner was on t1 right below wizard, cleric and sorcerer, unchained summoner is down at t3 somewhere in the middle unchained summoner is nowhere near any of the t1 classes.

Normal Summoner was not remotely a tier one class. It never had the nigh limitless diversity that defines tier one. The eidolon is a ball of numbers that, while nice, is not any amount of diversity that can elevate a 6th-level spontaneous caster anywhere near tier one.

Unchained Summoner brought some things in line, but didn't alter the root of what makes Summoner highly potent at what it does with a moderate amount of flexibility on the side. It went from tier 2 to tier 2. Just lower within the tier. Still the most powerful sixth-level caster in the game, and the only one that can hang with any of the ninth-level casters. Namely, the spontaneous ones, like I said.

And even if it had landed in the middle of tier 3, that would just mean the "neutered" version is on a level of performance alongside the most reasonably balanced classes in the game.

One of the issues with a 3PP producing some sort of 3.875 is, most of the 3PPs worth carrying it on realize the problems ingrained in 3.X that were never addressed and in order to make a product they can stand behind would by necessity have to make a product that is not 3.875.

But that is itself a violation of a good alignment. As for the rest, a paladin is required to balance law and good. As you yourself said, if faced with an Evil law, a paladin tries to CHANGE the law, not ignore, change, implicitly by lawful means. What is Good takes precedence, but doesn't ignore the law. As for whether or not the lynching was legit, if it was it would be called a hanging, and mobs wouldn't be involved. If you are in a state of mob justice, you're not exactly going about things legally. Mendev is in a tricky spot, because it's essentially frontier territory, where the Queen's law doesn't really extend beyond her capital. Had the priest actually been going to be lynched for a reason beyond "cleric of Asmodeus, I would agree that the mob was in the right. As is, they aren't.

Doing something that is not necessarily good is not the same as willfully performing an evil act.

As to the response to an evil law or leader? That's a very personal question to the individual. But revolution is not out of the question. After all, paladins don't fall for committing chaotic acts.

There is no singular "right" way to play a paladin.

unfortunately edolon is not a playable class

But we all know which class gets the eidolon, so there's no need to get smug in such pedantry, thank you.

The main thing that stuck out to me was that they're going to actively design it to make your life more difficult if you don't want to play on Golarion.

That sentence seems like a gross misrepresentation of something that needs more explanation.

she should have based on raw a raw that i chuck right out the window when anyone plays a paladin because paladins by raw can not function and have some of the dumbest restrictions in the game. also anyone who self proclaims them selves as vitreous and then goes around killing thing is both dilutional and a hypocrite you cant be a being of virtue and be a murder hobo.

Murder hobos kill, but killing at all does not a murder hobo make.

Nearly every society on Earth has among its foundational lore some version of the virtuous warrior who fights and slays evildoers. This is fantasy; that is the narrative the paladin explicitly draws on.

There are contradictions baked in the rules, and there are contradictions introduced through interpretation.

You are interpreting the rules of the game wrong.

Conveniently, as we are playing a game, the all killing is evil must be an incorrect interpretation in the context of the game when there is an entire class built around being a paragon of virtue who kills things with swords. (Or what have you.) Sure, there are nonlethal options, but they are not the expectation, and certainly not what the iconic is depicted as using. We get plenty of art of Seelah slaying things with that sword, yet she's not fallen, therefore "all killing is evil" must be an incorrect interpretation of the definition of "evil" used in Pathfinder.

The paladin code is a friend and a guide. Not a trap to nefariously lure unsuspecting PCs into.

The paladin helped save an old man. That's an appropriate thing for a paladin to do.

Going to Hell is not necessarily a bad thing in this cosmology. A sufficiently powerful soul can gain great power within Hell and roll that right back into lasting temporal power, entering an eternal power struggle instead of facing eternal torment.

Deities have different aspects, and most of the evil deities have a more palatable aspect that can be focused on.

Honestly, the only useful advice to be given boils down to this.

5 most powerful characters?

Mordenkainen
Elminster
Raistlin
Karsus
Nethys

The greatest mistake wizards make is to think they can change the world.
The greatest mistake the gods make is to let a few of them get away with it.

You left off Vecna.

"How" is a simple question. One bad roll is all it takes.

This isn't an interesting character quirk. It's annoying accounting. Either handwave the encumbrance and keep in mind it's super low, or just let it be a sane number. A 3 in anything is just absurd.

Carry a Scroll of Teleport.

Killing an evil person is not, in and of itself, a good act. That leads to the serial killer paladins slaughtering productive law-abiding citizens because they ping on evildar for having selfish motivations.

Anyways, once you've incapacitated an enemy, why do you even need to kill them? It's fine to take prisoners, or even let folks go. Genocide is not a productive route to heroism.

The worst trait a tank can have is if you care if they die.

You care if a Paladin dies.

You don't care if the Cleric's castings of Summon Monster die.

This is basically coming down to, "Fighters suck less if you use a different version of Paragon Surge juggling to exploit unintended consequences," when Paragon Surge juggling is an absolutely broken trick for Sorcerers that's pretty much always banned, yet still doesn't manage to make Fighters actually good at doing things.

Saitama is what happens when a player doesn't realize what power level caps are.