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Squark wrote:

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Trip.H wrote:

Staves becoming Invested items will change every single user of that item group that's already at max investiture.

This actually kinda sucks, as my PCs take archetype casting and use low level staves for utility. One little Alchemist is super fond of her Librarian's staff, and twice during APs the ability to take 10 min to use it's ability to quickly store a mini-library in the thing to read later has been super useful.

After this change, the decision to use/invest in a staff is as big a cost as for any of the evergreen passive items, like boots for +5 move spd.

I cannot afford to sacrifice some meaningful combat potential for the sake of a flavor item like the Librarian Staff. Sucks, but it is what it is.

Whoa I missed that! I don't think thats actually what it means though. The rule that was changed itself doesn't mention staves or give them the Invested trait.

The part that mentions staves is an explanation, which itself seems wrong because nothing in the rules after this change says that staves are invested that I can find. Is there some other part I'm missing?

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Page 219: The text on investing items didn’t allow for items that are invested but not worn, such as staves. Change the first two sentences to “Certain magic items convey their magical benefits only when invested using the Invest an Item activity, tying them to the PC’s inner potential. These items have the invested trait, and most are worn items.”

Hmm... Nothing in this says something like, "Staves gain the Invested trait" or "When you prepare a staff, you also invest..."

I think staves were used as an example because the writer misremembered and though they had the trait. I do not belive the intent was to add the invested trait to staves, or they would have been more explicit.

I brought it up to a friend, who thinks that this is actually a little addition made because there is...

Yeah, I sure hope staves aren't becoming invested. They were already limited by special rules on their preparation, becoming invested would be a big nerf. Here's hoping, anyway.

-sigh- I don't know, this just feels very strange to me. Why not simply allow it to be hemispherical? It always has been in the past. A fully upright 20-foot diameter sphere in the middle of the battlefield looks really odd, especially considering it can't quite touch the ground. It reduces the area that can be protected by the sphere at ground-level where most combat takes place. It would make a lot more sense if walls/floors and such were not considered objects, but I'm not sure how they could be described as anything but. It seems an awful lot of inconvenience for 8th/9th level spells, powerful though they may be.

And again, there's the issue of Chromatic Wall. Prismatic Wall is undoubtedly a more powerful version of this spell, why introduce this limitation now? It feels like a mistake to me. I realize PF2 will be different than PF1, but the spell seems player-hostile in how difficult it is to use.

I disagree - castable with 3 actions suggests using it in combat is perfectly reasonable. Also, the 'corner of your space' 10 feet in the air? Is your space 10 feet tall? Is it not a 5-foot square? If you cast Prismatic Sphere 10 feet in the air, the only square that is fully inside of it on the ground is your own (And not even entirely, for if it touches the ground, it poofs). Far from 'protecting an area', you could barely stand inside it. This is very different from every other interpretation of Prismatic Sphere ever seen before. Doesn't seem likely. It also sidesteps the issue of placement. Must all Prismatic Wall hallways be exactly these dimensions? The Elemental bloodline gets this spell as a bloodline spell, but unless they own some kind of structure purpose-built for this spell, it's nigh-useless to them.

The text of Prismatic Wall states:

You create an opaque wall of shimmering, multicolored light. The wall is straight and vertical, stretching 60 feet long and 30 feet high. You must form the wall in an unbroken open space so its edges don't pass through any creatures or objects, or the spell is lost.

I had a question about this... isn't this kind of unusable? It requires a space that is 60 feet wide and 30 feet high, meaning it can't be used indoors in the vast majority of indoor spaces or the edges would brush up against some wall or ceiling or another, which I can't imagine is anything other than 'an object'. I'm really struggling to see how you could use this well given how enormous and unwieldy it is. I rarely see battles where there is that much open space with no objects whatsoever. Since you can't shrink the wall to fit, and can't reshape it (that would kind of step on the toes of the Prismatic Sphere spell one spell level up) it seems nearly unusable. It would either be impossible to place or fairly simple to go around/over/underneath. Similarly, Prismatic Sphere shares the same issue. If you're standing on the ground, the spell fails. Are the ground and walls and ceiling not considered objects? There's no definition that I am aware of for what exactly constitutes an 'object'. Am I missing something?

EDIT: It also seems strange considering a very similar spell, Chromatic Wall, does not break the wall on objects, only on creatures.

Hey, I've recently bought Hellknight Hill, the first book in Age of Ashes, but now that I've decided I wanna continue the series, my attempt to buy the second book Cult of Cinders isn't working.

I buy in PDF format, and when I try to add the item to my cart, it simply says "Your request produced an error." I tried several times, then tried other books in the AP and other APs from 1st edition, then even some Starfinder stuff. Seems I can't add anything from the store to my cart.

Wondering if this is some kind of maintenance on your end or something wrong that I'm doing.

Thanks for your time.