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Never said entering their square, merging with the host is what I said, as the quoted text states a ghost does. how does a ghost do it then? They don't have any ability listed that allows it, but the incorporeal possession says a ghost can.


The Incorporeal Possession states that ghosts can possess someone.
None of the ghost creature entries state this ability.

Source PZO9446H:
Possession occurs when one creature, the possessor, forcibly displaces or overrides the consciousness of another creature, the host, with its own. True possession occurs only when a possessor gains direct control over another creature’s body. Effects that allow a creature to merely commandeer another being’s mind (such as dominate monster) aren’t true possession effects. Two general types of true possession exist: spell possession and incorporeal possession. Magic jar and possession are both examples of spell possession, magic that allows the caster to detach her soul from her body and invade her host’s body with it. In such cases, the caster’s body is often left behind—a glaring vulnerability for the possessor’s enemies to exploit. Incorporeal possession occurs when a creature without a physical body (such as a ghost or shadow demon) merges with the body of its host. In this event, the possessor leaves no trace of itself behind for foes to target.

Does an incorporeal creature (a ghost and similar), being a disembodied soul, get to take over a host simply by merging into it?


Not being a physical creature anymore, do they need to eat? If so, how?


From Occult adventures:

"True possession is when a creature displaces or overrides
the target’s consciousness with its own, establishing
direct control over the target’s body. "

"Incorporeal Possession: Ghosts, shadow demons,
and similar creatures do not possess physical bodies—
they are simply disembodied souls. They use the rules
below to govern the interaction between their mental
characteristics and their hosts’ physical forms. Such a
creature merges with the host’s body and is unharmed
when ejected. Creatures that use magic jar can often use
the new possession spell instead"

Does any Incorporeal creature get to do this?
How does it work?
Just invade their body?


Why do you people keep thinking I'm taking about the spell?
Please. Read what I wrote, read the rules and guidelines again. Come back with more insight.
I'm not trying to be rude, but i am asking about crafting here not the spell. Your statements have fallacies in them showing you are not as familiar with the rules and guidelines as you think.
I'm not mad at you, or trying to be rude, but these are advanced knowledge questions.
One or two of which most likely cannot be answered by anyone short of the dev team. (Aka Question 1)

Please don't take this message wrong, but I'm looking for an answer that is correct, or at the very least makes sense.


Hoping someone today can help.


Meirril wrote:

1) You didn't build the animated chair, you cast a spell on it.

2) You can cast Animate Object on an unfinished construct and it will have exactly the stats the spell gives it and nothing more. You want the construct to have special properties or abilities, pay for them with gold and time as indicated in the rules. No short cuts.

3a) No. Refer to Craft Construct and specific construct creature monster entries to see what you are allowed to do.

3b) No. Just what the spell says.

3c) By paying additional gold and time and meeting the new DC check? Sure. If the construct could add those abilities when constructed. You can't animate an object and then start trying to improve it.

3d) Follow the rules given under Craft Construct if you are crafting a construct, or whatever spell or ability you are using. Do not attempt to mix rules from one method to another.

Sorry but you must not be familiar with Craft Construct, or animated objects (beyond those of the spell)

I did say this was an advanced question.
Please read this and familiarize yourself with crafting animated objects.
Building and Modifying Constructs
Animated Object


(Not sure if bumping is allowed)

Can anyone help me?


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A few issues arose today.

1: The wording of "Building New Constructs"
Is this newly built constructs, or newly designed. Is a freshly animated chair a new construct because it was just created? Or is it not a new construct because animated chair already exist?

2: Animated objects are constructs, and as such they can have extra special abilities crafted into them, beyond the SQ Construction Points. True? False?

3: There is a guideline showing you can add special abilities to constructs at the cost of increased CR.

3a: Are these the spoken of special abilities?
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rule s

3b: Can I apply those to an animated object, since it is a Construct, by increasing the CR?

3c: Can I upgrade an already built construct with these special abilities?

3d: Can I apply SQ Construction Points to any construct? Would they gain CP based on size, or just the standard +2 CP per +1 CR?

(I understand some abilities shouldn't be applied, I'm not trying to be OP I'm just trying to make unique constructs the way the rules/guidelines state.)

Also what of templates and subtypes? What do they cost? I've seen the pre-constructed animated objects have such things added using CP.