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Creative Munchkin wrote:

I don't see a quote.

There is one here.

Here
Here
And here.

Sorry, but nope. None of those show any relevant proof.

The one they retracted?

Only because people b&++#ed about it. And why does it matter that they retracted it? They could not have retracted it. And then your definition of "right" would be irrelevant.

It's not in accordance with the rules, so it's either a house-rule or cheating.

You have yet to show me proof how it is not allowed by the rules.

But thank you for letting us know what you think of your DM...

I think very highly of my DM. This doesn't concern him, because he's not stupid and unimaginative. He showed me this trick with a potted plant.

...wherever there are plants in that radius, yes.

And there are. That's why the Druid tossed a pot with them. Geez.

No, the RAW does not say that the plants expand or are created. It just says that any plants present entangle any creatures in the presence of the plants. It's not rocket science.

If the spell would care where EXACTLY are plants on the ground it would say so. You're just adding rules to the spell that aren't there.

make personal attacks (stupid and unimaginative for not agreeing with you)

Yup. That was targeted at all of you. you found me out. /sarcasm

Creative Munchkin wrote:

Azten wrote:

Oh, and cheating is cheating, no matter what you call it.

Except when it's not.

Except it is when you are doing things with a spell that the spell does not allow.

Quote the part of the spell that says "You can't do that".

Oh, and cheating is cheating, no matter what you call it.

Except when it's not.

For a definition of 'right' as being 'that which is clearly supported by the rules as written and as interpreted by the vast majority' it is.

I present to you Flurry of Blows and the recent "clarification".

Indeed. A creative druid will use some of his other spells in situations where his environmentally dependent spells fail. An unimaginative and unscrupulous druid-player will try and cheat and call it clever, because cheats always think they are being clever.

Except in no way is that cheating. The word you're searching for is "outsmarting a stupid and unimaginative DM".

...and we are back at the: "If it creates plants, why do you need a pot-plant?" argument, which you have yet to satisfactorily answer.

Because it says so in the spell description. Duh.

This spell causes tall grass, weeds, and other plants to wrap around creatures in the area of effect or those that enter the area.

There is a plant. The Druid casts Entangle and it entangles a 40 ft. radius.

If you are saying that the RAW suggests a small potted plant will cover the entire AoE, um no.

Um, yes. The spell requires there to be plants. There are plants. The spell works as per RAW, 40 ft. radius of entangling plants.

Er, still you I'm afraid.

Care to show your evidence? Some statistics?

In 34 years I have played with some pretty creative people, and I can't think of one group I have played with in all this time who wouldn't laugh at the stupidity of anyone trying this, or even seriously thinking it was possible.

Well, in 120 years I have played with many different people and not even one was against that trick, so...

There is nothing to interpret though.

The spell specifically says:

Area: plants in a 40-ft.-radius spread

If you cast that on an area of forest, there are going plants in every square of that 40ft radius spread

If you cast that on an area of Concrete with a potted plant in the middle, there is going to be ONE plant in that 40ft radius spread.

In example one, all those plants can entangle

In example two, only one plant can entangle.

nowhere in the spell does it say the area is limited to the number of plants.

Your stance is completely unsupported by the facts, and completely unsupported by any reasonable interpretation of said facts.

Your interpretation isn't the only right one.

The druid just happens to be a highly environment-dependent class.

And for a smart Druid that's not a problem.

The spell says plants in a 40ft radius

Yes, it creates plants in 40 ft. radius.

The spell says 40 ft. radius.

Step out of your close-minded group, then you'll see who's a minority. This is the first time I see someone not allowing a plant to be used for Entangle. Not realizing it can be done, sure. But specifically not allowing? Never.

That is from under Aiming a Spell in the Area of Effect section. This explains more clearly why the plant idea and ImperatorK's concept is just wrong all around.

I don't see which part is even relevant here.

Take Antagonize.

Nice item. Will save me 3 feats, Persistent Spell (3.5 version), Extend Spell and Divine Metamagic. And in contrast to Divine Metamagic, I can persist spells of ANY level. Sweet! :D

Pathfinder has problems? Who would have known!

Lol. Just what I needed. :D

Wow, people. If you don't like creativity why don't you play a video game instead of an RPG? But avoid Minecraft, it will blow your mind.