Each level, your character gains a number of skill ranks dependent upon your class plus your Intelligence modifier.
Ok. I've got that, but...
Each character begins play with a single favored class of his choosing—typically, this is the same class as the one he chooses at 1st level. Whenever a character gains a level in his favored class, he receives either + 1 hit point or + 1 skill rank.
Now, is the possible + 1 skill rank for a level in one's favored class in addition to the previously mentioned level/Intelligence modifier skill ranks? If that IS the case, then I could feasibly pick Fighter at 1st level as my favored class, never pick another class except fighter, and I could still get that additional skill rank each time I gained a level of Fighter? Also, would that favored class + 1 skill rank apply at 1st level?
For example, say I've got a human first level Fighter with an Intelligence score of 12, and I pick Fighter at first level as my favored class, I could feasibly get 5 skill points per level, correct?
2 for Fighter base.
Sorry for repeating myself. I'm getting back into the game after at least a two year absence and I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.
From the Core Rulebook...
"Upon reaching 4th level, and every four levels
So by my reading this means that a fighter can choose to replace a previously learned BONUS feat in exchange for a bonus feat being gained at levels 4, 8, 12 and so on. Now the fighter doesn't replace and old bonus feat AND learn a new one for that level as well, correct?
@Zark: As far as the Charisma goes, I'm playing this guy more or less as one step out of the Orc tribe that raised him, and not much more charismatic than a beast himself. I'll check with my GM on Manyshot.
@ Mysterious Stranger: Ah! That's what it was. I didn't know where you had put the +2 so I didn't include that in my figuring. As far as your final statement aboux Dexterity, if I didn't have a Dexterity booting item though, I would still have that bonus. Even if I did, anything above a +1 item would be useless much the same, correct?
@Father Dale: So what do you think would be an acceptable WIsdom score? You comment about Intelligence is exactly the reason I took a 12! :) We're starting at 3rd, so the timing of my choosing Power Attack and Quickdraw doesn't really matter. That's just the order I wrote them in. I haven't looked at the Spirit Ranger, but that does sound interesting. Primary melee weapon? Most likely either Greataxe (for flavor) or Falchion (for the crits). Honestly, I hadn't thought about carrying a shield/one hander. Thanks for pointing that out. Remember, Intimidation is a social skill! :)
@Mysterious Stranger: The order of those first three Feat choices isn't really relevant with us actually starting at 3rd level, so my selections at this point are basically simultaaneous. The Quickdraw would enable me to ready my melee weapon as a free action once enemies close, the basic intent of a switch hitter.
Your ability scores suggest concentrating on Strength much like an earlier post, and I see both of your points. However, unless I've added my numbers wrong, yours is a 31 point build.
I've pretty much settled on leaving the spell casting ability intact for the reasons listed above.
The wolf is most definitely my choice for an animal companion. Iconic on it's own, and especially so with a half-orc.
@Kenderkin: In regards to Precise Strike, I may look into that for a later feat selection once the group gets going and I can plan it out with one of our melee players.
@Deadmanwalking: So you're suggesting starting out with something more like Strength: 18, Dexterity: 14, Constitution: 15, Intelligence: 12, Wisdom: 14, Charisma: 7, boosting Constitution at 4th and then putting the rest into Strength? (I was going to raise Dexterity at 4, Constitution at 8, Wisdom at 12 [still keeping up with spell access], and Strength at 16 and 20.).
I'm looking at playing a half-orc switch hitter ranger (as per Treantmonk's Guide). I realize a human is perhaps the optimal race for this build, but I simply have a love of half-orcs.
25pt build, starting at 3rd level
Strength 18 (includes +2)
Feats (starting at 3rd, so order for 1 & 3 don't really matter)
Opinions? Suggestions? Everything else will pretty well follow Treantmonk's guide. I was looking at maybe taking the Skirmisher from the APG, but I've never played a caster before, and figured that even what little spell ability a ranger has could be fun.
First and foremost, thank you Treantmonk for the excellent work on the guide.
I'm looking at playing a half-orc switch hitter ranger. I realize a human is perhaps the optimal race for this build, but I simply have a love of half-orcs.
25pt build, starting at 3rd level
Strength 18 (includes +2)
Opinions? Suggestions? Everything else will pretty well follow the guide. I was possibly going to take the Skirmisher, but I've never played a caster before, and figured that even what little spell ability a ranger has could be fun.
I'd really like to go ahead and take the plunge and play a full on caster, but do you think one of the "hybrid" casters (ranger...paladin...inquisitor...etc come to mind) first? Seems like if I'm going to play a caster, it would be easier/better to go ahead and go full caster and not have to worry about feats, etc. to try to keep my melee ability up. Seems simpler that way.
25 point build. He'll either be human or half-orc, so there's the + 2 to deal with. I would very much appreciate suggestions on how to place the stats for both a melee build and a caster build. I think I MAY have it down ok for a caster build...
If you think this needs tweaking for a caster cleric, please let me know, and how you'd suggest going about it. Melee builds...I just can't make up my mind how to place them for an effective melee cleric. Any help you could give me will be very much appreciated. Only one other time have I played a character that wasn't a fighter or barbarian (All D&D. I'm new to Pathfinder). I just felt it was time to branch out a bit and I want to get it right. I'd ask for help with the feats as well, but my GM has his own home brew pantheon of gods and has yet to tell me what their domains are (I expect that to be done tomorrow when we actually get together). Thanks in advance!
Ok folks. Looking at the Holy Vindicator prestige class, and I see this...
"At the indicated levels, a vindicator gains new spells per day as if he had also gained a level in a divine spellcasting class he belonged to before adding the
"The vindicator’s class level stacks with levels in any other class that grants the channel energy ability."
So if I am a cleric and I take ONE level of Holy Vindicator, am I really losing a whole lot? As far as I can tell, the only things I may be losing are some granted domain powers that would require 20 levels of cleric, and even that would depend on which domain I took.
Starting to lean towards the human cleric now. First, there's the bonus feat...'Nuff said. Then of course the Skilled racial trait and/or the Favored Class bonus could help me with skill points and allow me to lover Intelligence to apply the point to other things. With a more support oriented cleric, I'd use that last set of ability scores I posted...
Put one ability increase into Charisma and the other four into Wisdom.
Any other suggestons on this part? Also, anyone have any suggestions for feats?
Not arguing here, but simply offering my explanations.
He wouldn't fall behined the curve as far as gaining access to the higher level spells. With the starting Wisdom of 15, he'd be able to cast everything up to 5th level spells. By the time he got to 11th level and had access to 6th level spells, he's had two ability increases, taking his Wisdom to 17, giving him acess to up to 7th level spells. Following this same pattern of putting all his ability increases into Wisdom, he stays ahead of the spell access curve. He DOES fall behind a bit in bonus spells per level, and ultimately without 20 full levels of cleric misses out on two slots to his spell total, and some of the other assorted increases that come with that final level.
I see the character mostly as a support character, primarily with spells. I know he can't do everything, but I also don't want him to take a full fledged hit to anything he does, so taking an ability below 10 is not something I want to do.
Our GM uses a home brewed list of deities. The closest Pathfinder versions of the gods I'm considering are Torag, Desna, Cayden Cailean, and Pharasma. Wide variation there I know, but still deciding. Personality...I suppose that would largely be influenced by which god I decide on, his personality more or less fitting the god.
He's going to be either a human, half-elf or a half-orc, adding the +2 ability score bonus to Wisdom [already figured in] regardless. 25 point build, starting at 2nd level.
I was likely going to start him out with a level of fighter for the weapon and armor proficiencies and the feats (especially with a human) and then going straight cleric from there. Would this be a wise choice? I'm new to clerics so would not getting that 20th level of cleric be a big loss overall?
Honestly, except for perhaps the drow and drow noble, I don't see a big jump in balance between those races I previously listed and the "core" races. Almost all of them have some sort of darwback/weakness that helps offset any sort of power spike, and the ones that don't REALLY aren't all that much more than your standard races.
I haven't seen anyone pick up on this quote from the op...
"In addition he takes a -2 to charisma b/c he is a half orc."
So you obviously have a house rule that gives this penalty to a half-orc (It's not in the Core Rulebook), and yet tou're kind of complaining about a half-orc taking a low Charisma? I don't know, maybe...don't give them this hit to their Charisma right off the bat?
Thanks for the advice so far, folks! As silly as it may seem, what I'm wanting to do is strictly use the fighter bonus feats for his combat skill and use the standard feat selections for the more...mundane things, like skill bonuses...saving throw bonuses...etc. Seems kind of silly and I know I will be behind the curve in some respects with combat, but I just wanted to do something a little different and make this fighter more than just "Hulk smash!". Keep 'em comin'! :)
Starting with the fighter class presented in the Core Rulebook and using only the bonus fighter feats (not using the standard lvl 1,3,5, etc. ones that everyone gets) could you suggest some builds for both a two-handed weapon fighter and a sword and board fighter? Starting stats are as follows: Str: 19, Dex: 13, Con: 15, Int: 10, Wis: 12, Cha: 10.
Getting ready to play a half-orc character. Charisma-wise, I'm playing him as a generally friendly person. Not someone who would inspire you enough that he could lead you through the gates of Hell or anything like that, but someone you probably wouldn't mind having a beer and making friends with. Number-wise, somewhere in the 10-11 range, so not really special, but not a pariah either. Now that's all related to his personality. Then there's his looks... I'm going to be taking the Beastial trait from the Advanced Player’s Guide (p. 19). Should that have enough of an effect on his Charisma to knock him below that 10-11 range? I know there's no rule covering it, but since the book definition of Charisma mentions a character's appearance, I thought I'd ask for opinions.
If you have a min/max player in the group, he's going to have one or more dump stats, period. His roleplay should reflect this, as should his combat role. The mental stats are obvious. If the min/max bottoms out charisma like so many seem to do, then he shouldn't be good in social situations no matter how well the player could potentially roleplay. If a character bottoms out strength, he shouldn't be able to hit as hard. If they bottom out, dex, the shouldn't be able to hit as skillfully. Power gamers shouldn't be rewarded in rp situations.
There is plenty of leeway in how to make one of a class different from another. Feats. Alternate class types aside from the core ones. Certain classes are going to be able to do certain things better than other classes as well. A player has plenty of choices to find a fit for what he wants to play.
I don't think that orcs would be very tolerant of homosexuality at all. Male orc + female mate = offspring = more offspring = more status, power and prestige. I would think that in a same sex relationship between two male orcs that the less dominant of the pairing would be seen as weak anyway, perhaps even seen a "property", the same way female orcs are seen, and the more dominant male, since his sex with his partner wouldn't produce offspring, would be seen as dishonoring his people since he wasn't producing more warriors or breeding stock. And before everyone starts flaming me, please remember that these are NOT my opinions, but the way I see orcs thinking!
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