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Gilfalas wrote: Derek Vande Brake wrote: Anthrax isn't such a problem for me. I once played with a guy who similarly had trouble with names. He went for a while with a character named Rutabaga. Tell your player to name his horse Bucephalus. That sounds diseasy AND fantasy. Then have him look it up in Wikipedia. Yes but could one cast a light spell on old 'phalus?
... i'll go now...
Mustin' make double entendres!
Gauss wrote:
Alexandrina is correct: A Large Rapier loses its weapon finesse abilities in the hands of a Medium character. Even quoted the feat's text on the subject. Thus, for the purposes of Weapon Finesse you are limited to weapons of the proper size category.
- Gauss The feat does seem VERY clear. But you guys seem more familiar with it than I am.
Phasics wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Quote: Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls. Does titan mauler or some other feat allow you to use a large weapons with weapon finesse? or did I misread something in the above posts? Kinda, it was mentioned that using an oversized light weapon could be used with weapon finesse which is a grey area.
of course you could use an elven curve blade which is two handed with weapon finesse in one hand with titan mauler Huh interesting. Well if you are going to do that don't choose the rapier! 1d6 weapons get the smallest percentage bump of any going up a size from Medium to Large. (Long story!)

Gorbacz wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Devil's Advocate wrote: Alexandrina wrote: If *I* may play devil's advocate for a moment. Some of the greatest works of art ever created were created before the concept of Intellectual Property was developed. They were also created in an age when it took months to copy a book and was virtually impossible to copy a painting. Impossible to copy a masterwork perhaps, but from what I could tell there was no shortage of artists in that time period. And hell, how long did it take to copy sheet music?
I think we need IP laws for sure, people who create content need to have sole financial benefit from that content, or invention for a reasonable period of time (Current stuff isn't reasonable, but thats another discussion) I really do believe that it can help encourage innovation. But I don't buy the idea that in a world devoid of IP law the creative output goes down to nil, or even close to it. I'm sure academic output would hit zero the moment copyright would be abolished. =) I also am sure of that.
Devil's Advocate wrote: Alexandrina wrote: If *I* may play devil's advocate for a moment. Some of the greatest works of art ever created were created before the concept of Intellectual Property was developed. They were also created in an age when it took months to copy a book and was virtually impossible to copy a painting. Impossible to copy a masterwork perhaps, but from what I could tell there was no shortage of artists in that time period. And hell, how long did it take to copy sheet music?
I think we need IP laws for sure, people who create content need to have sole financial benefit from that content, or invention for a reasonable period of time (Current stuff isn't reasonable, but thats another discussion) I really do believe that it can help encourage innovation. But I don't buy the idea that in a world devoid of IP law the creative output goes down to nil, or even close to it.
Quote: Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls. Does titan mauler or some other feat allow you to use a large weapons with weapon finesse? or did I misread something in the above posts?
Herbo wrote: Just because I've rarely had pro-sharacy people agree with me before...I just wanted to be clear that I'm contending that we can avoid piracy by not doing it ourselves, and encouraging our dear ones not to either.
And then redirecting that effort into creating a rail gun made of peasants.
And then pooping in Alexandria's shoes.
points two and three might occur in either order or simultaneously
I really prefer my shoes poop-free. As a general rule anyways.

Devil's Advocate wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Gary Teter wrote: "Pirates gonna pirate" doesn't actually have to be the reality. As a society we get to choose what behaviors we'll accept and which we won't. Just because something happens "on the internet" doesn't put it beyond the bounds of what's generally agreed upon to be acceptable. Alright, fair enough. How do we enforce it as a society then? That's easy. Just abolish copyrights and declare all IP public domain.
No more pirates. No more incentives for talented content producers to produce serious content. Just webpages of amateur photos, demotivational posters, and crappy YouTube videos as far as the eye can see. Internet memes and flame wars supplanting all of film and literature, as memes and flame wars are the easiest forms of entertainment to consistently generate and distribute for free. If *I* may play devil's advocate for a moment. Some of the greatest works of art ever created were created before the concept of Intellectual Property was developed.
Herbo wrote: We don't need laws to regulate internet piracy. We need people to regulate themselves and influence the people they come into contact with. That's the idea behind any grass roots movement to change a dominant paradigm.
As the peasant railgun scenario shows...there is a lot we can do if we break our actions down to us and the people on either side of us in one round of combat.
Justifying piracy as some sort of legit punkrock move against crappy copyright legislation is sorta goofy. It's like having a sore foot and then crapping in your best friend's Nikes in retaliation to the foot that hath caused you so much pain.
I like this and I fully agree with you.

Marc Radle wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Gary Teter wrote: "Pirates gonna pirate" doesn't actually have to be the reality. As a society we get to choose what behaviors we'll accept and which we won't. Just because something happens "on the internet" doesn't put it beyond the bounds of what's generally agreed upon to be acceptable. Alright, fair enough. How do we enforce it as a society then? Statements like "pirates gonna pirate" really bug me. What, just because one chunk of society does something wrong, we throw our hands in the air and say "Hey, what are you gonna do?"
Do statements like "thieves gonna steal" or "murders gonna murder" or "rapists gonna rape" sound OK to you? I hope not. I'm certainly not comparing digital piracy to rape and murder, but digital piracy IS a crime and it DOES have a negative impact on people. Like any crime, you do whatever you can to deter those that elect to pursue the crime.
You don't say, "murders gonna murder - nothin we can do about it ... just don't get too close to your loved ones, I guess" do you???
Sorry, this whole "hey man, digital piracy isn't a crime - it's my right to do what I want - it don't hurt nobody ..." argument some people have is really tiresome. So then your solution to end 'piracy' would be?
Also you just compared right clicking a digital file, choosing 'copy'. And then right clicking your desktop and clicking "paste" with out deleting the original first and/or with intent to give to someone else to Rape and Murder. I have no words.
David knott 242 wrote:
3. Spells that involve touching are pretty hard to hide. You touch somebody, and then something bad happens to them -- how can they not suspect that you just cast a spell on them?
Depends on what happens and the context I suppose. Most real life pick pockets work exactly this way. Of course if in a fight you touch someone in the face and their face starts to melt thats going to be hard to hide. But a friendly pat on the back and suddenly that person can't hit very well? Might just be bad luck.
Gorbacz wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Gary Teter wrote: "Pirates gonna pirate" doesn't actually have to be the reality. As a society we get to choose what behaviors we'll accept and which we won't. Just because something happens "on the internet" doesn't put it beyond the bounds of what's generally agreed upon to be acceptable. Alright, fair enough. How do we enforce it as a society then? Same as with policing everything else, elect officials who have enforcing X on their agenda and hope for the best. No, I mean how do we enforce it? How does Politician A enforce it? Whats the crunch here (so to speak)
Gary Teter wrote: "Pirates gonna pirate" doesn't actually have to be the reality. As a society we get to choose what behaviors we'll accept and which we won't. Just because something happens "on the internet" doesn't put it beyond the bounds of what's generally agreed upon to be acceptable. Alright, fair enough. How do we enforce it as a society then?
Guy Kilmore wrote: Hmm, so it looks like you can get all those feats in for the Aldori Sword Lord by third level and still dip monk for the Crane Style feats. Good times.
Of course, there are probably BAB requirements and whatnot, which I guess I will find out on the 16th.
Have you considered a one level dip in "Unarmed Fighter"? You get improved unarmed strike AND a style feat of your choice. Its something i've been eyeing for my rapier loving Bard.
Gauss wrote: 8 Red Wizards:
Yes, but the damage output will be significantly reduced when compared to other TWF builds. The approximate ratio is that for every -1attack the damage increase should be at least +3. In this case you are getting -2 (over other TWF builds) and only improving your damage by +1.
I would suggest either a Double Weapon or Sawtooth Sabres instead.
- Gauss
Yeah but the badass factor is a lot harder to calculate!
Those are all great ways to paint yourself as a greedy faceless blob of lawyers out for more money!
Which my gut tells me people will feel differently about 'stealing' from than a guy like Abandoned Arts here, or a group like Paizo, who are trying to make a living off content they are creating.
'Pirates' gonna 'Pirate'. May not be a suitable answer but it is the reality.

Abandoned Arts wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Garden Tool wrote:
Wouldn't you?
No.
But im not trying to make a living off my petty scribblings and snapshots. I'd just be happy other people took an interest.
This is probably just me though. Im not surprised other people feel differently. Fair enough... now imagine instead that piracy drives your profits down enough that the production of your material costs you time and money that you can no longer afford.
Or, to use a less dire scenario, what if you simply stop being able to produce as many products, as often?
Large or small, piracy has an impact. For the little guy (like me), the odds are stacked against your success from the beginning. It's not easy to turn a profit from a new venture, or to keep it viable. I'd wager that anyone at Paizo in their early days would've attested to that.
Piracy isn't harmless is what I'm saying, I guess.
Daron Woodson
Abandoned Arts I understand what you are saying, and I feel for you. However the problem is you can't make 'piracy' go away. The genie is out of the bottle, to quote a classic video game "Pandora's box has been open". Bonus points if you recognize it.
So what do we do now?
I don't have an answer for that. This is the reality so how do we adapt to it? I am not sure, society is changing right now. Its an interesting time to be around.

hustonj wrote: Coridan wrote: The cost for an RPG company to put one billion copies of their book on people's computers is the same cost as it is to put just one book on there. False.
The e-commerce infrastructure to support the sale and distribution of a billion copies of a work of significant size (say, 300+ pages with lots of imbedded artwork?) is NOT insignificant and easily ignored, despite your claims otherwise. Ironically this is the primary purpose of the bit torrent protocol. Need to get a billion copies out? don't have the bandwidth? Run a torrent, The bandwidth requirement gets distributed among the downloaders. Each downloader receives a random chunk, then uploads that random chunk to other downloaders. So very rapidly the torrent can by far exceed the capacity of the original uploader.
For those who play, or have played World of Warcraft, this is why the downloader uses bit torrent , instead of a direct download. Because they literally have to put 10 million copies of every patch in a mater of hours.
Garden Tool wrote:
Wouldn't you?
No.
But im not trying to make a living off my petty scribblings and snapshots. I'd just be happy other people took an interest.
This is probably just me though. Im not surprised other people feel differently.
Tattooed Mystic sounds great. Can't wait to read through all of these.
Im pretty new too, only playing for a few months. I am glad you got your questions answered!

Stebehil wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Stebehil wrote: Alexandrina wrote:
Actually the so-called digital generation is completely broke, they own nothing, they have far lower purchasing power than their less educated parent's did at the same age while having tens of thousands of dollars in debt for virtually useless degrees. They may of been given a Silver Platter, but that platter ended up costing them quite a lot.
This is not a generation of haves, and that is the problem. So yeah they copy stuff when they can't afford it, and some people are dicks and abuse it.
So while perhaps its bad for them to do it, your reasons why they do are about 180 degrees from reality. When I was studying and without employment for a year afterwards (and 1.5 years of meager pay after that), there were tons of things I wanted to have. But I could not afford them. So I did not get them. End of story. I don´t see what would be different nowadays, besides computer technology that makes these copies readily available. Not having money to afford luxury items is no excuse for stealing them. And you will note I did not state that not having the money for it justified copying them. Point taken, it was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction on my side. Sorry! It sounded like you were making excuses for those who copy stuff. I should apologize, I am being extra combative because I saw an entire generation insulted. Its one of those things that light my fuse so to speak.
Forgive me?

Epic Meepo wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Actually the so-called digital generation is completely broke, they own nothing, they have far lower purchasing power than their less educated parent's did at the same age while having tens of thousands of dollars in debt for virtually useless degrees.
This is not a generation of haves, and that is the problem. So yeah they copy stuff when they can't afford it, and some people are dicks and abuse it.
So piracy isn't stealing, it's welfare?
I'm sure creating a culture where people aren't required to pay for goods and services is going to work wonders for the purchasing power of said people once they become responsible for producing all of society's goods and services.[/sarcasm] Well its not "stealing" because no one is being deprived of their copy. Its infringement for sure.
Also you will note I did not say this justified anything. Simply pointing out the mischaracterization of the generation in question.
And please, can we stop using the word Piracy? isn't that a little bombastic? Can you imagine if pirates from the golden age of piracy boarded your ship and illegally copied your ship's log before leaving? Something tells me we'd remember the age... some what differently if thats all they did. Nope, even as I type I realize that is asking to much. Piracy it is.

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Krome wrote: Alexandrina wrote: Krome wrote: feytharn wrote: Coridan: There is tons of stuff for free, anybody with access to the internet can use. For Pathfinder, everything in the rulebooks is in the prd, much basic information about golarion can be found in the wiki. There are RPOGs that are completely free.
Somebody who is to broke to afford a legal pdf isn't going to whither and die.
Pirating a product that is supposed to make money for the producer (who, in case of the rpg industrie isn't among the rich either, probably) has less to do with the lack of money than with the unwillingness to spend it.
If I can't afford a book, a game, a movie or music, I will do without it - there is plenty of entertainment I don't have to spend money to get.
I agree and I think this gets to the core of this digital generation's attitude of entitlement. If it is out there and they want it, they feel entitled to it. They have not yet had to work for a real living supporting families. Everything is handed to them on a silver platter.
I think once this generation grows up and starts working and having their work taken without receiving payment (ie stolen) they will start to grow up. Actually the so-called digital generation is completely broke, they own nothing, they have far lower purchasing power than their less educated parent's did at the same age while having tens of thousands of dollars in debt for virtually useless degrees. They may of been given a Silver Platter, but that platter ended up costing them quite a lot.
This is not a generation of haves, and that is the problem. So yeah they copy stuff when they can't afford it, and some people are dicks and abuse it.
So while perhaps its bad for them to do it, your reasons why they do are about 180 degrees from reality. Really? lol
I was a broke student too. I had nothing. I worked my a$$ off in construction and paid to put myself through school over 10 years because I couldn't get loans because my credit sucked.... You don't think thievery was rampant during the depression? I find your theories about this time period fascinating. Please continue. I find them as fascinating as your theory that an entire generation is rotten... because!
"Man this new generation... they aren't like OUR generation am I right guys? They are rotten and not as good as our generation! No one ever helped us! But these guys they all expect help!" - Every person who has ever lived.

Stebehil wrote: Alexandrina wrote:
Actually the so-called digital generation is completely broke, they own nothing, they have far lower purchasing power than their less educated parent's did at the same age while having tens of thousands of dollars in debt for virtually useless degrees. They may of been given a Silver Platter, but that platter ended up costing them quite a lot.
This is not a generation of haves, and that is the problem. So yeah they copy stuff when they can't afford it, and some people are dicks and abuse it.
So while perhaps its bad for them to do it, your reasons why they do are about 180 degrees from reality. When I was studying and without employment for a year afterwards (and 1.5 years of meager pay after that), there were tons of things I wanted to have. But I could not afford them. So I did not get them. End of story. I don´t see what would be different nowadays, besides computer technology that makes these copies readily available. Not having money to afford luxury items is no excuse for stealing them. And you will note I did not state that not having the money for it justified copying them.

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Krome wrote: feytharn wrote: Coridan: There is tons of stuff for free, anybody with access to the internet can use. For Pathfinder, everything in the rulebooks is in the prd, much basic information about golarion can be found in the wiki. There are RPOGs that are completely free.
Somebody who is to broke to afford a legal pdf isn't going to whither and die.
Pirating a product that is supposed to make money for the producer (who, in case of the rpg industrie isn't among the rich either, probably) has less to do with the lack of money than with the unwillingness to spend it.
If I can't afford a book, a game, a movie or music, I will do without it - there is plenty of entertainment I don't have to spend money to get.
I agree and I think this gets to the core of this digital generation's attitude of entitlement. If it is out there and they want it, they feel entitled to it. They have not yet had to work for a real living supporting families. Everything is handed to them on a silver platter.
I think once this generation grows up and starts working and having their work taken without receiving payment (ie stolen) they will start to grow up. Actually the so-called digital generation is completely broke, they own nothing, they have far lower purchasing power than their less educated parent's did at the same age while having tens of thousands of dollars in debt for virtually useless degrees. They may of been given a Silver Platter, but that platter ended up costing them quite a lot.
This is not a generation of haves, and that is the problem. So yeah they copy stuff when they can't afford it, and some people are dicks and abuse it.
So while perhaps its bad for them to do it, your reasons why they do are about 180 degrees from reality.
gbonehead wrote: Gorbacz wrote: Coridan wrote: People spend what they can afford to, it isn't the wealthy who are pirating. Kim Dotcom would likely disagree with you. I do have to admit that I'm more lenient with broke college kids than I am with others. Not that I'm unwilling to tell them it's wrong (I'm certainly willing), but it's the people like my brother-in-law who's a radiologist and makes more money that God yet still brags about how many movies he's downloaded that piss me off.
Buy the damn things! You can afford it!
People are amazed at my DVD collection, especially since I could "just download them all." Sorry, I want to encourage the people making the movies I like to make more of them, not to encourage them to give up in disgust. You should slap your brother in law. For real. just smack him upside the head.
Though I would guess the wealthy radiologist is probably not the standard profile of the dreaded downloader.

Haladir wrote: DeathQuaker wrote:
Peppers, like most items of produce, are not intellectual property, and thus are not protected by copyright laws. Germinate all you like.
Now, if you take a cutting without permission of a unique patented rose hybrid, you might get in trouble, so I'd just stick to vegetables to be safe. :)
Actually, under US law, specific genetically modified (GM) traits CAN be patented. For example, the genes responsible for Monsanto's "Round-Up Ready" strains of all of the commercial crop staples (maize, soybeans, wheat, etc). Farmers who purchase "Round-Up Ready" seed sign a contract stipulating that they MAY NOT collect seed from their crops and re-plant. Monsanto regularly sends enforcement agents to fields to test the crops of farmers who DIDN'T buy Monsanto seed to see if their crops have the patented Monsanto genes-- and if they do, they sue. Hard. They litigate into the ground. Even if the seeds got the GM traits by simple polination of non-GM crop by GM pollen!
Read about one such story. There are literally hundreds.
So, no, you aren't necessarily in the clear by planting your pepper seeds. At least, if that pepper has GM traits developed by Monsanto! So even IF my peppers are open source peppers, but a Bee comes along and helps it get freaky with a copyrighted pepper plant from a farm down the road then I am a pirate? Arg! Where can I purchase an eyepatch?
brock, no the other one... wrote: OscarMike wrote:
For crying out loud, if this mentality existed in the stone age we'd still be there since only the guy who first rubbed two sticks together would be allowed to make fire.
No, it's an invention so he would have patented it. He'd have licensed the patent for a fee of cooked mammoth steaks and would have become fabulously wealth and well-fed. He'd have then been the first person to die of congestive heart failure. Then he would of used his wealth to lobby the grand chief of his cave complex to extend his patent forever.
Forgive me, the problem is you have companies like Paizo kicking ass, doing their best and they seems genuinely great. But you can't divorce any discussion of copyright law away from the 'mega-corporations' who have written said laws over the last 80 years.

DeathQuaker wrote: Alexandrina wrote: OscarMike wrote: wutisthisidonteven...
I didn't sign no stinking contract. I purchased a product. When I spend my money on someone's product it becomes my property. If not, I should be given my money back as no exchange has taken place.
If my computer gets hacked and Paizo thinks they can take me to court when MY property resurfaces on the net they better have a *real* good lawyer... and I mean Jack McCoy tier. Anything less is only going to cost them their (and my) litigation fees.
I find this disconcerting. Not but a few months ago I purchased some peppers from a large farming company. I enjoyed the peppers quite thoroughly, so I saved the seeds and germinated then planted them. I currently have a plant full of peppers growing in my backyard. I assumed this was legal, but what if buy buying the peppers I had unknowingly entered into a contract with the farmer that was legally binding? I might be okay though because I did not do anything as legally binding as clicking a button on a website... but pretty close.
Cayden Cailean help me for I have become a pepper pirate. Peppers, like most items of produce, are not intellectual property, and thus are not protected by copyright laws. Germinate all you like.
Now, if you take a cutting without permission of a unique patented rose hybrid, you might get in trouble, so I'd just stick to vegetables to be safe. :) I just want to make chili with out being in the death-grip of big pepper.
Please Don't Kill Me wrote: Alexandrina wrote: I have one question, that will let me know if I need to drool over this more or just go to bed, the Aldori Swordlord does it gain Dex to Damage on just the Aldori dueling sword? Only the Aldori Dueling swords and only if you have one. I know that is probably a bit disappointing but it is at least a step in the right direction for Dex fighters. Ah I understand. Thank you for your response =)
blackbloodtroll wrote: I believe I misunderstood your question. Could you please clarify? You understood it properly. I want to know if the Swordlord Prestige class grants its class bonuses to other finesse-able weapons. Such as the Rapier. Or if it only affects the Aldori Dueling Sword. Especially the Dex to Damage class feature.
And I ask this even though I am well aware that Agile weapon enchants exist.
blackbloodtroll wrote: Alexandrina wrote: I have one question, that will let me know if I need to drool over this more or just go to bed, the Aldori Swordlord does it gain Dex to Damage on just the Aldori dueling sword? The Agile enchantment will do this. I am aware of this.
I have one question, that will let me know if I need to drool over this more or just go to bed, the Aldori Swordlord does it gain Dex to Damage on just the Aldori dueling sword?

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OscarMike wrote: wutisthisidonteven...
I didn't sign no stinking contract. I purchased a product. When I spend my money on someone's product it becomes my property. If not, I should be given my money back as no exchange has taken place.
If my computer gets hacked and Paizo thinks they can take me to court when MY property resurfaces on the net they better have a *real* good lawyer... and I mean Jack McCoy tier. Anything less is only going to cost them their (and my) litigation fees.
I find this disconcerting. Not but a few months ago I purchased some peppers from a large farming company. I enjoyed the peppers quite thoroughly, so I saved the seeds and germinated then planted them. I currently have a plant full of peppers growing in my backyard. I assumed this was legal, but what if buy buying the peppers I had unknowingly entered into a contract with the farmer that was legally binding? I might be okay though because I did not do anything as legally binding as clicking a button on a website... but pretty close.
Cayden Cailean help me for I have become a pepper pirate.

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Gorbacz wrote: There's no "innocent until proven guilty" rule here, that's a criminal law thing. We're talking private law here, contracts between equal (in legal terms) parties.
If you enter a legally binding contract (of purchasing Paizo PDFs), you must be aware of all ramifications of that, including the fact that if those files with your watermark turn out anywhere in the Intardwebz (regardless if you uploaded them, or you got hacked, or you misclicked something in a torrent application) you are in trouble.
On the business side of things, you can't expect a company to carry out private investigations in every case to check how did those files turn up on the 'net. Paizo is a book publisher, not an insurance company. If things were otherwise, every such situation would end with a stalemate, because the person in question would claim that their super-intelligent welsh corgi uploaded the files while he/she was sleeping (true story, happened in one case of breaching NDA and company secrecy) and Paizo would be unable to verify that in any way.
You honestly expect that people actually liable for uploading files would respond to query from Paizo with "yeah, I did it, totally my fault, thanks for asking, here are backlogs of my torrent app and no hard feelings about locking out my PDFs here"? Gee, there's so much hope and trust in humanity out there after all...
And no, the "but I didn't know the rules said so" defense doesn't work since ancient Rome.
When dealing with issues such as copying a pattern of 1s and 0s with intent to retain said copy, instead of deleting after a quick but arbitrary time on a digital storage device, so that Party B may view it on Party B's digital reading device, instead of just viewing it on Party A's digital reading deice I also, often, look to Ancient Rome for answers.
Gauss wrote: Alexandrina:
Under current rules nobody can wield Large 2-handed weapons (except the Titan Mauler but that ability doesnt work yet so still nobody).
A medium one handed weapon can be made into a large 2handed weapon though. (Example: medium one-handed Longsword becomes a Large 2handed Longsword with a -2attack penalty and 2d6damage.)
- Gauss
Ah I undestand, so it looks like most examples aren't even getting you more then 2.5 average damage for -2 to hit. So its even less of an issue than it seems to be by glancing at the weapon damage chart.

Some other weapon stuff numbers etc, Assuming wielding the damn things aren't an issue.
Heres the format
M > L: Average Increase: Percentage of increase
1d2 > 1d3: +.5 : +33%
1d3 >1d4: +.5 : +25%
1d4 > 1d6: +1 : +40%
1d6 > 1d8: +1 : +22%
1d8 > 2d6: +2.5 : +56%
2d4 > 2d6: +2: +40%
1d10 > 2d8: +3.5: +64%
1d12 > 3d6: +4: +62%
2d6 > 3d6: +3.5 +50%
Looks like my math was mistaken on the Bastard sword earlier I will correct it, its only a +3.5 increase in average damage. So its actually just a little worse than Power Attack not better.
Honestly the ONLY weapon that gives you the same trade off of -2 to hit and +4 to damage is the 1d12 weapons and theres only a couple of those. Its slightly ridiculous for the Bastard Sword because you can use it 1 handed. But most GMs probably won't let you use a Large Bastard Sword 1 handed.
And again about Power Attack, carrying around a big weapon is twice the cost, twice the weight, and you can't ever shut off the -2 to hit if you need to make sure you hit. And at the higher levels im not certain its game breaking. But I am less experienced there. One thing to consider is by nerfing the big weapon bonuses you are hurting basically just the people who carry around big ass two handed weapons, who i'd think tend to be the guys who pretty much JUST hit things for a living.
****NOTE: I am not up to speed on the rules about who can wield what, so this doesn't really take that into account, just flat out crunches the numbers.
One more thought, House Ruling weapon size damages will also effect the value of the spell Enlarge person.

Mr_Nevada wrote: After a couple of months dealing with Oversized Weapons, I have a question. Why would a Large Bastard Sword do an additional 6 points of damage? (1d10 -> 2d8) After a small amount of reading the Oversized Weapons rules, I have happened upon a more balanced way of doing oversized weapons.
For every size catagory above Medium, the weapon deals +1 damage however, you still impose the attack penalty. Weapon damage cannot go past Medium size (a Large Bastard Sword would still do 1d10 not 2d8 and would right off the bat deal 1d10 + 1).
What do you guys think, it's pretty simple and easy to work with. This will keep all weapons from getting up to an additional 4 - 6 points.
hmm, I admit it seems rather haphazard sometimes.
Lets look at the weapon averages.
M. Bastard Sword
Min: 1
Max: 10
Avg: 5.50
L. Bastard Sword
Min: 2
Max: 16
Avg: 9.00
So while it is capable of hitting +6 harder it only averages +3.50 damage more. Which is still damned impressive. Thats approximately a 82 percent increase in base damage.
Curiously a Small Great sword does 1d10, and a medium Great Sword does 2d6.
Roll: 2d6
Statistics
Min: 2
Max: 12
Avg: 7.00
2d6 would only be a 2.5 point increase on Average and seems less crazy, but all the big swords have issues like this. The benefit of going from a medium to a large rapier is relatively little, but these big weapons... especially with extra weapon dice get a huge benefit from it.
So again M. Great Sword
Roll: 2d6
Statistics
Min: 2
Max: 12
Avg: 7.00
Large Great Sword
Roll: 3d6
Statistics
Min: 3
Max: 18
Avg: 10.50
Thats a +3.5 average damage increase. thats a 50 percent increase in average base damage.
Lets try a 1h weapon like the Rapier.
Roll: 1d6
Statistics
Min: 1
Max: 6
Avg: 3.50
vs Large Rapier
Roll: 1d8
Statistics
Min: 1
Max: 8
Avg: 4.50
1 point average increase in damage, which is about a 29 percent increase in base damage.
for fun lets try a 1d12 weapon
Roll: 1d12
Statistics
Min: 1
Max: 12
Avg: 6.50
L is 3d6 so
Roll: 3d6
Statistics
Min: 3
Max: 18
Avg: 10.50
+4 increase in base damage 70 percent increase in base damage.
Although these benefits do seem to be averaged out by the fact that most people swinging big swords are already going to be adding +3 or so to them or more from strength bonuses.
These percentages probably are similar for all 2 handed and 1 handed weapons. Bastard Sword being the exception because the exotic proficiency lets you swing it with one hand.
Looks like any weapon that goes from 1 dice roll to two benefits the most.
So you have to ask yourself, even with the most extreme examples, the 1d10 and 1d12 weapons, IS this unbalanced? a Large 1d10 weapon like the bastard sword benefits from +4.5 average damage for -2 to hit. This is very similar to the benefit from Power Attack. **** EDIT: Its only a 3.5 increase on the Bastard sword, so its worse than Power attack... Please escuse my poor math skills!
Slightly harder hitting, but you never get the option to 'shut it off' when your opponent is hard to hit. For the 1d12 weapons this is a +4 to damage for -2 to hit, and exactly the same as power attack. Now it will be most noticeable in the lower levels, of course the lower levels is when your -2 to hit makes a huge difference. Going to a large Great Sword is even less effective than simply power attacking. Of course Power Attack does stack with this. All for double weapon cost, double weapon weight (and the big ones are heavy) And all of this pretty much only benefits martial characters.
As a Bard I would not benefit at all from a large rapier. Indeed I couldn't use weapon finesse so i'd be in extra trouble... Of course while I was swinging my now useless rapier around failing to hit anything, a burley barbarian batting around my opponent with an oversized Earth Breaker would be a welcomed sight!
So theres some numbers crunched for ya. Is it to good? Thats up to you.
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