Ptolus Adventures /w Advanced d20 Magic (Inactive)

Game Master EltonJ

Adventures in Ptolus using the Advanced d20 Magic rules.


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I'll throw in for a rogue if there is still room. I like playing with Elton so I trust this to go in on it.


Neat, thanks @fatmanspencer.


A little update.

David and Michelle Lyons owns the copyright to Advanced d20 Magic. I just got that from Mark.

I can still use it for our game, though.


EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:

A Sica can work as a favored weapon. Were you looking to add the Arena to your background, though?

If that is a hard requirement, then i guess not. Having been born with that mutant 3rd eye, they try to keep low profile.

Considering the ability score adjustments, equal to the sorcerer's point buy, is that ok?

Difference is +1 hp per lvl and wis stuff increases a little earlier.

That's not a hard requirement. I just was curious since the sica is a gladiator's weapon.

Q1. Yes, that's okay.

Well, unless others use a sica, one could remove a couple of inches and call it the curved long dagger, and remove the perform quality. This cleric sure isn't keen on stabbing people for the greater glory, and brag about it, like gladiators do. :)


So we have cleric for sure with you right Chy? What kind of cleric do you think of having, like support or healing focused?


fatmanspencer wrote:
So we have cleric for sure with you right Chy? What kind of cleric do you think of having, like support or healing focused?

The magic system tampers with in combat divine casting. Any support or healing would best be done before combat. Or assured of not being hit while spending an entire round casting.

Though N alignment, the cleric channels positive, however.

I propose investing in a wand of cure wounds for that quick in combat healing.


Chyrone wrote:
fatmanspencer wrote:
So we have cleric for sure with you right Chy? What kind of cleric do you think of having, like support or healing focused?

The magic system tampers with in combat divine casting. Any support or healing would best be done before combat. Or assured of not being hit while spending an entire round casting.

Though N alignment, the cleric channels positive, however.

I propose investing in a wand of cure wounds for that quick in combat healing.

Alright, that does help me with the idea of the rogue. I feel we may be a lil bit of like some... I'm not saying THIEVES, but I'm thinking maybe a rogue with some magic thieving. Thieves honor?


fatmanspencer wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
fatmanspencer wrote:
So we have cleric for sure with you right Chy? What kind of cleric do you think of having, like support or healing focused?

The magic system tampers with in combat divine casting. Any support or healing would best be done before combat. Or assured of not being hit while spending an entire round casting.

Though N alignment, the cleric channels positive, however.

I propose investing in a wand of cure wounds for that quick in combat healing.

Alright, that does help me with the idea of the rogue. I feel we may be a lil bit of like some... I'm not saying THIEVES, but I'm thinking maybe a rogue with some magic thieving. Thieves honor?

Sure. Though i'm guessing yours follows a more optimistic patron? Arcane trickster path?


I'm not how much of an optimistic patron, but yes, arcane trickster path. If it works well, from what I see it will, but no guarantees really, though I've always wanted to play one, I never ACTUALLY have. Hell I've done rogues in the Owlcat games, and never touched arcane trickster.


fatmanspencer wrote:
I'm not how much of an optimistic patron, but yes, arcane trickster path. If it works well, from what I see it will, but no guarantees really, though I've always wanted to play one, I never ACTUALLY have. Hell I've done rogues in the Owlcat games, and never touched arcane trickster.

The same for me. I've let Octavia take it, but in no single run did my mc.


fatmanspencer wrote:
I'm not how much of an optimistic patron, but yes, arcane trickster path. If it works well, from what I see it will, but no guarantees really, though I've always wanted to play one, I never ACTUALLY have. Hell I've done rogues in the Owlcat games, and never touched arcane trickster.

The Arcane Trickster is a viable path, yep.


Chyrone wrote:
fatmanspencer wrote:
I'm not how much of an optimistic patron, but yes, arcane trickster path. If it works well, from what I see it will, but no guarantees really, though I've always wanted to play one, I never ACTUALLY have. Hell I've done rogues in the Owlcat games, and never touched arcane trickster.
The same for me. I've let Octavia take it, but in no single run did my mc.

I forgot she could take it! I always had her and her man in my party. They were great.

Also hearing it's viable is great. Gonna be doing all the sneaky wizard stuff. As far as I can


Awesome!

Would like to see what you can do with the Arcane Trickster.


When do you need everything and when will you be picking your final selections do you know?


Well, since its just you four. I will be selecting you four. I'll need everything by tonight.


Well damn, it'll be tomorrow before I can get the crunch due to work tonight, but I'm thinking of an elf or tiefling as the race, anything else immediately needed tonight? I'll try to have some more worked out but can't promise much


Nope, just the crunch and background.


crunchy crunchy made right I think:

CASTISA YAPIONE

Chaotic Good Medium Tiefling Rogue 1;

Init 6; Senses Darkvision; Perception: +3

DEFENSE

AC 16, touch 14, flat-footed 12

hp 4

Fort 2, Ref 6, Will 0

OFFENSE

Speed 30 ft.

Melee Whip +4 (1d3+1 ), Dagger +4 (1d4+1 19-20), Rapier +4 (1d6+1 18-20),

STATISTICS

Str 13, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 8, Cha 16

Base Atk + +0; CMB +1; CMD 15

Feats Weapon Finesse;

SQ ; Sneak Attack +1d6; Trapfinding;

Skills Acrobatics +8; Bluff +7; Climb +5; Diplomacy +7; Disable Device +9; Perception +3; Sleight of Hand +8; Stealth +8; Use Magic Device +7;

Equipment

I think I have the crunch done right, maybe.

Background I am working on, but I am thinking an abandoned child thief of the streets, perhaps got caught stealing from someone else's character present? That way I have some connection to the party.


For the rest of the group, what exactly is our backstorys? I can see mine having stolen or got caught by our pretty boy sorcerer Lord, so I'm curious how to maybe tie us together, if possible.


fatmanspencer wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

I think I have the crunch done right, maybe.

Background I am working on, but I am thinking an abandoned child thief of the streets, perhaps got caught stealing from someone else's character present? That way I have some connection to the party.

That could easily work with mine. An enticing public donation box to the monastery/temple my pc works as a clerk for. As a fellow orphan, she'd rather dissuade than rat on, if the donation box is left be. Your thoughts on that angle?

Background is generally thought out, just need it to go on paper, sort to speak.

Edit: didn't immediately notice sorcery guy as the target of getting caught.


I like the idea of her having stolen from various people growing up, and maybe having been caught a few times by the various party members. Or they knew her from when she was not always a willing person to the thieving. I noticed some of the darker groups deal in unwilling people, and who else to target but those who have no one to defend them like a tiefling. Unless I'm missing something in the players guide.

Maybe while trying to steal it she maybe thought better of it, or even better, since she is chaotic good, she realized your character knew the struggle of the street and could maybe offer a better way to younger kids. Castisa feels she is too old for redemption, but that doesn't mean she won't try to help the younger ones. She wasn't always free to make her own choices, and she realizes the life she picked was her choice, one shouldn't be forced into it

From what I understand the tieflings are sorta looked down on, so her being a street rat is a great angle to play up, and I got some ideas that she may not be just some random orphan either. I mean what noble family would want a tiefling daughter? The disgrace it would bring! Or even a failed experiment from one of the crime families, who knows? Whatever the DM thinking is okay also, because I know tieflings are a bit rare, but not overly so.

I do not wish to go overboard with the backstory of her parents, but there is always the great appeal of them not wanting her to her being a disgrace to a noble family to whatever.


Chyrone wrote:
fatmanspencer wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

I think I have the crunch done right, maybe.

Background I am working on, but I am thinking an abandoned child thief of the streets, perhaps got caught stealing from someone else's character present? That way I have some connection to the party.

That could easily work with mine. An enticing public donation box to the monastery/temple my pc works as a clerk for. As a fellow orphan, she'd rather dissuade than rat on, if the donation box is left be. Your thoughts on that angle?

Background is generally thought out, just need it to go on paper, sort to speak.

Edit: didn't immediately notice sorcery guy as the target of getting caught.

Still a good connection! It's why I included it in my follow up post. Who doesn't need a clerk friend? Who else would get a tiefling papers saying she was a person?

I mean, they are fakes, but still! She belongs!


fatmanspencer wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
fatmanspencer wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

I think I have the crunch done right, maybe.

Background I am working on, but I am thinking an abandoned child thief of the streets, perhaps got caught stealing from someone else's character present? That way I have some connection to the party.

That could easily work with mine. An enticing public donation box to the monastery/temple my pc works as a clerk for. As a fellow orphan, she'd rather dissuade than rat on, if the donation box is left be. Your thoughts on that angle?

Background is generally thought out, just need it to go on paper, sort to speak.

Edit: didn't immediately notice sorcery guy as the target of getting caught.

Still a good connection! It's why I included it in my follow up post. Who doesn't need a clerk friend? Who else would get a tiefling papers saying she was a person?

I mean, they are fakes, but still! She belongs!

I do believe forgeries are linguistics associated, and the cleric has 1 background point in that. Even if it isn't a class skill.


I didn't pick up any linguistics skills, in my head Castisa is lucky to be able to read. She can, just doesn't really get to read other languages, and the fancy language of the bureaucracy just makes her head hurt.

Though I do hope to hear from the other players as well about possible connections we all have to each other, since the city does give that benefit of many different people meeting. We all could know each other through different means, like you being a clerk means you might deal with the others of us as a client, or like with me as the only contact I have to a good escape for orphaned youths.

I like having connections with the other players, it helps to get everyone together on some things, but doesn't outright prevent players from having not great ideas of each other. Enemies do work together sometimes.


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Background, bit long read:

Natalia's parents, Thomas and Michelle Irvington, were, prior to Natalia's birth, mages in service to the Ptolus city government. Both conjurers in their own skilled right.

But as with many repetitive careers, people seek challenges or hobbies to distract themselves from the chains of boredom that follows.
In one of the restricted sections of the city's arcane archives, lay nigh forgotten tomes. One such tome held secrets, eldritch secrets, secrets to commune with things unknown and perhaps even the gods themselves.

Too eager to take proper time to prepare and learn, Natalia's parents invoked communion with an obscure entity. Pennyura the Unseen, Lady of Shadow and Secrets, it called itself. A thing of shadow and eerie whispers. Failing to have presented an offering upon communed with, it manifested in their minds at a whim, scaring them silly.

"I will have what is a secret to you..."

Confused by what it had said, the two were left alone and relieved.
Though this was not to last, as Michelle discovered she was with child.
The entity's words suddenly haunted them, but surely it could not take an infant, and the thought was eventually discarded again.

Though at her birth, Natalia's first vision of her parents was not with her own eyes, but with a dark colored 3rd above the two. It stared right at her parents, before turning the color it is now. The scared midwife's ramblings drew the attention of the higherups, who arrested the parents for illegally using a forbidden ritual. A mutant child was surely sign of otherworldly corruption that followed from it. (Which was true)

While her parents were fired, tried and locked away in a deep dungeon warded against magic, Natalia was put in fostercare with an aasimar official, who had lost his own child not too long ago. A monk working at civil affairs, named Nathaniel Richford.

As time passed, Natalia became an assistant civil affairs clerk, working under Nathaniel. Still, all that time would not be boring, as she started to hear faint whispers at the edge of hearing, and sometimes the voice of a woman who called herself 'Penny', who adoringly referred to Natalia as 'my sweet child'. Slowly and subtle, Penny's influence grew, to where Natalia became a follower capable of small divine magics.

What was Penny. A deity, a demon, some horrible unknown? Whichever, she claims as she pleases, and right now, that resulted in an acolyte of her obscure faith of secrets and madness.


Very Prolific today!

Glad you two are working out a background together. And Chyrone, I like Natalia's background.


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crunchy long backstory with possible connections for everyone maybe if they want.:

Castisa was not born to a noble family or into a life of wealth, at least that is what she thinks, as she never met her parents. Born to unknown parentage, she was found quickly and raised in perhaps the most harsh conditions any one in Ptolus could, as a tiefling in the Warrens. With no one to protect the young woman, she quickly fell into the life of crime and ill dealings that many in the Warrens committed. Until she was caught one day stealing from a noble family at the age of 6, she had a pretty uneventful life for one in the Warrens But it came out quickly as many in the Warrens knew, that without papers she was nothing and no one.

This changed as when she was sentenced to serve the sentence for her crimes, which by the time she stood trial including an attempt on the life of one of the newly born Dallimothan children. While this may or may not have been true, due to her clear demonic heritage meant that she was framed for the crime for sure, but that her age spared her the gallows. It however did not spare her once word reached certain ears of her skill and background, a life that shaped her for the future, or for at least the future the Balacazar crime family had planned for her

This part of her history, while it shaped her future skills as a thief, is not one that the young looking woman spoke of often. She was a young girl when the Balacazar had her, and the next 15 years she spent as one of their toys was not great memories. The tattoos she bore, at first ones that would just look good on her back, instead told of the complex ownership the crime family had of her, for as a non citizen she had little right, nor ability to refuse the claim she was nothing but their property.

One day this changed, because despite her life of parties and thieving, a chance encounter stealing from a donation box one rainy day showed that not everyone was as evil as she had been surrounded by. A young woman had stopped her, but not turned her over. Despite her years of not knowing anything better, she had been shown kindness not for anything but simple goodness.

The next five years she never spoke to the woman who saved her, but those actions had far reaching effects. Castisa managed to get rid of her connection to the Balacazar family (at least she thought she had, but who knows the magics used to craft her tattoos?), and managed to get her hands on papers proving her a citizen. To anyone who knew anything, the papers were clearly fake, but she did not know this. All she knew was she could help other finally, freed from her bondage. The tail and horns marking her as different she kept hidden, the ears she claimed came from her elven parent, lost to the Spire long ago. S

She did still see the woman who was kind to her, and helped direct lost children to her, hoping to save them from the life of crime she had to live with. While never directly talking to her, she made sure the youth, mainly young pretty girls, made it to Natalia safely in efforts to avoid the life she had endured.

Now a thief of some local renown, Castisa still checked and even guarded that clerk's office, ensuring other low level thieves did not target her. But her early crimes against the Dallimothan family nor her supposed escape from the Balacazar family were completely forgotten by those in power, nor was the truth of her parentage either. These forces surely had not forgotten the small tiefling girl, whose value to some of the even worse families would be greatly paid for.


Just an fyi if anyone wants to work on something with me for a background or a point where we met, totally let me know, I'm up for working things in. I left enough open I think for me to have stolen, met as an orphan, met at some point at least. Just lemme know


fatmanspencer wrote:
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On age, they'd probably be about the same.

What could/would Castisa have done in return for making a fake ID for those girls that once in a while get moved towards her?

Natalia is not lawful, she'd probably do it in return for something.
She's got a thing for obscure literature and knowledge, and can devour those as if obsessed, if they are interesting. (madness takes many forms)


Well, it depends on if Natalia is open to speaking with the thief really. I can't say Castisa would be overly trusting at first, but maybe like a pot of fancy ink left or a fancy writing instrument, something useful but a bit pricy for Natalia.

Maybe no direct words for the first few kids or even years, but if she does maybe pick up the information about literature or knowledge, she would totally get her some scrolls. Maybe send the kids with the scrolls to get 'translated', so nothing is overly suspicious at first.

Since Castisa isn't lawful either she doesn't see an issue in stealing books and other scrolls to help these girls, but not sure how well she would approach and talk to Natalia, given she is still a thief, and a nice legal clerk isn't exactly the best choice of friends. Though people may just assume Cas shakes Natalia down for money or something, she does sorta keep her face and body hidden.

In fact, Natalia would be completely aware some demon girl tried to murder one of the elder Dallimothan as a child, but no one is sure what happened after the girl was found guilty. At least noone Natalia knew.


fatmanspencer wrote:

Well, it depends on if Natalia is open to speaking with the thief really. I can't say Castisa would be overly trusting at first, but maybe like a pot of fancy ink left or a fancy writing instrument, something useful but a bit pricy for Natalia.

Maybe no direct words for the first few kids or even years, but if she does maybe pick up the information about literature or knowledge, she would totally get her some scrolls. Maybe send the kids with the scrolls to get 'translated', so nothing is overly suspicious at first.

Since Castisa isn't lawful either she doesn't see an issue in stealing books and other scrolls to help these girls, but not sure how well she would approach and talk to Natalia, given she is still a thief, and a nice legal clerk isn't exactly the best choice of friends. Though people may just assume Cas shakes Natalia down for money or something, she does sorta keep her face and body hidden.

In fact, Natalia would be completely aware some demon girl tried to murder one of the elder Dallimothan as a child, but no one is sure what happened after the girl was found guilty. At least noone Natalia knew.

Natalia is at times a bit socially awkward. It comes with people initially looking at you as a freak, in childhood.

In keeping features hidden for a sense of normalcy, they share something.

Maybe she's heard something, or maybe she was too busy spending time reading at the library, who could say.


Given the social awkward of Natalia, and while they both were viewed as freaks, I would imagine they both actually bonded over it. They may not know WHAT is different about the other, because there is no telling with either outside of seeing Castisa demonic features or what Natalia has from her heritage, they just can see the trauma reflected from being bullied and picked on. The only difference that can be seen is, someone cared for Natalia, while Castisa was put to the wayside so to speak.

On a side note, I hope to hear something from our other party members. It would be nice to figure out their thoughts as well.


Yeah . . .

The Waskally works 12 hour shifts for an understaffed hospital, so I promised to work with him. I can contact DeJoker on discord and ask him to post here, though.


Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?


Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?

Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.


EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?
Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.

Have you played the 3 Shadowrun games from Hairebrained Schemes?


Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?
Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.
Have you played the 3 Shadowrun games from Hairebrained Schemes?

Played Dragonfall, working on Hong Kong, haven't played Shadowrun Returns.


EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?
Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.
Have you played the 3 Shadowrun games from Hairebrained Schemes?
Played Dragonfall, working on Hong Kong, haven't played Shadowrun Returns.

Returns is okay, Hong Kong is my favorite of the three. I'd recommend getting custom campaigns, such as the Caldecott Caper. People have made some very good custom stories.


Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?
Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.
Have you played the 3 Shadowrun games from Hairebrained Schemes?
Played Dragonfall, working on Hong Kong, haven't played Shadowrun Returns.
Returns is okay, Hong Kong is my favorite of the three. I'd recommend getting custom campaigns, such as the Caldecott Caper. People have made some very good custom stories.

Honestly I'm just jealous you got them to work. How? Can't get but I think... Maybe returns to work on my laptop


fatmanspencer wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
EltonJ wrote:
Chyrone wrote:
Then...what role is the mystery member, your friend, going for?
Fighter, I think. I'll have to ask him after my Shadowrun game tonight.
Have you played the 3 Shadowrun games from Hairebrained Schemes?
Played Dragonfall, working on Hong Kong, haven't played Shadowrun Returns.
Returns is okay, Hong Kong is my favorite of the three. I'd recommend getting custom campaigns, such as the Caldecott Caper. People have made some very good custom stories.
Honestly I'm just jealous you got them to work. How? Can't get but I think... Maybe returns to work on my laptop

I hope you can get it to work. Dragonfall is a good game.


bump.


EltonJ wrote:
bump.

Still here.


Still here


Awesome. I'm waiting on the Waskally before we start.

I promised I work with him.


Heard anything from him yet?


No, I'm afraid not. :(


As we wait for the Whaskally on this game, I can start recruiting for a game set in Sharn. Same as before, Critzable's Hommlet game got me thinking, though. If he can run 5e, I can still run PF 1e. And still have the chance to playtest Advanced d20 Magic.

I promised Waskally that I would work with him, and that's what I'm going to do.

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