[PFS1E] Betrayal in the Bones (Inactive)

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"I'm attempting to prevent another telekinesis by forcing a concentration check due to damage while casting. On average, that would be a DC 32.5 check, so... we'll see."

"That's assuming, of course, that Quenly's "armor is an object" gambit fails. And that the previous telekinesis wasn't actually a supernatural ability."

*Muffled sound* "Korin will need one more turn to get mutagen up, then I will Phase Step him to close quarter combat position."

@GM, what action do you say it is to activate a snapleaf?

I have had it adjudicated as both an immediate and move action by different GMs.

It says immediate in the description.

"I will send Korin to a flanking position behind the big thing next turn."

Waiting on the rest of you to act.

I was mostly waiting to see what Eadie would do.

Not sure if I've been included in some of the telepathic discussions, so Lichaam's not quite sure where Korin is. Or Yanndu, for that matter.

How high is the ceiling here? 30', or higher?

Quenly will indicate when he's "talking" to only one ally - otherwise if you're within 60' of him you're in range of the telepathy. Also, with two shadow dragon allies we could chain telepathy over a wider area.

Quenly will indicate when he's "talking" to only one ally - otherwise if you're within 60' of him you're in range of the telepathy. Also, with two shadow dragon allies we could chain telepathy over a wider area.

"Just one telepathic relay, at the moment. I'm on the ceiling behind Lichaam... however high that is. Watching his back, you understand."

The dragon considers the map, then continues uneasily. "Unless I've been killed. I don't think I've been killed? The corridor I'm in isn't on the map anymore, and neither am I, so something may have happened."

Undead are immune to paralysis, are you sure?

Shoot, you're right. Thank you. I'd forgotten that.

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"I have walls of fire and ice, and a sphere of force. All those would interfere with our attacks - I mainly prepared them to split or slow down groups so our frontline can handle them in smaller doses. I also have a few direct anti-group spells prepared, but for single large targets I was expecting to use chains of light."

"I could have started summoning, but space will be at a premium, and I didn't know whether I'd have room for it once my next turn rolled around. Plus, I think a celestial tyrannosaurus could help greatly against Thurl, perhaps draw out any of his extra-lethal attacks."

He looks disgustedly at the semi-real dice lying at his feet. "Instead, I roll 1's, and Will is generally an undead's strongest save."

Sigh. "At least remember we've all got haste up."

When the martials start smacking it, it shouldn't last long. Most of the 3/4 BAB martials need time to "warm up" before they can safely go in (unless you are bow Warpriest).

The ceiling in the cave is 60' high

Ooh, that's helpful. It'd be more helpful if we had an archer, but the casters being "not in melee range" could change some things.

I'll probably want to move up forwards next turn, to get more people into Lichaam's anti-Death aura.

Waiting for Eadie to get in flanking position.

Waiting for Eadie to get in flanking position.

Lichaam is also waiting for the melees to get into melee.

hey Guys, I'm dealing with some IRL stuff right now. Nothing life threatening, but I may need Quenly to bot Eadie for the time being.

If you can give me 24 hours, I can let you know if I'll be able to post.

If not, just have Quenly bot Eadie. Thanks and my apologies.

Standing by.

(take care of yourself mate)

Thanks, bud.

I'm sorry, guys but I'm going to drop for the time being.

I am happy for Quenly to run Eadie, and will accept any consequences good or bad, GM.

Poor Eadie. She's not my priority right now.

Eadie has greater invisibility at the moment, so that should go a certain way into protecting her.

Take care of real-life first, Kind Sir. We shall be waiting here for as long as it takes! best wishes of luck and comfort are being psychically transmitted towards Australia...

Regards,
PDK

Real life comes first. Take care.

Indeed, real life comes first. I hope everything sorts itself out. Feel free to come back whenever you are able.

I think Eadie already posted a Ready action - but I can bot her this evening (probably 6-8 hours or so from now).

"I do need to know where everyone is at before I start throwing larger spells around."

"So, after this battle... are we leaving Eadie to guard the dwarves and trying for the four-player adjustment, or taking her silent self along?"

Lots of pressure on the newbie seeker's shoulder if the fighter stays to guard the dwarves, but Korin never turns down a challenge.
which means Lichaam might not need to Arcane Bond the mansion to protect them

Ultimatly it's the GM's call, but we should at least keep her for the Warsworn battle, right?

Lots of pressure on the newbie seeker's shoulder if the fighter stays to guard the dwarves, but Korin never turns down a challenge.

which means Lichaam might not need to Arcane Bond the mansion to protect them

Ultimatly it's the GM's call, but we should at least keep her for the Warsworn battle, right?

If we go four-player, it might be best to rest and recover in the mansion. With only one melee type, haste becomes a less-valuable prep, and summons a little more valuable. Lichaam could also blow the higher-level spells now without needing to worry about keeping them for later.

Of course, that does give Thurl another 10-12 hours to prepare, but we would have lost that time taking the dwarves out, so maybe it's fine? Never did end up getting that scroll of Nap Stack that I was considering, either.

EDIT: However, I do have a boon I could use to get the scroll. That would give the casters a new chance to prepare spells and reduce the downtime to three hours in total. Do we want to do this, and just blast through the current encounter?

Resting and re-preping might not be a bad idea now that we are closer, and don't have to worry about travel. Nap Stack helps our dwraves friend recover as well since they can get the bonus from resting for full 8 hours. Not that it will have a significant impact for our future battle, but nice to have.

That being said, a CL12+ Greater Magic Weapon is welcome to bring his weapon enhancement bonus to +3,

I don't have that in my current spell books. I could put it there in 30 minutes (thanks to boon+feat+equipment), but that's still half an hour. Might not be a bad idea if we can spare the time, though, since you'd be the frontline.

Freedom of Movement and Life Bubble is almost mandatory

I have Life Bubble prepared, but didn't want to cast it until we got out of the Maze of Buff Expiration. Quenly has Freedom of Movement.

Lichaam already has a Ring of Freedom of Movement, so no need to waste a buff on him there.

Air Walk is prefered as well, never touch the ground for to trigger traps.

Not on Lichaam's spell list, and it doesn't look like Quenly has it as a spell known.

If any of you can do communal resist energy that would be great, works with the cheap lesser extend metamagic rod, and very slot efficient.

I was thinking about that, too. Yanndu has Communal, and Quenly has the base Resist Energy. Lichaam only has the single-target one in his current spellbooks.

Stoneskin is good and affordable in Seeker level. I can pay for the diamond dust cost if anyone can spare the slot for Korin.

Now that one I can prepare. Lichaam just generally doesn't, because material costs.

Fly: A melee who don't have mean to fly, consumable included, after lv 9 should go back to Marcus' bootcamp. Korin rely on Monstrous Physique's fly speed to fly, and both MP1 and MP2 are mins/CL. Overland flight is 5th level, so Korin have a long way to go for that spell, and too cheap to scroll it everyday.

At this level, anyone who can't get off the ground in emergencies is probably living on borrowed time. But yes, melee badly needs to be able to close the gap with their targets.

Lichaam uses Overland Flight, but it's sadly a personal-target spell.

Do you want Lichaam to save a level 3 slot for Fly? It's only minutes/Level, but could still help.

*****

Note that Lichaam has the ability to, twice per day, activate a scroll at his own caster level (or possibly his CL+1, the ability's wording is lacking.) If anyone has a buff scroll collecting dust in the bottom of their backpack, he might be able to get you some use out of it.

Surprisingly, though Lichaam carries a lot of scrolls, he doesn't have any of Barkskin.

Hopefully Eadie can rejoin us before too long. We've not been going super fast.

If not, Quenly can melee at a push via some of his Many Forms options. Not unlike Korin, Quenly needs buff time to be really effective (and he's not likely to get close to true front-line output, but if an enemy doesn't have DR then 100+ damage per round is feasible.) A fairly standard preparation routine would be:
1. animate the animated shield (move), quicken bulls strength (swift), blessing of fervour or displacement (standard)
2. many forms into dragon/chimera/something else (standard), quicken divine favour (swift), move to engagement range to ideally full attack from round 3.

I think what would benefit us most, whether we are 4 or 5 PCs, would be creating the time to get buffs up before we tackle the target BBEGs. The current fight is rather an oddity - the warsworn seems to lack ranged attacks and its telekinesis hasn't budged Eadie, but we've not hit it with anything yet either. I don't expect the luxury of 2-3 rounds free buffing if we happen to walk in on Thurl.

ETA: I see I've missed the most recent gameplay updates, apologies.

Greater Magic Weapon I don't have that in my current spell books. I could put it there in 30 minutes (thanks to boon+feat+equipment), but that's still half an hour.

hour/CL +2/+2 for attack buff is on the same level of 5th level Hunter's Blessing. You have to make the call of whether you want to use the boon to do it or not.

Flying Do you want Lichaam to save a level 3 slot for Fly? It's only minutes/Level, but could still help.

There's no need. Korin will prepare himself a Air Walk then.

Stoneskin Now that one I can prepare. Lichaam just generally doesn't, because material costs.

*sprinkle diamond dust on Lichaam as he cast Stoneskin in the future for Korin* "Please~~~"

Resist Energy I was thinking about that, too. Yanndu has Communal, and Quenly has the base Resist Energy. Lichaam only has the single-target one in his current spellbooks.

I don't mean to sound bad but I feel like at this level you guys probably have way more lv2 spell slot than you are going to spent (since all the offensive stuff are outdated, all the defensive stuff have upgrade at higher spell level). A lv2 slot saved for Korin is a +4 Barkskin for Quenly should he want to try out melee.

1. animate the animated shield (move),.....

Unless you have some shield with very good special abilities on it, just drink Korin's Shield infusion extract for +4 Shield bonus before entering the door.

.....but if an enemy doesn't have DR .....

Despite having Apsu's Shining Scale on Korin's formula list, Korin have no way of making his natural weapon bypass cold iron DR, and I don't think you can either. Something we have to live with until Korin is rich enough for +1 Furious Inspiring AoM

@Lichaam @Quenly, something to think about, Shadow Evocation->Tiny Hunt instead of Arcane Bond-ing Magnificent Mansion.
And if we are resting, Shadow Conjuration->Spectral Scout to scout ahead please.

Yeah, Quenly's natural attacks don't pierce any DR just now. He's wearing a neck-slot item that's necessary to give him access to Greater Polymorph, so no AoMF. Although, if I planned to only use Small magical beast form Quenly could revert to his +1 Agile AoMF (he's still carrying it). Greater Magic Fang would help a bit.

Quenly's shield has Shadow on it. As a constant bonus I believe that's kept if the shield merges with him during a polymorph, but if not it's just a +5 Stealth bonus. Shield infusion is a good option to have available.

If Quenly refrains from more exotic shapeshifting and sticks to medium dragons to retain full spellcasting, he'll have access to Heal and Shadow Evocation for Telekinetic Charge, which I've found very effective in the past. Although Quenly can Still Spell to cast whilst in any form, this does deny access to level 6 spells and also means taking a full-round action to cast, so don't be more than 5' away if Quenly's a catoblepas and you need a Breath of Life :o

Note re: lower level slots, don't forget Quenly's Channel the Gift!

Lichaam wrote:

Greater Magic Weapon I don't have that in my current spell books. I could put it there in 30 minutes (thanks to boon+feat+equipment), but that's still half an hour.

hour/CL +2/+2 for attack buff is on the same level of 5th level Hunter's Blessing. You have to make the call of whether you want to use the boon to do it or not.

It's one of the boons that isn't limited-use, so that's not a problem. Time was my only concern there.

Grabbing a scroll of nap stack would take part of a limited-use boon, but I'm willing if we want to do that.

Lichaam wrote:

Resist Energy I was thinking about that, too. Yanndu has Communal, and Quenly has the base Resist Energy. Lichaam only has the single-target one in his current spellbooks.

I don't mean to sound bad but I feel like at this level you guys probably have way more lv2 spell slot than you are going to spent (since all the offensive stuff are outdated, all the defensive stuff have upgrade at higher spell level).

Lichaam's level 2 preps currently are:

Since it would take 5-6 casts to cover all the "real" party members (and that would kill Quenly's interpreter), that's pretty much one entire PC of 2nd-level spells. A single communal resist when we start getting near hot rooms seems more valuable.

Pseudo-pounce and teleport: You have already seem it in action, that Korin rely on Quidditch to teleport him around battlefield so that he can keep full attacking. That being said, Korin have encountered evil people that make teleportation magic/interplanar travel stop working in their home/lair. So Korin would prefer if we have way to send Korin right in the midst of bloodshed without using Conjuration(teleportation) magic. Maybe Telekinetic Charge?

I thought Yanndu mentioned TKCharge earlier?

@Lichaam @Quenly, something to think about, Shadow Evocation->Tiny Hunt instead of Arcane Bond-ing Magnificent Mansion.

That's a lot less secure than Magnificent Mansion, and doesn't come with food or beds. More importantly, the caster needs to stay inside the hut or it disappears.

Yeah, Quenly's natural attacks don't pierce any DR just now. He's wearing a neck-slot item that's necessary to give him access to Greater Polymorph, so no AoMF. Although, if I planned to only use Small magical beast form Quenly could revert to his +1 Agile AoMF (he's still carrying it). Greater Magic Fang would help a bit.

Surprisingly few demons have DR/Cold Iron. I did a quick skim a while back and think most were DR/Good or DR/Cold Iron and Good. Otherwise Lichaam would have brought in a couple of anti-fey spells like Iron Spine.

don't be more than 5' away if Quenly's a catoblepas and you need a Breath of Life :o

...that sounds like a terrible place to be.

Note re: lower level slots, don't forget Quenly's Channel the Gift!

True, but that's still a 3rd-level spell from you. If we're spending 3rd-level slots, getting the communal version seems like a better idea. Shorter duration, granted, which might matter if the "volcano" section is longer.

Also, I don't know about the spell usage of you guys, but Korin still have most of his extract ready. He used 2 lv2 slot for Alchemical Allocation when entering the maze and that's it. In other words, he have enough supplies to clear out a normal dungeon (assuming it can be cleared within 2 hour) and probably 1 big boss fight. So whether we want to keep going depends on how well the Warsworn fight goes, and you guys' high-level spell usage.

Also, I don't know about the spell usage of you guys, but Korin still have most of his extract ready. He used 2 lv2 slot for Alchemical Allocation when entering the maze and that's it. In other words, he have enough supplies to clear out a normal dungeon (assuming it can be cleared within 2 hour) and probably 1 big boss fight. So whether we want to keep going depends on how well the Warsworn fight goes, and you guys' high-level spell usage.

At the moment I'm fine. I only mention it because blowing spell slots like it's going out of style then resting would lower the risks in this fight.

When I make Quidditch ready his action, Yanndu, Eadie, and Quenly are on the left side of the Warsworn, which is why I want to teleport Korin to the right to flank with Eadie. I didn't know when did they all went there. Oh well.

Ready action does not trigger then

I may have misunderstood your intentions, sorry. But it was as easy for Quenly to fly over the warsworn and create the flank, and it looks like that's saved you a scroll.

I've moved tokens on the map, hopefully in the right places. Eadie should be Large now but I can't change her token's size.

"It was this, grease, or prismatic spray. I chose the spell that would definitely do something, and synergize well with Yanndu's stun attempt."

"Grease would likely not have prevented a trample, as that ability isn't actually a charge. Given how many parts of bodies the warsworn has apparently incorporated, the guideline about many-legged creatures being untrippable might also come into effect. Maybe. The wall seemed a safer course of action."

I already rolled the extra fire damage for this turn

Whoops. Ignore that, then. I'll still let the melee types take their swings before spending more resources, though. With over 200 damage on it already, I'd be surprised if they don't drop the warsworn this turn themselves.

Someone bot Eadie for her full attack?

Someone bot Eadie for her full attack?

Are we assuming her favored weapon, the falchion? Or her lucerne hammer, to beat DR? She'd need to step backwards if hammer.

If I'm reading the statblock right, +4.5 dmg/attack with falchion, and more importantly +6 attack, so that's probably prefered. I think her damage lines assume Power Attack, but the attack line does not. She's got Furious Focus, but that only affects the first attack.

So I think that after Enlarge Person the attack line would be:
+2 adamantine falchion +25/+16/+11 (2d6+9+12+2+2+3/15-20)
That includes:
Attack: PA-4, Furious Focus, BaB +13, Str +6, Size -1, magicWeapon +2, focus +1, greaterFocus +1, Weapon Training +3
Damage: (Str +6 *1.5), PA +12, magicWeapon +2, WeaponSpec +2, Weapon Training +3.

Does that look right?

Her other weapon would be:
+1 silvered lucerne hammer +19/+10/+5 (1d12+9+12+1)

Correction: That would be 3d6 on the Large lucerne hammer.

+2 adamantine falchion +25/+16/+11 (2d6+9+12+2+2+3/15-20)
+1 silvered lucerne hammer +19/+10/+5 (3d6+9+12+1)

Average 35-DR damage from the falchion, and 32.5 damage from the hammer.

I've never played with her, Eadie... would she use the bludgeoning reach weapon, or the slashing weapon she's better-trained with?

Go for falchion for the crit chance

Go for falchion for the crit chance

done and done sir!

I've never played with her, Eadie... would she use the bludgeoning reach weapon, or the slashing weapon she's better-trained with?

I've played lots with Eadie, and with her player. She very much favours the falchion, but will use other weapons and tools if they give the party better options (eg if attacking from reach will allow another PC to also melee). Eadie is nothing if not a team player.

Is it still up?

Also, what's the range on this monster's frightful presence? If it's not down yet, Lichaam is going to get within 30'. Shaken won't do that much to Lichaam, but the penalty to saves could matter.

Korin Rosenthal wrote:

Go for falchion for the crit chance

Eadie Navhelan wrote:

falchion vs warsworn, haste, power attack, furious focus, flank: 1d20 + 25 + 1 + 2 ⇒ (20) + 25 + 1 + 2 = 48

Told you so. It's all calculated. *tap forehead*

Should have brought Soul stimulant, oh well.
Does the oracle have way to remove negative level?

Should have brought Soul stimulant, oh well.

Does the oracle have way to remove negative level?

I'd be willing to donate 100gp of diamond dust to the cause.

Korin Rosenthal wrote:

Should have brought Soul stimulant, oh well.

Does the oracle have way to remove negative level?

I'd be willing to donate 100gp of diamond dust to the cause.

Thanks for the offering, but there's no need. I just realized that Korin still have a scroll of Restoration left over from his previous mission. He can just use that.

Lichaam Pisell wrote:

Korin Rosenthal wrote:

Should have brought Soul stimulant, oh well.

Does the oracle have way to remove negative level?

I'd be willing to donate 100gp of diamond dust to the cause.

Thanks for the offering, but there's no need. I just realized that Korin still have a scroll of Restoration left over from his previous mission. He can just use that.

I've got a scroll of restoration as well (the cheaper variant), and was going to edit that in. But that's still 800gp. If Quenly wants to spend a slot, that would save someone 700gp.

Actually... how much did you pay for that scroll? The "remove temporary negative levels" version only costs 800gp, rather than the 1700gp "remove a permanent negative level" version.

Actually... how much did you pay for that scroll? The "remove temporary negative levels" version only costs 800gp, rather than the 1700gp "remove a permanent negative level" version.

800gp, the cheap version. If Quenly have Restoration as spell known then Korin also have the diamond dust as the material component.

Lichaam Pisel wrote:

Actually... how much did you pay for that scroll? The "remove temporary negative levels" version only costs 800gp, rather than the 1700gp "remove a permanent negative level" version.

800gp, the cheap version. If Quenly have Restoration as spell known then Korin also have the diamond dust as the material component.

Just checking. I think the restoration items found on chronicles are mostly (or all) the expensive version.

Quenly will happily pop a Restoration spell, using Korin's diamond dust, as soon as he reverts to elf-shape (which is very soon as he'll not spend more than 1 minute polymorphed).

I'm assuming Lichaam's Knowledges are good enough to know Thurl is a dwarf, despite never actually meeting the guy.

EDIT: Especially with the description he was given for his scrying attempts.