
EltonJ |

I think the naked trop is fine. Though I feel like in old sci-fi trop is sometimes an excuse to introduce over sexual content. Which on its own isn't bad, but again it's sometimes an excuse for some sexist things.
As long as its treated well, I see zero issue with the trope. Plus being an android my character won't deal with anything too "weird".
I expect that the naked culture on board ship will be like that at a clothing optional resort. Family friendly. If any of you are thinking this game is a sexfest, then I suggest you find a different game. Their can be some romance, but nudity in most science fiction goes par for the course. I'm being very brave to run this with the nudity angle, but as long as it stays family friendly, Paizo shouldn't have a problem with it.
I am excited to see how this all works out! Going to be fun diving into the ship. Will have to get a debrief on what our characters know.
I provide a debriefing after character selection.
Thanks again for running this. I will work on transferring my character to an actual Alias soon.
Small note. I traded out the infrared sensors for an engineering kit and some healing "potions". Will include all fixes in my alias.
Nice.

MordredofFairy |
MordredofFairy wrote:You can use the COM to make your Envoy. Reviewing the options now. So far that's four people.For the record - I was considering Human or Lashunta - going Envoy, Operative or Witchwarper.
Currently tend towards Human Envoy.
The COM? Elaborate, please? Character Operations Manual? If so, yeah, I am drawing on the listed sources...
@No sexfest: What? Why? Just Kidding.
@Nudity normal: Aye, it should not be such an issue as it is.
That said, universal nudity by default is "family friendly". Because, you know, grandpa is nude, mommy is nude, your little brothers and sisters are nude. Nothing sexual about that.
But e.g. one factor of clothing is "individuality", a means of expressing oneself, of identifying members of a similar sub-culture, etc...it is also a means of comfortable transporting small items, or technically shielding oneself(e.g. there are always perverts - if someone is oogling you, it's easier to try and sit in a different way or close a blouse - if you are stark naked you'll need another way of dealing with undesired attention.)
All in all, I simply think it allows for a very different "outlook" from a characters point of view.
Doubly so if there are chances for it to matter.(e.g. going scouting to an earth-like planet and find it both inhabitated and in comfortable temperature range. Chances are if there are seasons, clothing may be a thing(or the colonists may be religious zealots) - so having the away party casually strip down nude first thing after getting invited inside may be a bit of a social faux pas that could be great fun resolving in game :) )

EltonJ |

The COM? Elaborate, please? Character Operations Manual? If so, yeah, I am drawing on the listed sources...
Yes, the C.haracter O.perations M.anual. ;)
@No sexfest: What? Why? Just Kidding.
@Nudity normal: Aye, it should not be such an issue as it is.
That said, universal nudity by default is "family friendly". Because, you know, grandpa is nude, mommy is nude, your little brothers and sisters are nude. Nothing sexual about that.
But e.g. one factor of clothing is "individuality", a means of expressing oneself, of identifying members of a similar sub-culture, etc...it is also a means of comfortable transporting small items, or technically shielding oneself(e.g. there are always perverts - if someone is oogling you, it's easier to try and sit in a different way or close a blouse - if you are stark naked you'll need another way of dealing with undesired attention.)
All in all, I simply think it allows for a very different "outlook" from a characters point of view.
Of course, clothing is used to adorn the body. And, yes, it's a way to express individuality. My wife expresses her's by being naked. (I'm a nudist in real life, and so is my wife).

EltonJ |

Yeah, I almost don't want to play an Android just to get in on the awkwardness xD
Unrelated:
Remember, boobs are the breast way to feed babies.Also, does everyone have a comm unit? :3
Comm Unit
A personal comm unit is pocket-sized device that combines
a minor portable computer (treat as a tier-0 computer with no
upgrades or modules) and a cellular communication device,
allowing wireless communication with other comm units in both
audio- and text-based formats at planetary range (see page 272).
A personal comm unit also includes a calculator, a flashlight
(increases the light level one step in a 15-foot cone), and several
entertainment options (including games and access to any local
infospheres). You can upgrade a personal comm unit to function
as some other devices (such as full computers and scanners) by
spending credits equal to 110% of the additional device’s price.
Comm units that function at system-wide and unlimited
ranges aren’t as portable; they include built-in generators that
provide the necessary amount of power. Short-term use of these
units can be purchased in most major settlements (see page 234).
See page 430 for more about Pact Worlds communications
Priced at 7 credits. Should be easy to pick up a personal comm unit. If not, it's part of your exploration package.

EltonJ |

Or, for those of us who are Androids and not in need of an armor upgrade slot: Infosphere Integration :3
Also, I hope we can all get implanted comms someday for maximum no-need-for-pockets :D
It'll be like casting Telepathy on the whole team xD
Hmm. Are implanted comm units found in the Armory or the Main Book?

MordredofFairy |
I have one more question regarding a setting aspect:
How does the "Exploration Team" work with the Caste System?
Is it something 'desirable', where those of high social status "serve" the ship in a somewhat interesting position?
Or is it something dangerous, where people from the lower social echelons get drafted into service?
I could see it work both ways, really.
I mean, if there's Red Shirt rates of lethality, the rich won't line up, while it may offer a way out of the recycling plants for the untouchables.
If there's prestige, bounties, and little actual work, it could be the other way round, where the social elite distribute the limited positions among themselves, never leaving a chance for the lower end of the spectrum.
(For the record, I was envisioning the former in my mind - but figured I'll ask before deciding I'm a Street Rat from the lowest caste-)

EltonJ |

I have one more question regarding a setting aspect:
How does the "Exploration Team" work with the Caste System?Is it something 'desirable', where those of high social status "serve" the ship in a somewhat interesting position?
Or is it something dangerous, where people from the lower social echelons get drafted into service?I could see it work both ways, really.
I mean, if there's Red Shirt rates of lethality, the rich won't line up, while it may offer a way out of the recycling plants for the untouchables.
If there's prestige, bounties, and little actual work, it could be the other way round, where the social elite distribute the limited positions among themselves, never leaving a chance for the lower end of the spectrum.(For the record, I was envisioning the former in my mind - but figured I'll ask before deciding I'm a Street Rat from the lowest caste-)
The explorer teams often find themselves in dangerous territory. If an Earth-like planet is found, the explorer teams are dispatched to see if the planet is suitable for colonization. Its there that they often have to deal with the native lifeforms. Some of which are fantastical as those found in the alien archives. Sometimes, explorer teams might not make it back. Other times they have, and recommended the planet for colonization.
It's a way to earn fame and fortune. But it's dangerous work that the rich might not sign on to.

EltonJ |
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EltonJ wrote:Are implanted comm units found in the Armory or the Main Book?After looking, I realized I can't find 'em. Perhaps I confused the Mechanic's Custom Rig with a cybernetic implant? Oh well...
It doesn't mean we can invent them. Although I don't know why anyone would want a cellphone underneath their skin.

MordredofFairy |
Well, I figured we get a smartwatch - at least my personal communicator will be one. Fancy wrist ornaments are a thing even with no pockets. And Holotech keeps the size small :P
That said, regarding inventions, I seriously hope we have better versions of "Second Skin" armor lined up for later :) Otherwise I'll never get to upgrade(but happy there's an armor that more-or-less supports nudism.)
That said, I'm doing fine without pockets so far - if I get to leave most of my hygiene kit in a bag.
@Expression: Aye, but if EVERYBODY was a nudist, you would no longer be able to express individuality that way - which was my point :) I figure hairstyles, piercings and/or accessories will be a big part of being individuals - maybe more permanent aspects like tattoos/brandings/scarification as well - or certain bodymods(snake tongue, bumbs under the skin, skin grafts...) - doesn't help that a "Serum of Appearance Change" is actually quite affordable and basically allows everybody that cares to more or less look their best.

EltonJ |

Well, I figured we get a smartwatch - at least my personal communicator will be one. Fancy wrist ornaments are a thing even with no pockets. And Holotech keeps the size small :P
Well, I'm talking about implantable comm units with my live group. And they have their opinions.
That said, regarding inventions, I seriously hope we have better versions of "Second Skin" armor lined up for later :) Otherwise I'll never get to upgrade(but happy there's an armor that more-or-less supports nudism.)
Yep second skin lets you get away with nudism. I'd say there are better versions. No reason not to "invent" upgrades.
That said, I'm doing fine without pockets so far - if I get to leave most of my hygiene kit in a bag.
@Expression: Aye, but if EVERYBODY was a nudist, you would no longer be able to express individuality that way - which was my point :) I figure hairstyles, piercings and/or accessories will be a big part of being individuals - maybe more permanent aspects like tattoos/brandings/scarification as well - or certain bodymods(snake tongue, bumbs under the skin, skin grafts...) - doesn't help that a "Serum of Appearance Change" is actually quite affordable and basically allows everybody that cares to more or less look their best.
Yep.

C'tikt-6 |

This is the Alias for NeoEvaX's Character.
Thank you for the reminder on the Comm unit. I added it in too.
I am curious how it will go down while on the ship itself. I figure we could always get permissions to wear something on the ship itself. However it works I am excited to see it through. Hopefully we are force to not wear armor, that might mess with some of us.

EltonJ |

This is the Alias for NeoEvaX's Character.
Thank you for the reminder on the Comm unit. I added it in too.
I am curious how it will go down while on the ship itself. I figure we could always get permissions to wear something on the ship itself. However it works I am excited to see it through. Hopefully we are force to not wear armor, that might mess with some of us.
They'll accept Second Skin. Anything else and you will be seen as weird.

MordredofFairy |
@Ctikt: Also note that "on the ship" is not "on a mission".
If we are away on a planet, chances are the environment is not as friendly, and wearing something is the smart choice.
(as usually is for diverse kinds of work that may need protective gear of some sort).
On the ship, I am perfectly comfortable being naturally nude.
The second skin is for away missions only :) (unless something comes up that makes it "advisable" to wear on the ship - e.g. we expect trouble.)
I choose it because I feel my character will be most "comfortable" in it. Protective armor is one thing, but she is not a soldier first and foremost. So that seems like a great compromise between not being completely vulnerable and still being in a "comfort zone".
(Kinda like steel-tipped security shoes. They are still shoes, not armored greaves+plate boots, but at the same time much better than sandals at protecting your feet.)

EltonJ |

Just stumbled upon this by sheer chance and damn this looks like a game I'd enjoy. Really a huge fan of the reference material you've noted. So my question is, do you still need another player? If so, I'll read the thread in more detail and I might submit something ^^
Feel free to submit.

EltonJ |

Great, I'll think of something. What type of mythology/culture developed on the ship? I'm juggling with a few concepts, including some kind of priest (ala Foundation's tech-priests), or perhaps even a scholar of whatever kind of culture there is, but it would be helpful to know a bit more about it.
Well, I haven't developed the culture aboard ship yet. In many ways they are like our own. There is sixty seconds to a minute, sixty minutes to an hour, and twenty-four hours to a day. The ship has artificial gravity. The temperature on board ship is a constant 75 degrees Fahrenheit (24 degrees Celsius).
The largest repository of knowledge, comparable to the Library of Alexandria, is found at the Solarian Temple. Ancient texts are found there dating right to launch.

C'tikt-6 |

I like the Library idea. I do think that C'tikt-6 assumes all of the knowlege is in within the ship itself. The technology holds more experience and power than the records. Something about an object having history and having power flow through it gives it power.. But that is Technomancerness for you.
Me as a player is interested though :)

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I like the Library idea. I do think that C'tikt-6 assumes all of the knowlege is in within the ship itself. The technology holds more experience and power than the records. Something about an object having history and having power flow through it gives it power.. But that is Technomancerness for you.
Me as a player is interested though :)
That could make for some interesting character interaction. With C'tikt searching for knowledge within his environment, and other people looking for knowledge by searching the past and the records. I'll see if I can come up with something interesting in that regard.

EltonJ |

Indeed, the repository sounds interesting. Do they have any people working there full-time? Like archivists and whatnot? Is the library fully accessible to the general public, or are some areas/particular texts prohibited (as far as the public is aware, anyway)?
Some texts are only for solarians to view. It's how the temple controls knowledge. Knowledge is power, so they keep some texts hidden from the Masses. ("You can't handle the truth!") However, a revolution in knowledge is coming.

Alyson Reed |

Mordred here.
Still work in progress(e.g. I just have some notes for background jotted down and will need to write it), but here's my Envoy just so you can list her proper :)
I present Alyson Viridia Hau Pepelu Viktualia Tesla Saillune-Reed,
or Alyson for friends.
(As she's trying to avoid having to work in the recycling plants, I focused on the more practical aspects and avoided theoretical knowledge she would have had no means or need to acquire. I figured that also fits well with our more science-savvy androids. I do plan on picking up computers and Medicine later on, but for a starter, stuff like Sleight of Hand seemed more likely -)

Chris Banks |

Quite interested, if I haven't missed the boat on this one. It'll probably take me a couple of days to work up a character sheet, but I'll be writing up a Witchwarper with reformist (if not downright revolutionary) tendencies. Catching occasional glimpses of alternate realities does give potential insights into how the world might be different after all.

EltonJ |

Quite interested, if I haven't missed the boat on this one. It'll probably take me a couple of days to work up a character sheet, but I'll be writing up a Witchwarper with reformist (if not downright revolutionary) tendencies. Catching occasional glimpses of alternate realities does give potential insights into how the world might be different after all.
You haven't missed the boat, although I'm looking for five players in this case. Go ahead and feel free to submit!

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So, little update. As per our discussion I had considered building some kind of archivist or scholar, but I saw that M has a pretty similar backstory, and I really don't want to step on her toes, so I've been looking for further inspiration.
I was inspired by this post as well as Foundation's tech-priest, as mentioned earlier. With your permission, of course, I thought I could try to build a concept around some kind of space mythology; perhaps the ship's mythology, after all these generations, would have developed into some kind of religion involving supernatural space entities, and beliefs of cosmic phenomena with god-like powers. Mechanically speaking, the character would probably be a Star Shaman Mystic.
Let me know what you all think!

Alyson Reed |

I think we may need Gellar Fields installed on our ship, even if they are not a listed reference point.
Also, some more background added.
Since we are past the 5 people threshold, I'd also like to state that I would never have noticed this(not checking recruitment these days) if not for NeoEvax bringing it to my attention.
As consequence, I would consider us a unidirectional package deal. That is, you pick him and not Alyson, fine. You pick us both, fine. You pick only Alyson, I would step down in his favor. Just FYI.
(I did get invested in the concept and excited to try Starfinder, but it would feel wrong to do so if the person directly responsible for this chance, who brought us in to make this happen(and probably also caused some additional attention through our posts) would be excluded. Not sure if that makes sense, but I hope it does).

EltonJ |

I liked NeoEvaX's submission, but I'm not approving as I go. He won't be excluded, I can tell you that. Although I can usually tell if someone isn't as interested as they say they are. And NeoEvaX is definitely interested, he even went so far as making an alias and posting as that alias.
So, little update. As per our discussion I had considered building some kind of archivist or scholar, but I saw that M has a pretty similar backstory, and I really don't want to step on her toes, so I've been looking for further inspiration.
I was inspired by this post as well as Foundation's tech-priest, as mentioned earlier. With your permission, of course, I thought I could try to build a concept around some kind of space mythology; perhaps the ship's mythology, after all these generations, would have developed into some kind of religion involving supernatural space entities, and beliefs of cosmic phenomena with god-like powers. Mechanically speaking, the character would probably be a Star Shaman Mystic.
Let me know what you all think!
I like it. A mystic would be a fine addition.

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I like it. A mystic would be a fine addition.
Great, I'll start working on that! Though one last question to write a convincing backstory:

ScegfOd |

I'd also like to point out that C'tikt-6's player also runs games ^^
So, little update. As per our discussion I had considered building some kind of archivist or scholar, but I saw that M has a pretty similar backstory, and I really don't want to step on her toes, so I've been looking for further inspiration.
I was inspired by this post as well as Foundation's tech-priest, as mentioned earlier. With your permission, of course, I thought I could try to build a concept around some kind of space mythology; perhaps the ship's mythology, after all these generations, would have developed into some kind of religion involving supernatural space entities, and beliefs of cosmic phenomena with god-like powers. Mechanically speaking, the character would probably be a Star Shaman Mystic.
Let me know what you all think!
That's very thoughtful ^^
Also, with all this interest, I'll have to finish M's backstory xD
edit: There wasn't anything important missing that I could tell, so I just cleaned up Emerald Eyes's backstory without really adding to it xD

Alyson Reed |

Not asking to pre-approve. Just locking that decision in so I am not tempted to act against my principles just in case, later :)
If I do step down, thats also not an auto-pass for him, maybe you'd choose someone else entirely if more people show interest. Just saying it would feel wrong for me to play if he is not in - I would feel guilty in a way and not really enjoy it because I would feel I took this chance from him.
As for profile: Guilty, I re-used an previously used profile - but otherwise I would likely create a profile and link it without posting - that allows to "scrap" it again to avoid avatar clutter. Since all the profiles are listed on the pull-downs etc, it simply seems desirable to not overextend :)
But yeah, Neo advertised this in his own games, so interest is definitely strong in him.

EltonJ |

EltonJ wrote:I like it. A mystic would be a fine addition.Great, I'll start working on that! Though one last question to write a convincing backstory:
Since we've talked about Foundation's priests, how do you want to handle the Mystic's powers? Obviously, he is gonna believe his powers come from a cosmic entity or whatnot, but what is it actually? Does his powers really come from a god, or is this some kind of ruse and his powers actually come from tech within the ship, or something else entirely?
His powers come from his faith in a god, whether or not he was ordained to a priesthood or not.
I usually downplay the gods when running science fiction. Although in my Orcs vs. Elves Pathfinder game, I tell my players that the orcs are animistic while the elves are deistic. In Science Fiction however, there isn't a lot of faith except in Science. So again, I run the gods as if they are aloof in a science fiction setting. With some exceptions. Like if a mystic (or solarian) declares that he represents the "Overseer" of his particular batch of people (see Human Reality, chapter 8). That usually does not happen in hard SF or even soft SF. There is an exception, however. Someone did write a science fiction series with a Mythology in mind. I don't remember the name of the series, however.

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His powers come from his faith in a god, whether or not he was ordained to a priesthood or not.I usually downplay the gods when running science fiction. Although in my Orcs vs. Elves Pathfinder game, I tell my players that the orcs are animistic while the elves are deistic. In Science Fiction however, there isn't a lot of faith except in Science. So again, I run the gods as if they are aloof in a science fiction setting. With some exceptions. Like if a mystic (or solarian) declares that he represents the "Overseer" of his particular batch of people (see Human Reality, chapter 8). That usually does not happen in hard SF or even soft SF. There is an exception, however. Someone did write a science fiction series with a Mythology in mind. I don't remember the name of the series, however.
Mhmm, I quite agree with the interpretation. Although from my point of view one's faith in a celestial entity does not necessarily contradict faith in science, in particular in science fiction settings; hard to argue against science when you're on a ship floating through space containing a massive library of scientific knowledge. But 'believing' in science does not prohibit one from believing some superior entity exists, or even that it is the source of such science (same goes for the scientist; hard to argue gods don't exist when you have priests shooting magic missiles out of sheer faith)
That's probably the angle I'm gonna go with: faith in a celestial entity, but obviously still a firm believer in science

EltonJ |

Not asking to pre-approve. Just locking that decision in so I am not tempted to act against my principles just in case, later :)
If I do step down, thats also not an auto-pass for him, maybe you'd choose someone else entirely if more people show interest. Just saying it would feel wrong for me to play if he is not in - I would feel guilty in a way and not really enjoy it because I would feel I took this chance from him.As for profile: Guilty, I re-used an previously used profile - but otherwise I would likely create a profile and link it without posting - that allows to "scrap" it again to avoid avatar clutter. Since all the profiles are listed on the pull-downs etc, it simply seems desirable to not overextend :)
But yeah, Neo advertised this in his own games, so interest is definitely strong in him.
Alrighty. Noted.

ScegfOd |

That's probably the angle I'm gonna go with: faith in a celestial entity, but obviously still a firm believer in science
Speaking of faith and science, how many people have repeated the results of published papers?
Those who haven't tested/applied every scientific model that they've ever accepted as true have at least having some amount of faith in at least some scientists.(to be fair, it's usually a good bet when less accurate models of the data die off over time. Interestingly, those less useful models usually don't disappear before their proponents...)
Now that I've written that all out, it feels like faith in science is a thing they'd feature as a plot in a star trek episode...