[Gameday VIII] Hao Jin Cataclysm - GM Thread (Inactive)

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    Grand Lodge

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    GM questions, discussion, and collaboration should go here.

    Grand Lodge

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    Hello, GMs! Please dot into the Gameplay thread and delete your post (to keep the thread clean), if you have not done so yet. This will help me keep track of who has checked in here.

    Your tentative tier assignments can be found on the GM Tiers & Links, linked at the top of this page. Once you have created your table, please put links to your Discussion and Gameplay threads on the 'Links' tab of that same document. Feel free to alter how I have your GM alias listed as well, if it's not right.


    Hell's Vengeance | Sewer Dragons of Absalom

    @GM Dennis - If you could set the sharing permissions on the spreadsheet to 'Edit', folks can add their links.

    @Everyone - Additionally, for several other MTS I've been part of on the forums we've been lucky enough to have a few folks bored enough helpful enough to extract maps and make a set of 'master slides' that all GMs can use to quickly set up an encounter. I can certainly help again with this - is anyone else interested? If we divide up the labor, nobody need feel silly for doing redundant work. (Granted, all this has to wait for the PDFs to land in folks' inboxes.)


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM

    @GM Dennis: where's the player signup sheet for these tables? (or do we have to go recruit on Flaxseed?) Thx! I'm guessing we're only creating the campaign threads / building the infrastructure at this point yes?

    Grand Lodge

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    @Hawthwile: Thanks, done.

    @PDK: Don't recruit yet. There will be player signups for Gameday as a whole later one (and GMs will get first crack at it, I believe). Just set up your table for now.

    Silver Crusade

    Want to try PbF on RPGG? Check out my profile for more info!

    I believe Hilary will open up player signups for GMs on the 8th July. GMs will be restricted to signing up early to a single game. Then when full signups open up later (12th July), GMs are free to sign up for extras per the same restrictions as everyone else (ie max 3 game limit until July 22nd)

    Shadow Lodge

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    GM PDK wrote:
    @GM Dennis: where's the player signup sheet for these tables?

    Player signup link.


    Automaton Forge Maps

    Reporting in for tier 3-4!

    Is there any reason we shouldn't share the maps around if we have them now? I GM'd this last October.

    Grand Lodge

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    howdy. looking forward to trying this out on discord.

    Grand Lodge

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    @TOZ: Thanks. I'd missed that page being up already.

    @Netherpongo: If you want to put together a slide deck and link it here, I'm sure other folks would appreciate it.

    Shadow Lodge

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    I will gladly steal- I mean, crib off others work.

    My game link should be up tonight after we finish moving the house.


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM
    GM Dennis wrote:

    @Hawthwile: Thanks, done.

    @PDK: Don't recruit yet. There will be player signups for Gameday as a whole later one (and GMs will get first crack at it, I believe). Just set up your table for now.

    @Dennis: when do you expect we'll be provided the scenario for prep? (I know it's early) Also, as TOZ said, have the game slides been put together by someone already perchance?

    Edit: campaign pages complete.


    How would you prefer that sheet be filled out for games NOT run on the Paizo boards? It asks for links to the gameplay/discussion threads, but not everyone will have those immediately.

    I know on Myth-Weavers, we tend to start with a separate recruitment thread, and only create the gameplay/discussion threads shortly before the game actually starts.


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM
    Woodenman wrote:
    I believe Hilary will open up player signups for GMs on the 8th July. GMs will be restricted to signing up early to a single game. Then when full signups open up later (12th July), GMs are free to sign up for extras per the same restrictions as everyone else (ie max 3 game limit until July 22nd)

    Will participating in a Core game count towards the 3 game limit?

    Grand Lodge

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    GM PDK wrote:
    @Dennis: when do you expect we'll be provided the scenario for prep? (I know it's early)

    Scenario support has been submitted; beyond that, I can't say when the scenario will be dropped. It's often 2-3 weeks before the event.

    GM PDK wrote:
    Also, as TOZ said, have the game slides been put together by someone already perchance?

    I do not believe anyone has put the slides together yet. That won't take long, though, once the scenarios have been dropped.

    shaventalz wrote:

    How would you prefer that sheet be filled out for games NOT run on the Paizo boards? It asks for links to the gameplay/discussion threads, but not everyone will have those immediately.

    I know on Myth-Weavers, we tend to start with a separate recruitment thread, and only create the gameplay/discussion threads shortly before the game actually starts.

    Is there any reason you can't create the table earlier, even if that's not normally how you do things? I'd like to be able to post a list as part of set-up of this thread. Aside from putting it on the list, it will be important to have it up a little early, so that we can do the mustering part of the special and have everything ready to go with the beginning of the action on day 1.


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    Automaton Forge Maps

    stuff is here


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM
    GM Netherpongo wrote:
    stuff is here

    Thank you Sir! :)


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    I've got my IC/OOC threads up.


    The Deepmarket Deception Games I've Played (Session Tracker)

    I've got my threads created and added to the spreadsheet and I have 2 questions.

    1.) Did early signup for GM's open up yesterday? I didn't see an announcement but I suppose there might not have been/be an announcement beyond the first.

    2.) My table will very likely be tier 1-2 but because I'm trying to keep as much of a group together as possible and they're not all the same level, is there an option to have a 3rd or 4th level character at a tier 1-2 table? I've played these specials before but never run one so I'm not sure about those details.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Signups for GMs are live. You can add yourself to the spreadsheet I linked above, just remember you can only have the couple tables at the moment.


    Checking in. I will be on Mythweavers, but run the game from a linked thread group. I'll post the links when I've created the game.

    Grand Lodge

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    @EbonFist:

    1) As TOZ said, GM signups are currently open. You are limited to one game for now, though.

    2) Characters can play down in an adjacent subtier, so level 3/4 in 1/2 is ok. Just make sure your tier is correct for the APL of your group.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Oh, I missed the one table limit for GM signups. Glad I only did the one!


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM

    Oops... deleting... tables... now... {it hurts....}

    Grand Lodge

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    I got further clarification from Hmm:

    - One table on the FCFS list.
    - You can submit for as many of the 'other' games as you'd like, since those recruitments won't fill up before others have a chance at them.

    Grand Lodge

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    Are there criteria for "Other Recruitment" or do we look for them in the main Recruitment thread?

    Grand Lodge

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    The GM of each game on that tab set their own criteria. Once they're ready, they are supposed to post a recruitment link where they explain how to sign up.


    The Burden of Envy - (Slides |Gameplay)

    Reporting for a standard 1-2 tier table.


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM

    So other than the Hao Jin special we can sign for the other games listed on that spreadsheet? what's the way to tell if those games can be signed up for or not?

    PS: in the spreadsheet, please summarize the tabs containing games we can sign for. Thx!


    @GM Aerondor - I was looking at your sign up for the PF2 game and it's already got 5 players. Are they all GMs? I was hoping to secure a spot in your game, but I will probably be on an airplane the night the sign-ups begin. Are you allowing people to reserve a spot?

    Thanks.

    Shadow Lodge

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    If someone could update my GM name to this alias on the signup sheet I would appreciate it.

    Grand Lodge

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    @PDK: You can sign up for one game on the FCFS sheet (look at the tabs on the bottom); signing up as a player for Hao Jin Cataclysm would count as your one. There's no limit to the games you can sign up for on the 'Other' sheet.

    @TOZ: I'll pass that along.


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    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM

    I think I'm only showing at one table now i.e. 'Debt to the Quah'. Let me know if you still see something else on your end.

    Grand Lodge

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    FYI, player signups are now open. You may sign up for up to 3 games on the FCFS tab. Unlimited signups will open on July 22nd, though I would encourage you to exercise restraint while you're GMing a PbP special.


    Automaton Forge Maps

    Added my gameplay and discussion thread links.

    Silver Crusade

    Added my links.


    GM Brew reporting in for standard tier 3-4! Sorry for my delay, was out of town for a week and just got back. Links are posted and ready for action, captain.

    RPG Superstar 2014 Top 4, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

    Hey folks! Dennis let me know you all were running this for the upcoming Gameday, which is excellent. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.


    Knowledge Checks || Honor's Echo || TotIM

    Hi Mike! honored to have you in our thread fielding questions!

    We don't have the module yet, but if you want to PM us the Adventure Background, it would be cool to start reading on the elements, places and NPCs featured in this adventure.

    Q: can this GM thread only be viewed by us or could some scallywag players lurk in here and read what's being said? if so, is there a way we will be able to discuss with you without the players viewing?

    Grand Lodge

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    There's some background to be found on the product page:

    Product page wrote:

    Many centuries ago, the legendary sorceress Hao Jin crafted a museum demiplane, ripping locations from across Golarion to add to her personal collection. When she vanished without a trace, the demiplane began falling into disrepair. Ever since the Pathfinder Society gained access to this realm seven years ago, its agents have been gradually exploring the demiplane's wonders, meeting its people, and cataloging its preserved historical relics.

    Former Pathfinder Master of Spells Aram Zey has just made a terrible discovery—the demiplane's deterioration has reached a critical stage. Unless the Pathfinder Society intervenes, the entire demiplane will rip apart violently, ejecting most of its contents into the Astral Plane and killing everyone inside. Yet it isn't as simple as sewing the demiplane back together with some metaphysical thread. Powerful forces from both within the tapestry and outside of it seek to hasten the destruction or profit off the chaos, and the impending apocalypse has thrown the tapestry's civilizations into turmoil.

    As for players seeing this, there's no way to protect the thread from being seen. I haven't publicly linked this thread anywhere, so they'd have to go looking for it. That said, just like how there's no way to stop a player from buying and reading a scenario before playing it, at some point we have to just trust our players not to spoil things.


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    It does say "GM Thread" right there in the title. I'd imagine the thread should follow the same rules on spoilers as anything in the GM Discussion forum - that is, there WILL be spoilers, and they WILL be unmarked.

    For instance, the giant zombie Aroden in act 3.

    RPG Superstar 2014 Top 4, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 32

    Thanks for posting the background info, Dennis.

    Even in the product itself, the background info covers things in fairly broad strokes. Because it's an interactive special, there are many different paths players might take, so covering all the specific NPCs and locations in the background would take too much space (and too many precious words). I printed an entire bulky 3-ring binder worth of past scenarios when doing research for this scenario.

    For now I'll just say that the PCs visit many locations that they may have visited before, and that some NPCs respond differently if the PCs have certain chronicle sheets from Hao Jin Tapestry adventures... sometimes in helpful ways, and sometimes not! If you're wondering about specific NPCs or scenarios, let me know.

    Grand Lodge

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    Ah, interesting. Should we be inquiring with our players for certain chronicle sheets early on to be prepped for that?

    I'm managing a low tier game so i'm probably in no danger of that.


    The Deepmarket Deception Games I've Played (Session Tracker)
    Mike Kimmel wrote:

    Thanks for posting the background info, Dennis.

    Even in the product itself, the background info covers things in fairly broad strokes. Because it's an interactive special, there are many different paths players might take, so covering all the specific NPCs and locations in the background would take too much space (and too many precious words). I printed an entire bulky 3-ring binder worth of past scenarios when doing research for this scenario.

    For now I'll just say that the PCs visit many locations that they may have visited before, and that some NPCs respond differently if the PCs have certain chronicle sheets from Hao Jin Tapestry adventures... sometimes in helpful ways, and sometimes not! If you're wondering about specific NPCs or scenarios, let me know.

    I need that binder!

    I recently started a campaign trying to run as many people through as many Hao Jin related scenarios as possible but it's hard to figure out exactly what they are. We've played "Icebound Outpost" and "The Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment" and are working on "Severing Ties," now.

    If you happen to have a list of the scenarios you're referencing, and will share it, I'll be your best friend for life.

    Shadow Lodge

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    It might not be fully up to date, but this thread has some lists.


    The Deepmarket Deception Games I've Played (Session Tracker)
    Grandmaster TOZ wrote:
    It might not be fully up to date, but this thread has some lists.

    That's the one I've been working off of, but it only goes up to Season 4 and I assume there is more scattered through the other seasons. I know there were a few in Season 10 though I think they have either Hao Jin or Tapestry in the title so they'll be easy enough to find.

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    GM Weenerton wrote:
    Ah, interesting. Should we be inquiring with our players for certain chronicle sheets early on to be prepped for that?

    The adventure includes a handout for players to check off which relevant scenarios their character has completed so that the GM has access to this information at-a-glance.

    EbonFist wrote:

    If you happen to have a list of the scenarios you're referencing, and will share it, I'll be your best friend for life.

    I referenced events from many scenarios, and any that are related to the Tapestry are at least a little relevant to The Hao Jin Cataclysm, but the ones that can influence certain NPCs or events are:

    Spoiler:
    #3-12, #3-14, #3-20, #3-21, #3-22, #6-21, and #6-97.
    EbonFist wrote:
    I know there were a few in Season 10 though I think they have either Hao Jin or Tapestry in the title so they'll be easy enough to find.

    Yes, although anything from Season 10 happens after the events of The Hao Jin Cataclysm, and hadn't been written yet when I was working on this.

    Shadow Lodge

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    Is it still early to ask about scenario drop?


    The Deepmarket Deception Games I've Played (Session Tracker)
    Grandmaster TOZ wrote:
    Is it still early to ask about scenario drop?

    I suspect you are about a month too early.

    I haven't run one of these before but from chatter I've seen, it's usually only a week or so before the Gameday starts that they start dropping scenarios.

    Grand Lodge

    The Disappeared | Curious Claim || Spell Templates

    From memory it's usually a little more than that, but yes I would be shocked if this were dropped before GenCon. Tonya is likely a little busy at the moment.

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