Journal: 1 lb, she's not giving that up.
Backpack: 2 lb, required for journal.
Water skin: 4 lb, (half gallon of water). She'd be okay with this.
Belt pouch: 1/2, required for there's tools.
Thieves tools: 2 lbs, adds a ton of effort to pass off.
Armor and Weapon: 22 lbs. Have to carry it.
It's kind of ridiculous how much better off mouse would be as a dual wielder. She'd have about six more pounds of carrying capacity, do more damage (much more) at higher levels, gain flexibility (throwing)... and would have a skill focus feat. Or... she can have a subpar, really cool weapon.
Soooo, in short, Mouse could really only give up her water skin.
Also, Mouse doesn't have any rations. Like an entire post was dedicated to her making herself busy while other people are eating, and then the bad stealth/perception rolls were blamed on her skipping a day of food and her mind wandering... so she doesn't have one more pound to play with. Unless you means she's burning calories. :D
I've read the part where she was just sitting there scribbling while the others had breakfast... but I thought it was just flavour text, Mouse acting demure and all that :o so I didn't quite get the next one about her being on an empty stomach :(
Sorry. For what is worth, if Tiferet noticed she would certainly have shared.
A water skin for an alchemist's fire – deal?
Sure! I probably should have rolled bluff for that, like earlier when you did something similar (I realized after the scene changed, and well outside of the edit range :(). She was effectively using her journal as a way of hiding that she wasn't eating. She doesn't want to be a burden. :)
Remember, 'Mouse is being quiet right now cause she has a reason to not draw attention to herself.' :) That might make more sense, now. :)
Sure it does, in retrospect ;)
Yeah, hiding Tiferet's true intentions under a Bluff check was more of a way to actually draw attention to them by using DnD's built-in mechanics to simulate all those visual and contextual clues the written text sometimes has a hard time conveying (or are conveyed but lost on a perfunctory reading, like in this case :P ).
Obviously, the more we get to know each other's characters, the better we'll get at spotting those clues. Now I feel bad for having asked Mouse about her journal instead of sharing some food with her!
Luckily Tiferet isn't a paladin or she'd already have fallen.
Yup. Sleeping in the same camp as Eirikr with a Vow of Chastity. Shaaaame. Or was that monks?
While I did stumble over the formulation "while the others are eating" I did not conclude that you were not eating at all either... I suppose our characters don't eat there rations in one go but over the entire day.
But... does that mean you don't have a bedroll either?
I was going to say it should be a bluff check, but giving inspirational speeches has always seemed more like a diplomacy thing to me.
And you wouldn't have fallen yet. I like paladins that are creative with their pursuit of good.
Correct! That's why Mouse piled up her furs next to the fire and slept on them. :) Mouse is basically 'what you see is what you get.' And just think. I spent a -trait- just to be able to carry my journal. :|
I was going to say it should be a bluff check, but giving inspirational speeches has always seemed more like a diplomacy thing to me.
And you wouldn't have fallen yet. I like paladins that are creative with their pursuit of good.
Haha, yes I see how talking about gleefully dismembering fellow human beings could have been considered pushing one's paladinhood (unless it is a paladin of Torag or Ragathiel we're talking about – in which case it's probably part of your daily devotions).
Though my fear of falling rather stemmed from having approached a starving Inire only to ask her about her journal while eating my own breakfast instead of sharing! (the bluff check I was referring to is the one I believe Inire was also quoting, much earlier in the campaign – speaking with Fawfein I've really tried to avoid making references to things he didn't already believe to be true just so I could roll Diplomacy rather than Bluff :) , as well as going for the inspirational speech thing which seemed so much more in Tiferet's character).
Correct! That's why Mouse piled up her furs next to the fire and slept on them. :) Mouse is basically 'what you see is what you get.' And just think. I spent a -trait- just to be able to carry my journal. :|
I know the pain of making a DEX-based melee fighter work at low levels, and trust me I'm sympathetic to your plight ;)
I'm actually in a campaign with our GM , where he's playing a character that has had pretty much the same luck as Inire. They were also heavily dex-based (though, I think you wound up with much more balanced rolls, yeah?), and until recently, it was a real chore for the character to do much besides carry their own stuff. Me being the thoughtless person I cam, never offered to carry much... though my character was pretty much always full capacity from epic loots. :) Specifically, the character is a ranger of Iomedae that pretty much refused to leave anything behind... even dressing a bunch of Mongrelmen in cultist armor because it was glorious to do so. :)
Oh don't I know it. I was level 4 before I could carry more than my starting equipment, and that required a magic item to pull off. Dex based characters suffer at low levels, but shine once you get deeper into the game.
Eirikr can get food for a couple of people pretty easily, though he's unlikely to do so if he isn't asked.
Mmhmm. If we're still 'adventuring' tonight, Mouse will bring up teaching her how to forage as an excuse, I think. :) This one will contain a bluff. :)
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I believe I know the campaign you're talking about (Wrath of the Righteous right?) if not for the fact it constantly pops up at the top of the 'recent threads' box. Probably the highest posts-per-day PbP these forums have ever seen – congrats!
I've once read a couple of posts out of curiosity and I immediately understood how it manages to keep such a breakneck pace. Hope we can recreate some of that spirit here (given our strong start, I do believe the premises are strong, though :) )!
One thing that's pretty scary is that our discussion page is only 14 posts behind our gameplay thread, now. One of our players ran the numbers and we typically push out 70ish posts a day. The DM is kind of a monster. :)
I also hope to capture some of that, but Mouse has got to evolve beyond the tiny rabbit under the tree a bit, first. :)
Is it just Gavin, Haldor and Kail or are there other bandits nearby?
Specifically, how far is the lodge?
You haven't seen any more bandits.
And you're not sure exactly how far the lodge is. Vosi's grip of distance is a little odd considering he's six inches tall. You thought it would be another hour (give or take twenty minutes) before you got there though.
Oh! Sorry. I don't know why but I had taken for granted that we had already reached it and those were the bandits guarding its access.
Now that I re-read your posts I notice you never stated anything in that regard. D'oh.
So it's just three isolated bandits, acting as sentinels to scout if anyone's approaching? If that's the case, if we have a surprise round on them we can probably dispatch them before they even have a chance to react.
What are your opinions on charging from stealth? :o
No worries. But yes, these bandits are out in the woods a bit.
You can charge from stealth as long as you're close enough to make a charge action without revealing yourself. It would essentially be your surprise round.
If it's the six of us against the three of them, having already surrounded them and enjoying the benefits of a whole surprise round... very very positive ;)
(Depending on whether Tiferet can reach them in a 20 ft. movement, which is the maximum distance she can charge using a standard action).
EDIT: sorry yeah basically what the GM said :)
This really isn't meant to be that challenging of an encounter for any party that knows how to scout ahead.
You should be able to get close enough, but they'll get another perception check since you'll have to get rather close.
Nice. In this case, Tiferet's probably not going to push her luck, letting Inire, Nathara and Ashen approach to charging distance.
She'll probably stop 60 ft. from them, covering 20 ft. in the surprise round and 40 ft. as part of a charge.
What about a party that knows how to fumble around in the snow thinking they can scout ahead? :)
Or better yet, we can set up an ambush and use ghost sound and dancing lights to make them come to us.
Dancing lights to simulate a fey attack, and ghost sound to mimic a request for help from one of their companions.
What about a party that knows how to fumble around in the snow thinking they can scout ahead? :)
Ambushes can go both ways. ;)
Hrmm... I kind of overlooked Vosi's input. :/
Of course he may engage.
He's got a high enough fly speed to just shoot in from the air once the party charges. He doesn't have a lot of powers since he's just a sprite, but he'll be happy to help you take them down.
Sorry I'll try to get a post up been buried in school work today so I haven't had time to read everything,if I take too long go ahead and skip eve
Don't worry about it. I know exactly what it's like to be buried in homework. The party is setting up to surprise attack some bandits. When you have time, just say how you're setting up to attack. I'll bot you in combat after that if you'd like.
Really? :o
So this line
Thus, talking, singing, shouting, walking, marching, or running sounds can be created
means you can only create indistinct chattering sounds?
The Pathfinder rules are a constant source of discoveries!
(Also my introduction needs to be rewritten in its entirety)
EDIT: it seems the FAQ confirm this. Please disregard my actions then. I'll edit my post.
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Yup. There was an FAQ about it. It can't replicate real speech. :(
Not that it matters. For the most part, anything you would want to do with it, you could do without being intelligible, for the most part. :)
You can totally make it just go 'bar bar bar bar bar bar bar', which is apparently enough to fool the romans. :)
Eirikr, apparently: HEY GUYS WHAT ARE WE DOING WHERE ARE WE GOING
Let's just let Evelyn do her thing... she did not have time to react after all.
Absolutely.
I am a bit under time pressure, now. The shield spell I cast lasts one minute - 10 rounds. And I can't speak another for today. I am going to wait for a reaction, anyway.
The way I see it, as soon as they step into charging distance, we attack.
After that, I foresee this is going to be a very short fight :)
Sorry about two plans I didn't want to hold up anything in case I couldn't post
Don't worry about it. It's more my fault than anything. I have a busy afternoon and haven't had time to get the next post together. Since your plan seems popular, I'll get things started tonight once I get back from my last class.
How far away are Eirikr and Ashen from the bandits?
Around 60 feet, but you're not in a position where you have a clear path to charge since you weren't able to position yourself carefully enough.
Sorry I'm not battle mapping this one, but I somehow doubt it's going to last long enough to make it worth it.
Can Tiferet move 20 ft. as a move action, use a standard action, and then have a clear path to charge 40 ft. during her next round?
If not, she'll just double move this round and then move + attack the next.
(And that mithral breastplate hasn't gotten any closer in the meantime. Damn fey and their unwillingness to embrace a loot money-driven economy.)
P.S.: with Morgraine having put her regular round action under a spoiler, is it Inire's turn now?
Yes, she can get into range to charge next round.
This is Paizo's official stance about Raging Song and spellcasting.
The Skald himself can do it, those who accept the benefits of the song can't. The only redeeming feature is that allies can opt in or out at the beginning of every round, but it still completely anti-synergizes with Spell Combat (the official suggestion from that same thread is: just don't put him in a party with a Magus or a DEX-based fighter in it).
Yeah, Tiferet's the worst fit ever, a support character that actually ends up disrupting the other people's strengths. If I knew how the party would be shaped, I'd have rolled a bard :(
That is unfortunate. I don't want to just change that, because it does make sense, but I don't want you to feel like you're not contributing.
Extra Traits: Community Minded. :) If he'll let you take it, Nathara (and others) can opt into it for one round of no-casting to gain 3 rounds of the morale bonuses. Likewise, they don't need to take the AC penalties. It's... blatantly overpowered for a skald. And really good for an urban barbarian, who (if you can rage cycle) can just keep all three of his stats at +X.
I do prefer to keep the flavor of traits and that's from Rahadoum. Not really fitting for a religious character.
Agreed. Plus, it's incredibly broken. :P
There is that fact, yes.