| Nathara |
Why do I have to think of "Apocalypse Now!" and helicopters now? :D But I do have a CD set of "Der Ring des Nibelungen" here.
Might I suggest:
Blind Guardian - Valkyries
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
I'm partial to This sort, personally. :)
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
I have no idea what that means. :)
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
If you're referring to Nathara's question, I believe she's talking about
She gestures towards the broken crest. "May I see that? I would like to know whether there is magic, or residual magic in it."
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[dice=Knowledge (Arcana)]1d20+9
Detect the school of magic involved, DC 15 + spell level, or DC 15 + 1/ caster level for non spells.[dice=Spellcraft]1d20+8
Identify the properties of a magic item, DC 15 + item's caster level.
If not, apologies!
| Nathara |
I don't know, I feel like it'd be kind of cool, in a "the enemy of my enemy is someone I can bend to my interests" kind of way. Realistically, the best option for Asmodeus would be a stalemate, as it keeps his enemies busy fighting each other. As much as he likes having Iomedeae's attention focused elsewhere, a demon victory would likely be a far more undesirable scenario to him, as it would probably spell doom over the whole of Golarion, and I've always picked Asmodeus as a "I actually like the world, some of my best evilness took place in it!" kind of guy.
I missed that discussion: You must keep in mind that hell knights are not usually evil. Neither do they do the bidding of devils, even though their training involves destroying devils which were summoned for just that purpose. They gravitate strongly towards lawful neutral and they are not necessarily under the direct rule of Cheliax, let alone Asmodeus. The rule book clearly states that both evil and good hell knights are equally rare. Of course they are dispatched to represent the interests of Cheliax, but not in an immediate way, they first and foremost uphold the law and order - like the ones in Riddleport, basically a pirate town.
I stumbled over a mentioning of a Hell Knight in Wrath of the Righteous in a discussion.
One has to keep in mind that, even though Asmodeus influence may be great, Cheliax, House Thrune and Asmodeus are not one and the same.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
Quote:I don't know, I feel like it'd be kind of cool, in a "the enemy of my enemy is someone I can bend to my interests" kind of way. Realistically, the best option for Asmodeus would be a stalemate, as it keeps his enemies busy fighting each other. As much as he likes having Iomedeae's attention focused elsewhere, a demon victory would likely be a far more undesirable scenario to him, as it would probably spell doom over the whole of Golarion, and I've always picked Asmodeus as a "I actually like the world, some of my best evilness took place in it!" kind of guy.I missed that discussion: You must keep in mind that hell knights are not usually evil. Neither do they do the bidding of devils, even though their training involves destroying devils which were summoned for just that purpose. They gravitate strongly towards lawful neutral and they are not necessarily under the direct rule of Cheliax, let alone Asmodeus. The rule book clearly states that both evil and good hell knights are equally rare. Of course they are dispatched to represent the interests of Cheliax, but not in an immediate way, they first and foremost uphold the law and order - like the ones in Riddleport, basically a pirate town.
I stumbled over a mentioning of a Hell Knight in Wrath of the Righteous in a discussion.
One has to keep in mind that, even though Asmodeus influence may be great, Cheliax, House Thrune and Asmodeus are not one and the same.
Agreed. Indeed, I also expressed a similar stance just a few posts below ;)
The main point being that, despite their name, they're not really that tied to diabolism other than getting inspiration from Hell's hierarchy as a paragon of perfect Law. They're basically a bunch of very strict LN vigilantes with a few LG idealists and plenty of LE nasty types within their ranks. They're mostly looked upon with suspicion because of their ties with Cheliax rather than Asmodeus, and I easily see how such a thing would not be given that much weight in faraway Mendev (compared to, say, Andoran or Taldor).
Just as a heads up: I start a new job on Monday next week, so my posting time is probably going to be limited to evenings (GMT-6) and weekends from that point on.
Congrats!
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
:) I'll just go with hoping you enjoy it and that it pays enough. :p congratulations, if so.
| Eirikr Thundersblood |
Thanks. I am admittedly a little freaked out about it.
On another topic, since one of the options for change shape is useless to Eirikr since he already has a bite attack, I was wondering if he could maybe use it to make his bite attack primary instead of secondary, since it seems like it's pretty impossible to ever land a hit with it otherwise (it has a -7 malus, 5 from being secondary and 2 from being sickened). This also makes it make more sense for him to use change shape in front of the group as well.
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
When you use a polymorph effect, you take on all the aspects of the new form, and leave behind all the old. It only makes sense for you to gain the primary nom to me. :)
aaaand Change Shape for reference of why I say 'Polymorph'.
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
Also, no need to use spoilers unless you're just making a post out of turn. :)
Also, if the DM moves stuff around before my bedtime, I'll get that updated for Eirikr, in case his computer is still hateful. :)
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
Remember we have three vials of alchemist's fire that can be thrown against the sprites, should they prove particularly pesky to engage in melee (but that use of a command spell was particularly nice in that regard, Eve!).
Also, if you accept Tiferet's raging song, you're prevented from using INT, DEX and CHA-based skills. It's not clear about spellcasting though.
| Nathara |
Hm... Alright, no acrobatics... and I could not have made the Knowledge (Arcana) check.
Maybe I should have tried to help Tiferet and Morgraine to deal with the Tatzlwyrm... on the map it looked like you got enough folks there. I can still reach it with a single move action, as long as you leave me the space. Most of the damage I dealt this round will likely be absorbed by damage reduction. I shall use the alchemist's fire asap.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
Acrobatics, Intimidate, Fly and Ride are explicitly called out as exceptions... Basically, you enter HULK SMASH! mode (it's a sort of small-scale Barbarian rage).
I actually like your choice of going for the fey first, before they can gain altitude. As long as the Tatzlwyrm is grappling Morgraine, it has the grappled condition, which would make it quite vulnerable to our attacks.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
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That might have been one dead sprite if the dice gods didn't hate us. Still, the idea is very neat, AoO him to death. It's well worth another try IMHO, especially considering how lacking our ranged capabilities are.
Raging song anti-synergizes with casters, and even with anybody who is not a pure martial it is pretty situational. It's great for barbarians, who can use their own rage bonuses and aren't fatigued afterwards.
Let's hammer the tatzlwyrm before it can do further damage to Morgraine. The sprites are annoyances, but that drake is the real damage dealer.
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
Agreed. It was a great try.
Sadly, 1hp and one damage for 1 AC is something mouse will only take on occasion at this point. I might take it to game the wounds system, though. Which is a very neat use.
:( Sorry Tif.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
I know... With the other front-liners being a magus and a DEX-based rogue, it's best if you ignore the big screaming woman for now :)
She's probably, you know, crazy. Or whatever.
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
Hey, there's also the Oracle and wolf!
It's definitely worth it in a wound game, because we can keep the same AC sometimes, and use the song for a bit more damage and a bit more hit.. very gritty. Kind of cool.
I was thinking of making a Skald for this (totemic, using mouse totem.) But I couldn't do it when I couldn't be sure I'd have anyone who would ever opt into my rage. :(
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
Bonuses are going to increase with level, as well as the hps granted by the CON bonus. So it might get a bit more useful as we proceed.
I agree. If you're going for a support character, it makes sense to tailor it to the party she's going to be part of. Unfortunately, the nature of open recruitments makes it very difficult, if not outright impossible.
| Inire 'Mouse' Kashuld |
Mmhmm. I don't think I could do it with my face to dangerous to be honest. I locked into kineticist, and waited for everyone to pick what they wanted to play so I could fill the gaps... and I've changed elements three times. :p
We start this next week, though.
Mouse will have dex to damage at level three. But it'll still grow to be something more and more worth opting into.
Also, are we going to treat max-including-temporary as your max hp or just max, and temporary bolsters only current hp?
| Nathara |
Mouse does as Nathara says ...
Nathara... kind of... meant Tiferet. Her presence makes her sometimes forget about the others. (Well, I was hoping to surprise the fey with an unexpected move and corner her. I didn't realize it was already that high.)
I need to look into the cantrips which deal damage. In the Core Rule Book is only Ray of Frost, which is hardly helpful in this campaign, but I think there are others in Ultimate Magic. I can prepare ranged attack spells. Two of them, that is.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
^ that. Even now, throwing snowballs is essentially what the sprites have been doing.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
For what is worth, everyone under the influence of Tiferet's Inspired rage would have gained a +1 morale bonus to their Will saves... though I doubt it would have made any difference.
My bad for not having put it in my header.
(Also, in case she's allowed an AoO, she'd use her daily +2 bonus on her attack roll given by the Tactician trait).
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
So a roll of 9 + 2 + 0 (WIS) + 1 (Inspired Rage bonus) = 12 wasn't enough to save against the Prismatic Ray?
| The Faceless GM |
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Actually, that matches. Oops.
So yeah, Tiferet is still conscious. It's a bit late to edit, but she goes normally once it's her turn and raging song is still up.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
I've now duly reported her modifiers in the header, as I should have done when combat begun :(
Since once a nitpicker, forever a nitpicker :) ... was Tiferet warranted an AoO when Sprite 3 flew along her because of Eve's suggestion? Unless Eve said she intends to trap it. In that case, she would forfeit it and go for a grapple on her next turn.
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
I don't want to be a spoilsport, and since talking is a free action... I'll wait for her to drop by and clarify her intent :)
| Tiferet Odinsdottir |
One grappled fey, incoming (after Morgraine has had her chance to act).